Once again, a brave cop goes home tonight

[rudeguy]

From the cops' point of view, a realistic-looking gun HAS to be considered a real gun. I have no problem with that. I just think they should exercise some restraint, back off and try not shooting somebody if nobody else has been shot. Especially if it's a kid.

I'd make a lousy cop because what happened to Julie Jacks would never happen to me - I'd shoot before I let someone get control of my weapon. But even I would not shoot a kid unless I absolutely had no choice or I was in mortal danger.


Um, you might want to stay out of the countryside then. I was hunting alone well before that, as was virtually everyone I know. Wouldn't have been allowed to take a pistol or revolver though, but it's damned hard to shoot yourself with a rifle or hunting shotgun, and I was trusted to not fire on anyone else from demonstrating restraint. That's not unusual.

I love the ignorance on this forum.

I grew up with guns. I knew gun safety before I knew what a hard on was. It was nothing for a bunch of us kids to go shooting with no adults. Guns are not dangerous, they only shoot when and where you tell them to.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Maybe there should be PSAs explaining that airsoft or other similar guns that resemble realistic weapons should not be treated in a threatening manner as they can be mistaken for a real weapon.

You can't expect a police officer or anyone else to place their lives in potential danger/life threatening situation by allowing a person to pull a weapon (real or not) out and having to wait to take an action. The hesitation maybe the difference between life of death of the police officer or other person who is potentially threatened by the weapon.

The point is, they didn't need to place their lives in danger. They own actions escalated the situation to the point where you really can't see a different outcome happening. 2 seconds.

You and a few others seem to be willfully ignoring all the signs of both a dysfunctional officer and a dysfunctional department. It seems to me that the systemic issues of the department and this officers own problems contributed far more to the outcome than any actions of the 12 year old.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Excuse me? I knew how to handle firearms when I was 8 years old including knowing that you never point one at anything you don't plan to shoot. I have taught my children the same thing and will more than likely teaching my grandchildren or re-enforcing what they've been taught on firearm safety as well.

According to the police they told him to raise his hands, he was shot as he started to go for and/or pull the gun from his waist which is exactly opposite of what they told him to do.

"go for the gun"? what the fuck? "go for the gun" why? He thought he was magic and was going to shoot 2 policemen with his toy gun?

And as for your own experience as a child with guns, aren't you special.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

"go for the gun"? what the fuck? "go for the gun" why? He thought he was magic and was going to shoot 2 policemen with his toy gun?

And as for your own experience as a child with guns, aren't you special.

Why didn't he put his hands over his head as he was ordered to do? Why did he place his hands at his waist where the gun was located? Maybe he had mental issues and was suicidal.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

And there it is folks! He's got cop friends! That explains why he bends over backwards to defend these people that would otherwise be called criminals had they been committed by any other citizen.

So what, you have liberal friends that blame cops for everything including the actions of criminals.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

He has no friends.

I bet they are 2 guys he saw once and now they are his "friends". I hope he gets them to join up and post. Just so Perk can check the IPs and see that its just him on 3 accounts.

So says BillyBadass of the intarweb. LMAO!!!

I bet we're all veterans and belong to the same veterans group as well as go to the same gun club to shoot.

 

[rudeguy]

So says BillyBadass of the intarweb. LMAO!!!

I bet we're all veterans and belong to the same veterans group as well as go to the same gun club to shoot.

So why aren't they posting yet?

Why are you still posting?

STOP POSTING

 

[Londo_Jowo]

So why aren't they posting yet?

Why are you still posting?

STOP POSTING

Why? It's so fun controlling your emotions BillyBadass.

 

[BeeBoop]

Stupid kid. Stupid parents.

 

[ivwshane]

Stupid kid. Stupid parents.

Stupid post. Stupid poster.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Had it turned out the gun as real we wouldn't be discussing this case. None the less police will always treat all weapons including bb/pellet guns that look realistic as the real thing. I was taught that at 8 years old when I got my first pellet gun and the only thing that has changed in the last 48 years is the bb/pellet guns now look identical to real guns.

I'm sure if a white man had been brandishing a gun and went for his gun instead of raising his hands he would have been shot as well. None the less why waste a chance to throw in the race card for full effect, right?

So explain why those cops talked to the guy with a real rifle, and when he refused to comply with an officer, wasn't outright tased, beaten, or shot?

Then explain to me why all these black people are getting executed within two seconds.

The race card is played because there is a clear difference in attitude between a white guy with a gun and black guy with a gun...excuse me, black thug with a gun. But nice try at denying it.

Would you care to explain why black people get shot in 2sec, while white men live? Or why the cops didn't come driving up within 2 feet to the white man, ordered him (not asked politely) to drop the gun, and shot him once he didn't immediately comply?

 

[BeeBoop]

Stupid post. Stupid poster.

Attack a poster because you don't like his opinion? I must have struck a nerve. D:



Unchaperoned kid with fake gun pointing it at strangers = Stupid parents and Stupid kid. Refer to picture below. Please, attack me some more so I know how much your feelings have been hurt. lol

 

[BeeBoop]

 

[Bitek]

Why didn't he put his hands over his head as he was ordered to do? Why did he place his hands at his waist where the gun was located? Maybe he had mental issues and was suicidal.

So the 12yo now needs to be mentally deranged and suicidal for your narrative to work?

Or it could be he's a 12 yo kid, and kids usually try to hide things when caught in trouble, so flying up in a patrol car, driving on the grass, cops shouting and guns drawn, probably scared the shit out of the kid, and he was looking to either hide it or give it to them in a complete panic.

We'll never really know, because they shot his guts out before even he had a chance to speak.

Only in police work could gross incompetence leading to a child's death be considered a legitimate defense.

 

[ivwshane]

Attack a poster because you don't like his opinion? I must have struck a nerve. D:



Unchaperoned kid with fake gun pointing it at strangers = Stupid parents and Stupid kid. Refer to picture below. Please, attack me some more so I know how much your feelings have been hurt. lol

No, I attacked you because you are stupid as was your post. While you were victim blaming you forgot to blame the ones that were acting irresponsibly, you know, the cops. Or do you think it's normal or even smart for police to answer a call about a man with a gun by driving right up to the guy with the car door opening right in front on the suspect? Sure, no responsibility in the cops part at all. I'm sure he won't be reprimanded either for his prudent actions/s

 

[Linux23]

He has no friends.

I bet they are 2 guys he saw once and now they are his "friends". I hope he gets them to join up and post. Just so Perk can check the IPs and see that its just him on 3 accounts.

it's just one of his multiple personalities. that's all. i bet one of his other personalities is a medical examiner. and the other one a prosecutor.

 

[Linux23]

Why didn't he put his hands over his head as he was ordered to do? Why did he place his hands at his waist where the gun was located? Maybe he had mental issues and was suicidal.

so the job of a policeman is to shoot people with mental disorders? you are one fucked up individual.

 

[BeeBoop]

No, I attacked you because you are stupid as was your post. While you were victim blaming you forgot to blame the ones that were acting irresponsibly, you know, the cops. Or do you think it's normal or even smart for police to answer a call about a man with a gun by driving right up to the guy with the car door opening right in front on the suspect? Sure, no responsibility in the cops part at all. I'm sure he won't be reprimanded either for his prudent actions/s

I sure did blame the kid and the parents. Does that make you mad? What you going to do about it? Cry yourself to sleep? lol. Guess what, I'm going to do it again.

Kid = Stupid
Parents = Stupid


Cop shot and killed the kid because the kid and parents are idiots. Have fun waiting and crying for a trial that will never come. No Justice, No Peace! I'm going to sleep well tonight and the next few days. What about you?


Edit:
I only wish that the camera footage was clear so that the dumb kid would go down in internet history as a meme like the pictures below. Kid was stupid and earns the Darwin award.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Another instance of a black kid executed pretty much immediately.

Link

he police had received a 911 call about "armed men with guns" going into an abandoned home. The local sheriff said Cameron came to the door with a gun in his hand, but that was later changed to say a BB gun was found "in close proximity" to his body. The teens say the BB gun was on the table.

Cameron was alive for at least 45 minutes, according to the family's lawyer. But the police offered no medical assistance. The investigation is ongoing, but two months on, the four other boys in the house say they still haven't been interviewed.

So he had a gun...no wait, he didn't, cops changed their story to a gun was close by. Hmmmm. Guess they can't get their coverup story straight.

So just another 2sec execution by police again I guess. And why wasn't he treated after being shot?

Yup, just another good kill by the cops right? Nothing to see here, no innocent kid killed by the cops yet again.

 

[werepossum]

Stupid kid. Stupid parents.

"Stupid kid" is redundant. Most of us try hard to keep them alive thinking they'll grow out of it.

 

[rudeguy]

"Stupid kid" is redundant. Most of us try hard to keep them alive thinking they'll grow out of it.

lol

I found this article the other day:
http://mentalfloss.com/article/60506/10-cautionary-tales-children-1831-book

Look at the things that kids, not teenagers, kids, did in the 1800s. Sure mortality rates were a bit higher back then but maybe it was a purer Darwinism than we practice today.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

So explain why those cops talked to the guy with a real rifle, and when he refused to comply with an officer, wasn't outright tased, beaten, or shot?

Then explain to me why all these black people are getting executed within two seconds.

The race card is played because there is a clear difference in attitude between a white guy with a gun and black guy with a gun...excuse me, black thug with a gun. But nice try at denying it.

Would you care to explain why black people get shot in 2sec, while white men live? Or why the cops didn't come driving up within 2 feet to the white man, ordered him (not asked politely) to drop the gun, and shot him once he didn't immediately comply?

Still waiting on Merg or Londo Jowo to explain how white men get a 40 min talking too, while black men are shot in 2 seconds.

You all have claimed the need to protect others, and how people have to obey cops instructions. So when a white man with a real rifle isn't following police commands, and he is waving a rifle which could endanger others, why wasn't he shot right away like the black men?

Seems like some people here are trying to forget about these inconvenient facts that shoot their theories down.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Keep on waiting, if you want to know why talk to the police involved.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Keep on waiting, if you want to know why talk to the police involved.

Ah yes....I tried to defend killing black people, but this case clearly shows that I am racist and apply different standards to white and black people. So I will just ignore it and refuse to admit it happened.

Well, at least you are honest about admitting your discrimination. Good job.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Actually, have you watched the video? At no point does he point his rifle at anyone, it was always shouldered.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/17/joseph-houseman-open-carry_n_5501883.html

Can you say that about the person who was shot by the police when his hands went to his waist instead of raising them as ordered? No, there's video showing him point the gun at other people.