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SMOGZINN

Lifer
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Actually, have you watched the video? At no point does he point his rifle at anyone, it was always shouldered.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/17/joseph-houseman-open-carry_n_5501883.html

Can you say that about the person who was shot by the police when his hands went to his waist instead of raising them as ordered? No, there's video showing him point the gun at other people.

I would think that if he was shot when his his hands went to his waist then he never got the chance to point it at anyone. It was the pistol equivalent of being shouldered.
 

GarfieldtheCat

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Actually, have you watched the video? At no point does he point his rifle at anyone, it was always shouldered.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/17/joseph-houseman-open-carry_n_5501883.html

Can you say that about the person who was shot by the police when his hands went to his waist instead of raising them as ordered? No, there's video showing him point the gun at other people.

At no point did the 12 year old kid point a gun at a cop...he was executed in 2sec.

At no point did the man in the walmart point a gun at a cop...he was executed in 2sec.

The cops told him to drop the rifle, he refused. For the prev two cases, that is enough to execute a black man. Why not this guy?

The claim was made that the cops couldn't wait because there might have been people off camera that were in danger. There might have been people in danger in this case.

Why do cops talk to white men with guns for 40 min, and execute black people in 2 sec?
 

Londo_Jowo

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I wonder why these people weren't shot on sight in Dallas, Texas? OMG they were carrying mean looking weapons.

NMC_20gunclub2.jpg
 

rudeguy

Lifer
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Still waiting for your cop buddies to post.

Otherwise, anything you say is proven to be ignorant and a waste of internets.
 

rudeguy

Lifer
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More name calling now that you've been proven wrong.

Why do you keep posting in a thread where ever single thing you have has been proven wrong? Do you enjoy looking like a moron?
 

Londo_Jowo

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Why do you post in this forum, you get blasted by all sides because you're know it all and BillyBadass of the intarweb? I'll stop posting when and wherever I chose and never at your request as I know it makes you mad, I'm surprised you didn't use bolded letters to show you mean business.

None the less have a nice day BillyBadass of the intarwebs.
 

rudeguy

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Why do you post in this forum, you get blasted by all sides because you're know it all and BillyBadass of the intarweb? I'll stop posting when and wherever I chose and never at your request as I know it makes you mad, I'm surprised you didn't use bolded letters to show you mean business.

None the less have a nice day BillyBadass of the intarwebs.

Awwwe...did I hurt you feelings by proving you to be ignorant?

Sorry about that.
 

Londo_Jowo

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By the way, did you happen to find any Official Police Training material to back your claims or just opinion hit pieces and one poster that claims to be a Policeman? If not, please provide so to prove your claim is correct BillyBadass of the intarwebs.
 

rudeguy

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GarfieldtheCat

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I wonder why these people weren't shot on sight in Dallas, Texas? OMG they were carrying mean looking weapons.

In the NYPD choking thread, Merg asked "how long should the cops wait" before taking the guy down to arrest.

So lets take a look at a recent events:

Allegedly drunk (per 911 call) white man waving a real rifle: 40 minutes of police talking with politely, no threats from cops at all. Gets off with no charges even.

Unarmed black man selling cigarettes: 5 minutes of talking, the choke him to death.

Black man in Walmart minding his own business: shot multiple times and killed in 2 sec.

Black kid with no one around: drive to within 2 feet of him, shot multiple times and killed within 2 sec.

Hmmm.....I guess black people aren't worth much of a cops time from that. Just like they aren't worth a ham sandwich, as other people have commented.

1 white man: 40min of police time and no shots fired.
3 black men: 5min 4 sec of police time, and what, 20? shots fired?



Yup, no racial bias found here, no way. And don't forget that other kid that was killed for opening the door when police knocked. That would make it 4 black men in 5min and 6sec.
 

Linux23

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well at least we are quick kills. :p

do we win a prize for that? smdh!
 
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mizzou

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"Homicide" means a person was killed by another person. Such a ruling says nothing about whether the killing was or was not a criminal act.

In other words, this "new information" is worthless, as everyone already knew this was a homicide.

i know...i was a little confused why that news needed two days worth of cnn headlines. I dont think one oerson qyestioned the cayse of death was gettung shit
 

Iron Woode

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"go for the gun"? what the fuck? "go for the gun" why? He thought he was magic and was going to shoot 2 policemen with his toy gun?

And as for your own experience as a child with guns, aren't you special.
I see the troll is back and as clueless as ever.

maybe you should put down that crack pipe.
 

werepossum

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lol

I found this article the other day:
http://mentalfloss.com/article/60506/10-cautionary-tales-children-1831-book

Look at the things that kids, not teenagers, kids, did in the 1800s. Sure mortality rates were a bit higher back then but maybe it was a purer Darwinism than we practice today.
As late as the early twentieth century, scalding was a significant cause of child death. Makes you wonder WTF people were thinking.

Actually, have you watched the video? At no point does he point his rifle at anyone, it was always shouldered.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/17/joseph-houseman-open-carry_n_5501883.html

Can you say that about the person who was shot by the police when his hands went to his waist instead of raising them as ordered? No, there's video showing him point the gun at other people.
The problem I have isn't so much that they shot him when his hands went to his waist as that they put themselves in this position. Police cars DO have a reverse gear and a PA system, and from a hundred feet they would be in no real danger from an urban kid with a hand gun. Or at least they'd have time to duck if he draws it and doesn't turn it sideways. It's not like he could have spent the last four years shooting regularly in the park.

With the white guy, they decided up front that he probably wasn't dangerous; with the black kid, they had decided before they arrived that he probably was dangerous. That perception colored their reactions and how much personal risk they found acceptable. Hell, the kid could have been drunk too; they certainly had no time to evaluate that before they killed him. Yet we had just had another case where police with the best of intentions shot dead an innocent black man holding a toy gun, we've got cities being burned over police killing black men, and this clearly is a kid; surely that should combine to more than a two second buffer before firing.

well at least we are quick kills. :p

do we win a prize for that? smdh!
lol Well - you get to be carried by your friends and family . . .

I read once (ghetto emergency room doctor article) that if you're a bad person and you get shot in the head you'll probably live, whereas if you're an innocent bystander you'll probably die. Maybe this is the twenty-first century version of witch trials where they'd throw her in the pond and she floats she's a witch, but if she sinks she'll probably drown. "He's dead? Aw, crap."
 

dmcowen674

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ANyone over 50 remember the 1960's? More so 1964?
Vietnam war and all the Christmas boy toys were guns guns guns.
Every kid has a toy gun.
The toy to have that Christmas was a JOHNNY SEVEN.
Seven guns in one.
Thank God the police were not trigger happy back then.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Seven_OMA

http://johnnysevenoma.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPhZsauluXM

I had one.

I remember that it didn't come with that many of the plastic bullets so I came up with my own supply.

I used the red and white pieces from a Battleship game.

They would fire further than the larger pieces of plastic that came with the gun and they stung more too.

Me and the neighborhood kids played war in the streets all the time, hiding behind cars and garbage cans etc.

If this was today the Police would have gunned down the whole neighborhood.

There wouldn't be any kids left.

Very sad times the U.S. has become, very sad.
 

Linux23

Lifer
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whats even sadder is that most Americans are not outraged by this ever increasing over militarization of the police who were employed to protect and serve.

i guess if it doesn't affect you personally then it's okay. :p
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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whats even sadder is that most Americans are not outraged by this ever increasing over militarization of the police who were employed to protect and serve.

i guess if it doesn't affect you personally then it's okay. :p

That's pretty much it. The problem, of course, is that when it does affect them, it'll probably be too late.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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In the NYPD choking thread, Merg asked "how long should the cops wait" before taking the guy down to arrest.

So lets take a look at a recent events:

Allegedly drunk (per 911 call) white man waving a real rifle: 40 minutes of police talking with politely, no threats from cops at all. Gets off with no charges even.

Unarmed black man selling cigarettes: 5 minutes of talking, the choke him to death.

Black man in Walmart minding his own business: shot multiple times and killed in 2 sec.

Black kid with no one around: drive to within 2 feet of him, shot multiple times and killed within 2 sec.

Hmmm.....I guess black people aren't worth much of a cops time from that. Just like they aren't worth a ham sandwich, as other people have commented.

1 white man: 40min of police time and no shots fired.
3 black men: 5min 4 sec of police time, and what, 20? shots fired?



Yup, no racial bias found here, no way. And don't forget that other kid that was killed for opening the door when police knocked. That would make it 4 black men in 5min and 6sec.

you forgot one...

Black man pulled over for seat belt. Cop asks for license black man goes into car to get it, cop shoots him in 3 sec. He's lucky to be alive.
 

Linux23

Lifer
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no, he's lucky to have had it video taped as surely that cop would have lied to cover his ass about that shooting and that poor schmuck would be in jail with charges filed against him.