Once again, a brave cop goes home tonight

[GarfieldtheCat]

Maybe there should be PSAs explaining that airsoft or other similar guns that resemble realistic weapons should not be treated in a threatening manner as they can be mistaken for a real weapon.

You can't expect a police officer or anyone else to place their lives in potential danger/life threatening situation by allowing a person to pull a weapon (real or not) out and having to wait to take an action. The hesitation maybe the difference between life of death of the police officer or other person who is potentially threatened by the weapon.

Maybe the police should learn how to handle these situations? As in not driving to within two feet of a kid, and executing him within two seconds?

You know, they could act like the cop that responded to the white man with a rifle. Would that be too hard?

Or is it too hard for a cop to bother dealing with black people?

 

[rudeguy]

Maybe the police should learn how to handle these situations? As in not driving to within two feet of a kid, and executing him within two seconds?

You know, they could act like the cop that responded to the white man with a rifle. Would that be too hard?

Or is it too hard for a cop to bother dealing with black people?

I really don't think its a black or white thing. Its a fear thing.

These cops are trained to live in fear from the very start. They are trained that its them vs the bad guys, no mention of good guys. They are trained to be pussies and live in fear every second of their life.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Maybe the police should learn how to handle these situations? As in not driving to within two feet of a kid, and executing him within two seconds?

You know, they could act like the cop that responded to the white man with a rifle. Would that be too hard?

Or is it too hard for a cop to bother dealing with black people?

Had it turned out the gun as real we wouldn't be discussing this case. None the less police will always treat all weapons including bb/pellet guns that look realistic as the real thing. I was taught that at 8 years old when I got my first pellet gun and the only thing that has changed in the last 48 years is the bb/pellet guns now look identical to real guns.

I'm sure if a white man had been brandishing a gun and went for his gun instead of raising his hands he would have been shot as well. None the less why waste a chance to throw in the race card for full effect, right?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I really don't think its a black or white thing. Its a fear thing.

These cops are trained to live in fear from the very start. They are trained that its them vs the bad guys, no mention of good guys. They are trained to be pussies and live in fear every second of their life.

So says the billybadass of the intarwebs.............LMAO!!!!!

 

[KlokWyze]

Couldn't imagine shooting a 12 year old and then having to live with myself. What piece of fucking shit. :thumbsdown:

 

[SMOGZINN]

Excuse me? I knew how to handle firearms when I was 8 years old including knowing that you never point one at anything you don't plan to shoot. I have taught my children the same thing and will more than likely teaching my grandchildren or re-enforcing what they've been taught on firearm safety as well.

According to the police they told him to raise his hands, he was shot as he started to go for and/or pull the gun from his waist which is exactly opposite of what they told him to do.

Sure, you knew how to handle a firearm, and if anyone ever let you do so unsupervised you still would have done stupid things with it. Because you were a kid. Kids do stupid things. They have poor judgement, because they don't have the life experience to make better judgements. Their brains are not done forming, they are simply incapable of thinking about consequences the same way an adult can.

Anyone that tells me that they were responsible enough to handle a real firearm unsupervised at the age of 12 is lying.

 

[rudeguy]

So says the billybadass of the intarwebs.............LMAO!!!!!

So rather than dispute my argument with facts, you resort to name calling.

Stay mature buddy!

 

[Londo_Jowo]

So rather than dispute my argument with facts, you resort to name calling.

Stay mature buddy!

There were no facts to refute, just your usual BillyBadAss of the intarweb BS.

 

[rudeguy]

There were no facts to refute, just your usual BillyBadAss of the intarweb BS.

They are trained to fear for their lives.

That is a fact.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

They are trained to fear for their lives.

That is a fact.

No, it not! Stop acting like your opinions are a fact.

 

[rudeguy]

No, it not! Stop acting like your opinions are a fact.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-winkler/ferguson-guns-america-police-fear_b_5688750.html

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebat...-for-the-police/what-do-police-fear-the-truth

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/23/u...in-police-shootings-reasonable-fear.html?_r=0

https://twitter.com/ac360/status/540334453441441792

See how this works? I post a fact and can prove its fact. You dispute facts simply because your head is stuck up your ass.

 

[JEDIYoda]

They are trained to fear for their lives.

That is a fact.

exactly -- They are trained what to say in the Academy --
I was in fear of my life...
I shot that person armed with a banana because I thought it was a gun.....
He lifted his shirt to show me a gun stuck in the elastic waistband of his underwear....he didn`t grab for it or anything but when I saw the gun, I shot him........(2 seconds after I jumped out of the squad car).......ummm OK!! ding,ding, another free pass for a policeman in fear of his life..lolol

 

[SMOGZINN]

exactly -- They are trained what to say in the Academy --
I was in fear of my life...
I shot that person armed with a banana because I thought it was a gun.....
He lifted his shirt to show me a gun stuck in the elastic waistband of his underwear....he didn`t grab for it or anything but when I saw the gun, I shot him........(2 seconds after I jumped out of the squad car).......ummm OK!! ding,ding, another free pass for a policeman in fear of his life..lolol

It's coming right for us!

 

[Londo_Jowo]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-winkler/ferguson-guns-america-police-fear_b_5688750.html

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebat...-for-the-police/what-do-police-fear-the-truth

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/23/u...in-police-shootings-reasonable-fear.html?_r=0

https://twitter.com/ac360/status/540334453441441792

See how this works? I post a fact and can prove its fact. You dispute facts simply because your head is stuck up your ass.

Wow, you found more opinion pieces that agree with you viewpoint.

404 Facts not found.

 

[iGas]

IMHO, the police department, the perps, and the police union should all be name in the lawsuit in this matter, because they are all in cahoot with each others to protect criminals and crimes of the men in blue.

 

[iGas]

Tamir Rice's mom: "I'm looking for a conviction"

On Thursday, the U.S. Justice Department released findings from a nearly two-year investigation of Cleveland police, which found its officers use excessive and unnecessary force far too often.

The report did not look into Tamir's death, but U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, while announcing the report's findings, said that the deaths of young blacks, including in New York City and Ferguson, Missouri, have raised urgent national questions about the sense of trust between police and communities.

It is funny that the cops call their criminal activities "excessive and unnecessary force" instead of murders, attempted murders, and aggravated assault.

 

[rudeguy]

Wow, you found more opinion pieces that agree with you viewpoint.

404 Facts not found.

And you found none.


Please post evidence of me being wrong or

STOP POSTING

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Poor baby can't stand when his opinion pieces are not accepted as fact. When you find some police training course information that backs your opinion let me know.

 

[rudeguy]

Poor baby can't stand when his opinion pieces are not accepted as fact. When you find some police training course information that backs your opinion let me know.

How about an actual cop saying it?
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=36160731&postcount=69

I'd love to disagree with you, but I can't. The video's they show us in training are horrific. Cop exits patrol car, walks 5 feet...killed by a sniper that was set up down the street after making a bogus call to 911. Cop pulls over old man, old man immediately exits car and shoots cops through the neck with a hunting rifle. Old man was delusional and didn't know what he was doing. Seen crying on the video after he realized what he has done.

It has a ton of law enforcement on edge with that crap. And they have shown it to us while we are working, which believes me gets my blood going and my mind racing. It gives us zero time to digest any of it and learn from it. What mistakes were made and what could have been done better? Can't answer that now, got a domestic to go to.

I try to distance myself from that junk and watch videos like that when I am in the right frame of mind. I wish some of my co-workers did the same.

Now STOP POSTING

 

[Londo_Jowo]

How about I get my two friends who are officers in the Houston area to join and post, will you accept their statements on what they're trained?

I bet not.

The police officer I know very well said they were taught to assess all threats, should the threat reach a level that it could place them in grave danger they can use force up to and including deadly force to neutralize the threat. They said that they were not taught to fear everything as you claimed.

Post a training course that backs your statement.

 

[rudeguy]

How about I get my two friends who are officers in the Houston area to join and post, will you accept their statements on what they're trained?

I bet not.

The police officer I know very well said they were taught to assess all threats, should the threat reach a level that it could place them in grave danger they can use force up to and including deadly force to neutralize the threat. They said that they were not taught to fear everything as you claimed.

Post a training course that backs your statement.

Please do.

You have posted no facts to back up your claim other than your idiotic word. You have proven yourself to be an ignorant moron who doesn't know when to admit he is wrong. Please STOP POSTING

 

[ivwshane]

How about I get my two friends who are officers in the Houston area to join and post, will you accept their statements on what they're trained?

I bet not.

The police officer I know very well said they were taught to assess all threats, should the threat reach a level that it could place them in grave danger they can use force up to and including deadly force to neutralize the threat. They said that they were not taught to fear everything as you claimed.

Post a training course that backs your statement.

And there it is folks! He's got cop friends! That explains why he bends over backwards to defend these people that would otherwise be called criminals had they been committed by any other citizen.

 

[rudeguy]

And there it is folks! He's got cop friends! That explains why he bends over backwards to defend these people that would otherwise be called criminals had they been committed by any other citizen.

He has no friends.

I bet they are 2 guys he saw once and now they are his "friends". I hope he gets them to join up and post. Just so Perk can check the IPs and see that its just him on 3 accounts.

 

[werepossum]

Had it turned out the gun as real we wouldn't be discussing this case. None the less police will always treat all weapons including bb/pellet guns that look realistic as the real thing. I was taught that at 8 years old when I got my first pellet gun and the only thing that has changed in the last 48 years is the bb/pellet guns now look identical to real guns.

I'm sure if a white man had been brandishing a gun and went for his gun instead of raising his hands he would have been shot as well. None the less why waste a chance to throw in the race card for full effect, right?

From the cops' point of view, a realistic-looking gun HAS to be considered a real gun. I have no problem with that. I just think they should exercise some restraint, back off and try not shooting somebody if nobody else has been shot. Especially if it's a kid.

I'd make a lousy cop because what happened to Julie Jacks would never happen to me - I'd shoot before I let someone get control of my weapon. But even I would not shoot a kid unless I absolutely had no choice or I was in mortal danger.

Sure, you knew how to handle a firearm, and if anyone ever let you do so unsupervised you still would have done stupid things with it. Because you were a kid. Kids do stupid things. They have poor judgement, because they don't have the life experience to make better judgements. Their brains are not done forming, they are simply incapable of thinking about consequences the same way an adult can.

Anyone that tells me that they were responsible enough to handle a real firearm unsupervised at the age of 12 is lying.

Um, you might want to stay out of the countryside then. I was hunting alone well before that, as was virtually everyone I know. Wouldn't have been allowed to take a pistol or revolver though, but it's damned hard to shoot yourself with a rifle or hunting shotgun, and I was trusted to not fire on anyone else from demonstrating restraint. That's not unusual.

 

[Orignal Earl]

I really don't think its a black or white thing. Its a fear thing.

These cops are trained to live in fear from the very start. They are trained that its them vs the bad guys, no mention of good guys. They are trained to be pussies and live in fear every second of their life.

You guys are misinterpreting what's going on.
The police are trained to always expect the unexpected.
They are not trained to be pussies and do not live in fear all their lives
Like seriously... do you think you have more balls then a cop who walks a beat everyday?