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GettyRoad

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lol again with the 80’s and 90’s celebrities.

People do not give a single solitary shit what Wayne Gretzky thinks about politics.
A lot of people do, the guy is the greatest hockey player of all time.

Gretzky can move votes in the suburbs, especially with suburban white men, who dropped off in 2020, Gretzky can get them to the polls.

Who wouldn't want to be endorsed by a GOAT? If Michael Jordan endorsed Trump, Trump would make serious inroads in the Black male vote, especially in GA and NC.
 

fskimospy

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A lot of people do, the guy is the greatest hockey player of all time.

Gretzky can move votes in the suburbs, especially with suburban white men, who dropped off in 2020, Gretzky can get them to the polls.

Who wouldn't want to be endorsed by a GOAT? If Michael Jordan endorsed Trump, Trump would make serious inroads in the Black male vote, especially in GA and NC.
lol - no.
 

Roger Wilco

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A lot of people do, the guy is the greatest hockey player of all time.

Gretzky can move votes in the suburbs, especially with suburban white men, who dropped off in 2020, Gretzky can get them to the polls.

Who wouldn't want to be endorsed by a GOAT? If Michael Jordan endorsed Trump, Trump would make serious inroads in the Black male vote, especially in GA and NC.

Uh no. Gretzky is one of America’s most beloved LGBTQ Italian Americans. What the fuck are you talking about?
 
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Paratus

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Trump expected Taylor Swift to endorse him because he sees her like Carrie Underwood: White, blonde, Republican woman.

Swift is not, and that bothers him obviously.

Carrie Underwood could help him with white women in the burbs, and if he got Cal Ripken or Wayne Gretzky's endorsements, it would help as well, since Ripken and Gretzky are popular with suburban white men.
Gretzky? Hell no. Now Mario Lemieux.....
 
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nakedfrog

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A lot of people do, the guy is the greatest hockey player of all time.

Gretzky can move votes in the suburbs, especially with suburban white men, who dropped off in 2020, Gretzky can get them to the polls.

Who wouldn't want to be endorsed by a GOAT? If Michael Jordan endorsed Trump, Trump would make serious inroads in the Black male vote, especially in GA and NC.
Me every time Artem here posts:

 
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APU_Fusion

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TNotice we are no talking about:

robust economy including gdp, job market and inflation returning to normal (ahead of most of world), gas prices, stock market, infrastructure projects, russian enemy in quagmire and no chaos everyday communication from White House while Trump wants our nato allies attacked by Russian dictator who is committing war crimes
 
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Zorba

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A lot of people do, the guy is the greatest hockey player of all time.

Gretzky can move votes in the suburbs, especially with suburban white men, who dropped off in 2020, Gretzky can get them to the polls.

Who wouldn't want to be endorsed by a GOAT? If Michael Jordan endorsed Trump, Trump would make serious inroads in the Black male vote, especially in GA and NC.
Just like Kayne for blacks in 2020!
 
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GettyRoad

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Did he just say Jerry Jones has swag?

He has got to be a bot that last updated in 1997.
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For his age, he does....if Biden got this type of reaction wherever he went, he'd be leading by 10. Instead he is running neck and neck with a criminal.
 

Zorba

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For his age, he does....if Biden got this type of reaction wherever he went, he'd be leading by 10. Instead he is running neck and neck with a criminal.
"Wherever he went" that's at a fucking cowboys game, lol. I promise I can find pictures of 2 people trying to shake Biden's hand that aren't the literal definition of homers.
 

Jaskalas

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Obama was inspiring, he also wasn't on TV 24/7 for 8 years straight. Neither was W or Clinton. It's not normal for a president and especially a former president to get non-stop coverage.
And the only reason he is not still President, is term limits.
 

manly

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Sorry, gotta call bs on this. Trump's 2020 loss was the biggest incumbent loss in history. It was technically a fucking massacre for his campaign and the republican party as a whole.
I haven't looked up every incumbent loss in history, but 2020 isn't close to the worst incumbent loss ever:


@MrSquished admits he can be rough around the edges, but I find his heart to be in the right place. He and I are legitimately concerned about Biden's chances because his approval ratings are dismal. However I would say that admitting Biden's weaknesses isn't really productive: Biden is 81, and his Veep is Kamala Harris. I'd actually contend the latter is worse than the former; but Harris is only relevant because of Biden's age and people's general misconception that he can't serve out another term. If I was Biden, I'd rip the fucken bandage off and replace Harris with Cory Booker.

That aside, is Biden being over "handled" by his people? Arguably yes, since the Super Bowl interview with POTUS is basically a softball. Why turn down easy media opportunities when the campaign is only going to get more challenging? MrSquished is also right that there is a consistent messaging problem; that Biden's achievements aren't readily acknowledged by the electorate (or by the voters we care about, not cultist MAGAts). But this shit is far from easily solved; if it was then we wouldn't be having this conversation no matter how inept you think Democratic Party strategists are. Jim Carville won one big election, but lost several others; but he always talks a big game on TV like he knows exactly how to solve Dems problems.

Outside a few folks, there is no cult of defend Biden at all costs. Although some of us give the administration kudos for big legislative wins with the narrowest of margins in Congress, that doesn't mean he's the greatest President of our generation. I've said before that he was probably my 4th pick in the 2020 primaries. What we are really saying is that it's absolutely pointless AT THIS TIME to talk about how there are better candidates on the sidelines. He's the presumptive nominee, and right now the November election looks far too much like a coin flip for comfort.* But alas it's already February, and "you dance with the one you came with."

* Those who say polls this far out aren't predictive enough are right, but are also fooling themselves. Biden's approval ratings don't lie, and IF history is a guide, they must improve for him to win reelection.
 
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* Those who say polls this far out aren't predictive enough are right, but are also fooling themselves. Biden's approval ratings don't lie, and IF history is a guide, they must improve for him to win reelection.
The thing is, most of us that support Biden know his shortcomings. The chicken littles here make it sound like they are the only smart ones here and can see the whole picture. But you don’t primary the incumbent even if he’s a potato. Luckily his opponent is the green growth on a potato.

And polls haven’t predicted anything for the past decade. Also these polls in past year are bias. Nearly 60% polled are right leaning.

If everything is left as it is, he will win re-election because the orange monkey hasn’t gained any support since 2020. Unfortunately the 3rd party votes can’t be predicted.
 
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Fenixgoon

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The thing is, most of us that support Biden know his shortcomings. The chicken littles here make it sound like they are the only smart ones here and can see the whole picture. But you don’t primary the incumbent even if he’s a potato. Luckily his opponent is the green growth on a potato.

And polls haven’t predicted anything for the past decade. Also these polls in past year are bias. Nearly 60% polled are right leaning.

If everything is left as it is, he will win re-election because the orange monkey hasn’t gained any support since 2020. Unfortunately the 3rd party votes can’t be predicted.
I am hoping (kind of expecting) women in swing states to throw a giant "F You" to republicans for taking away their bodily autonomy
 

fskimospy

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The thing is, most of us that support Biden know his shortcomings. The chicken littles here make it sound like they are the only smart ones here and can see the whole picture. But you don’t primary the incumbent even if he’s a potato. Luckily his opponent is the green growth on a potato.

And polls haven’t predicted anything for the past decade. Also these polls in past year are bias. Nearly 60% polled are right leaning.

If everything is left as it is, he will win re-election because the orange monkey hasn’t gained any support since 2020. Unfortunately the 3rd party votes can’t be predicted.
Yes, this is all very simple and it’s baffling that it needs to be repeated. I’m sure there are people who would be stronger general election candidates than him. The problem is that’s irrelevant because nobody is going to beat Biden in the Democratic primary.

It’s always wishcasting where magically someone else gets chosen with all the details about how that would actually happen glossed over.
 

HomerJS

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A lot of people do, the guy is the greatest hockey player of all time.

Gretzky can move votes in the suburbs, especially with suburban white men, who dropped off in 2020, Gretzky can get them to the polls.

Who wouldn't want to be endorsed by a GOAT? If Michael Jordan endorsed Trump, Trump would make serious inroads in the Black male vote, especially in GA and NC.
If you are looking for influential celebrities for the right what about this guy? Since this is what Trump has turned politics into.

HULK-HOGAN.jpg
 

Amol S.

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The thing is, most of us that support Biden know his shortcomings. The chicken littles here make it sound like they are the only smart ones here and can see the whole picture. But you don’t primary the incumbent even if he’s a potato. Luckily his opponent is the green growth on a potato.

And polls haven’t predicted anything for the past decade. Also these polls in past year are bias. Nearly 60% polled are right leaning.

If everything is left as it is, he will win re-election because the orange monkey hasn’t gained any support since 2020. Unfortunately the 3rd party votes can’t be predicted.
True, Democrats can only hope that RFK Jr is going to be another Ross Perot. On the other hand, Republicans hope that RFK Jr is another Garry Johnson (the Libertarian candidate back in 2016).
 
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