**OFFICIAL** AT Battlefield 3 FAQ and News Thread

[Childs]

Now that BF3 is available on Origin with Premium included for $60 (http://store.origin.com/store/ea/en_US/pd/productID.255751200), what are the chances that EA will drop the price of the Premium membership from $50? Assuming the game is worth $30 list, I'd say Premium shouldn't cost anything more than $40.

In fact, my guess is that after each DLC is released, Premium will go down in price. Or at least it should. The value of previously-released map packs drops as players move on to other map packs.

Its on sale for under $40 now. This should drop in price with every release, because you need people playing the dlc to be worth it. Less and less people will play old DLC with new DLC releases.

 

[orbster556]

Recently I've been playing a bunch of BF3 again, although I have been mostly sticking to infantry-only TDM matches as I find it frustrating to pug Conquest games b/c it is usually difficult to find teammates who are willing to work together as squad (which, coincidentally, was the reason I took a 2-3 month break from the game back in February).

If anyone is a good MBT/APC driver, I like taking the gun/repairing; for 3-4 months after the game's release I was lucky enough to gun for the guy who, at the time, was the #1 ranked vehicle player (he's now only top-200 as he also took a break from the game). I'm also not terrible as a driver but I like gunning/repairing and would rather be part of a winning combo than take the MBT/APC away from someone more skilled than myself.

I reckon with the new expansion pack's emphasis on armored combat, I'll enjoy it a lot more if I play with a few people who know what they are doing and willing to work together.

Anyway, Origin ID is Karaya_One (although I have yet to play with anyone from AT, I have added a few AT members to my friends list). BF3 stats page: http://bf3stats.com/stats_pc/Karaya_One

Also, as I haven't really done much with vehicles since February or March, what's the optimal load-out for tanks? I only ask because I thought I read somewhere -- perhaps even in various posts in this thread -- that tanks have been nerfed or Javs buffed, or perhaps both. When I would drive, I would use Reactive, Thermal and the light-machine gun; is this still viable or do you need smoke now?

Thanks, in advance, for any tips you have regarding my question and I hope to be playing with some of you all in the near future.

Regards,

 

[sigurros81]

There are cranes, hills, buildings in the direct area where the control points are. The 800 meters between those points are empty.

The cluster of buildings are next to 3 points that are each 75 meters away from each other.

Sniping is also mostly inconsequential. I, as an engineer, could hit far targets better than snipers with my launcher and yet I was actually useful to the team.

If snipers were inconsequential in BF2 of all places, with 20 second respawn periods and squad leader only respawns. Why do they matter at all in BF3 where half the players have defibs, you can spawn on anyone, which means that killing spawn leaders means nothing, and you respawn in 3 seconds.



Having a high KDA and actually being useful are completely different things. In BF3, dying has just as much as an impact as dying in COD, very little. You respawn so fast and so easily near the action that snipe kills mean very little because it doesn't have the power to actually stop pushes. In BF2, you kill squad leader and medic, you've effectively throttled the push, in BF3 none of that actually exists.

Dying to snipers in BF2 is aggravating because you're out for 20 seconds. That's really the only reason they were useful, and you had to be GOOD as a sniper because getting headshots in BF2 was pretty damn hard in a regular basis. In bf3, you die, you can more or less respawn twice on the point and contest it while the enemy is capping. "I died to sniper? Damn" Proceed to respawn 5 seconds later, kill capper, and then hide, preventing sniper from doing anything and wasting the next 6 minutes of his life as he looks for you. So useful.

And getting high sniper kills in BF3 is already a function of the fact that everything is so clustered together, enemy players are pretty densely packed, players respawn so quickly, and snipers are simply much easier to use than in BF2.

I don't think the sniper class itself is worthless but there are a lot of shitty worthless players that play snipers. Once in a while, when I'm teamed with a good sniper that plays his role properly, it's quite a fun experience. You sort of have a point with KDR as a sniper. A high KDR as a sniper is typical, as they all hang far back and snipe, with little deaths to their count.

 

[moonbogg]

I don't think the sniper class itself is worthless but there are a lot of shitty worthless players that play snipers. Once in a while, when I'm teamed with a good sniper that plays his role properly, it's quite a fun experience. You sort of have a point with KDR as a sniper. A high KDR as a sniper is typical, as they all hang far back and snipe, with little deaths to their count.

High KDR is not typical of snipers, or any class for that matter. It is typical to skilled players, period. Just look at how many snipers have terrible KDR. I played with Xpandas and Arkaign, and they don't usually snipe much at all, if ever, and their KDR's have been better than my own in some games we played. They Tank and Fly and they kick ass doing it with very high KDR that I have a hard time competing with often. So, high KDR is a result of skill and not class. Play against me as a sniper and see how high your KDR goes. =)

EDIT: There are other good players I have played with from this forum as well. There is talent here and we should make a clan or something.

 

[WiseUp216]

Recently I've been playing a bunch of BF3 again, although I have been mostly sticking to infantry-only TDM matches as I find it frustrating to pug Conquest games b/c it is usually difficult to find teammates who are willing to work together as squad (which, coincidentally, was the reason I took a 2-3 month break from the game back in February).

If anyone is a good MBT/APC driver, I like taking the gun/repairing; for 3-4 months after the game's release I was lucky enough to gun for the guy who, at the time, was the #1 ranked vehicle player (he's now only top-200 as he also took a break from the game). I'm also not terrible as a driver but I like gunning/repairing and would rather be part of a winning combo than take the MBT/APC away from someone more skilled than myself.

I reckon with the new expansion pack's emphasis on armored combat, I'll enjoy it a lot more if I play with a few people who know what they are doing and willing to work together.

Anyway, Origin ID is Karaya_One (although I have yet to play with anyone from AT, I have added a few AT members to my friends list). BF3 stats page: http://bf3stats.com/stats_pc/Karaya_One

Also, as I haven't really done much with vehicles since February or March, what's the optimal load-out for tanks? I only ask because I thought I read somewhere -- perhaps even in various posts in this thread -- that tanks have been nerfed or Javs buffed, or perhaps both. When I would drive, I would use Reactive, Thermal and the light-machine gun; is this still viable or do you need smoke now?

Thanks, in advance, for any tips you have regarding my question and I hope to be playing with some of you all in the near future.

Regards,

Sounds like someone I wouldn't mind playing with. I haven't played much lately but I'll be playing AK quite a bit. Driving tanks is definitely one of my stronger abilities.

Add me on Battlelog: TimeToWiseUp

 

[DeadFred]

A skilled sniper can virtually hold a flag all on his own, this is especially true on Conquest Domination. The Recon's Spawn Beacon, SOFLAM, TUGS and MAV are essential team tools. Nik just likes to come in here and rant that BF3 is not BF2, as if any of us care.

 

[sigurros81]

High KDR is not typical of snipers, or any class for that matter. It is typical to skilled players, period. Just look at how many snipers have terrible KDR. I played with Xpandas and Arkaign, and they don't usually snipe much at all, if ever, and their KDR's have been better than my own in some games we played. They Tank and Fly and they kick ass doing it with very high KDR that I have a hard time competing with often. So, high KDR is a result of skill and not class. Play against me as a sniper and see how high your KDR goes. =)

I'm sure skill is involved for a high KDR, however generally it's easier to get a higher KDR as a sniper than other classes. Makes sense when a sniper sits in the back picking away at targets that for the most part can't really do much about being sniped by someone across the map except for jumping around like bunnies.

You can argue "but i do this" or "but I do that" and I'm sure you're a good sniper but I'm talking about the general population as a whole. Point is, getting a higher KDR as a medic that plays his role properly is more noteworthy than as a sniper who also plays his role properly, for example.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Hey Nik, we should play sometime. I'll be on tonight around 9pm pacific time. You can't make me emotional by criticizing snipers, because I play enough to know my contribution to the team. I'd like to see if your comments have any teeth to them however. Friend "moonbogg" in origin and we'll get it on. Make sure you are on my team...

If you can go earlier sure. 9 pm pacific is 12 am eastern. 8pm pacfic would work better for me.

 

[moonbogg]

I'm sure skill is involved for a high KDR, however generally it's easier to get a higher KDR as a sniper than other classes. Makes sense when a sniper sits in the back picking away at targets that for the most part can't really do much about being sniped by someone across the map except for jumping around like bunnies.

You can argue "but i do this" or "but I do that" and I'm sure you're a good sniper but I'm talking about the general population as a whole. Point is, getting a higher KDR as a medic that plays his role properly is more noteworthy than as a sniper who also plays his role properly, for example.

I really don't know about that to be truly honest. I have seen some obscene KDRs from people that never touch a sniper rifle. I'm being honest when I say a skilled player is what it takes and snipers don't do better in that regard. A good player in close quarters is mowing people down left and right. They are in the action up close and get more chances to kill. A sniper, if far away, has to wait for opportunities. They have less chances if perched somewhere. I'd like to agree with you for the sake of gaming brotherhood and comradery or something, but I can't.

 

[Destiny]

Snipers, worthless??? Have you looked at Moonbog's stats?

Nik, you are hopeless.... SMH

If it gets heated and he see's you ground pounding or need help to catch objectives he'll help - I know because I got him killed a few times when he jumped in my chopter/tank and he flies jets too...LOL... but there are times we got rocked and I don't blame him for just sniping when everyone else in our team don't do anything....

 

[Destiny]

I'm sure skill is involved for a high KDR, however generally it's easier to get a higher KDR as a sniper than other classes.

I get obscene KDR as an Assualt or Support, but that often gets negated in other rounds because I would get bad KDR due to my style of aggressive play. I do what I have to help my team win...:hmm:

 

[Childs]

Hey Nik, we should play sometime. I'll be on tonight around 9pm pacific time. You can't make me emotional by criticizing snipers, because I play enough to know my contribution to the team. I'd like to see if your comments have any teeth to them however. Friend "moonbogg" in origin and we'll get it on. Make sure you are on my team...

I wouldn't mind getting in on some of this action. See what all this moonbogg talk is all about! :biggrin: I gotta get some of the rust off for the next DLC anyways. Expect invites!

 

[moonbogg]

If it gets heated and he see's you ground pounding or need help to catch objectives he'll help - I know because I got him killed a few times when he jumped in my chopter/tank and he flies jets too...LOL... but there are times we got rocked and I don't blame him for just sniping when everyone else in our team don't do anything....

Thats a good benefit of sniping. Like you said, sometimes we just get slaughtered and its fun to at least cause some frustration from far away when you can't do much else or when it is actually pointless. If there is no teamwork or your team is out classed hard, then its time to focus on your own KDR and have as much fun as you can IMO.

 

[Destiny]

A skilled sniper can virtually hold a flag all on his own, this is especially true on Conquest Domination. The Recon's Spawn Beacon, SOFLAM, TUGS and MAV are essential team tools. Nik just likes to come in here and rant that BF3 is not BF2, as if any of us care.

There was this one instance I jumped into a map with Moonbogg and panda - for a good hour I couldn't find them (we were on different squads) but I see them both racking up kills and having a massive KDR... near the end I find Moonbogg holding one of the flags(E) by himself and panda running all over the place doing what he does...

 

[NikolaeVarius]

A skilled sniper can virtually hold a flag all on his own, this is especially true on Conquest Domination. The Recon's Spawn Beacon, SOFLAM, TUGS and MAV are essential team tools. Nik just likes to come in here and rant that BF3 is not BF2, as if any of us care.

And you refuse to see the reasons why I can barely bring myself to play BF3 anymore. There is such a clear difference in map quality. its quite obvious when you look at the maps. Bf3 maps are simply boring.

Look at the sheer difference in how the map is laid out.

 

[Arkaign]

Recently I've been playing a bunch of BF3 again, although I have been mostly sticking to infantry-only TDM matches as I find it frustrating to pug Conquest games b/c it is usually difficult to find teammates who are willing to work together as squad (which, coincidentally, was the reason I took a 2-3 month break from the game back in February).

If anyone is a good MBT/APC driver, I like taking the gun/repairing; for 3-4 months after the game's release I was lucky enough to gun for the guy who, at the time, was the #1 ranked vehicle player (he's now only top-200 as he also took a break from the game). I'm also not terrible as a driver but I like gunning/repairing and would rather be part of a winning combo than take the MBT/APC away from someone more skilled than myself.

I reckon with the new expansion pack's emphasis on armored combat, I'll enjoy it a lot more if I play with a few people who know what they are doing and willing to work together.

Anyway, Origin ID is Karaya_One (although I have yet to play with anyone from AT, I have added a few AT members to my friends list). BF3 stats page: http://bf3stats.com/stats_pc/Karaya_One

Also, as I haven't really done much with vehicles since February or March, what's the optimal load-out for tanks? I only ask because I thought I read somewhere -- perhaps even in various posts in this thread -- that tanks have been nerfed or Javs buffed, or perhaps both. When I would drive, I would use Reactive, Thermal and the light-machine gun; is this still viable or do you need smoke now?

Thanks, in advance, for any tips you have regarding my question and I hope to be playing with some of you all in the near future.

Regards,

If you're soloing the tank without anyone decent to gun for you :

Map with infantry and you're trying to cap flags : Prox Scan, Thermal, LMG or SMG

Map with mostly vehicles and you're not getting C4'ed : Reactive, Thermal, LMG or SMG

You have a gunner w/Prox and 3rd seat unlock : Reactive, Thermal, Guided Missile

FOR GUNNERS :

If you see an enemy tank, or anything for that matter : SPOT IT (Q). If you see a tank, don't plug away at with the .50, that's useless. If you're in the shit, and lots of enemy infantry around, stay in the .50 and take care of them. If your tank is in a 1v1 standup with an enemy tank, turn your turrent the other way, hop out, and repair from the opposite side until the tank is popped. If your driver is a moron and drives off while you're fixing him, don't get back in his tank. If you are capping a flag such as warehouses on Firestorm, and enemy inf is hiding on the roof or in a part of the building that the tank is having a hard time getting at, don't run off far from the tank and try to shoot it out, just pop out, toss a nade where you know it will force them to move, and pop back in.

FOR DRIVERS :

If you're trying to take a flag that has a shitton of infantry defending it, and there is another flag you can cap, just skip it and move on. Once you have all the other flags, come back in. Not worth wasting time if you're sitting in the tank and the guys are all hiding in places you can't shoot (eg; like the Warehouses in Firestorm as previously mentioned). You're more valuable to the team when you're popping tanks/AA and capping flags than sitting on your hands waiting for campers to pop out.

 

[QuantumPion]

And you refuse to see the reasons why I can barely bring myself to play BF3 anymore. There is such a clear difference in map quality. its quite obvious when you look at the maps. Bf3 maps are simply boring.

Look at the sheer difference in how the map is laid out.

Why do you continue to troll this thread. You've been bitching about how shitty BF3 is for 8 months now. If it's so shitty shouldn't you have moved on by now?

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Why do you continue to troll this thread. You've been bitching about how shitty BF3 is for 8 months now. If it's so shitty shouldn't you have moved on by now?

In the hopes by continuously pointing out flaws and failures in the direction DICE is going, we may hopefully get a good BF2 sequel.

 

[Childs]

In the hopes by continuously pointing out flaws and failures in the direction DICE is going, we may hopefully get a good BF2 sequel.

It might be more effective to do it on the battlelog forums. I don't think this thread has any influence over Dice and EA.

 

[Capt Caveman]

In the hopes by continuously pointing out flaws and failures in the direction DICE is going, we may hopefully get a good BF2 sequel.

Then you're wasting your trolling abilities here. B/c if you were serious, you wouldn't be posting here but where they actually read and ask for feedback.

 

[DeadFred]

And you refuse to see the reasons why I can barely bring myself to play BF3 anymore. There is such a clear difference in map quality. its quite obvious when you look at the maps. Bf3 maps are simply boring.

Look at the sheer difference in how the map is laid out.

Im perfectly aware that you despise BF3 and Im aware of your reasoning's why. However there's not a thing I nor anyone else here for that matter can do about it, so why continue to post the same sad story over and over in here for the obvious reasons others have already mentioned above? Im sure you would find a more favorable audience over at the mordorbf3/planetside2 fanboi site or whatever its called now.

 

[Zargon]

News flash guy nik hates bf3 and snipers!!!

Bagging maps hes never even seen yet as uninteresting. Already decided he hates them

Tapatalking on my pos thunderbolt. Sry for teh typos!

 

[DeadFred]

LOL

Changing the subject.............

My Battlelog has been screwed since the last update. I can see people log in and start playing on Origin but Battlelog doesnt even show them as being online. Anyone else notice this?

And is there any way to get my old Battlefeed back on Battlelog? Im not digging this new setup, it seems to be only showing a very few of my friends accomplishments.

 

[DeadFred]

Ok I just read that we have to manually share accomplishments now.Wow thats lame, I guess no one has seen anything from me either. LOL

The not being able to see friends online thing........didnt see anything about that on the battlelog forums. :thumbsdown:

 

[Canbacon]

For the new battlelog, you need to manually set specific events to go into the public feed. The other times, the person will need to go directly into your own page. Very annoying, but I guess it curbs the spamming if you have a very active friends list.


Edit: Grrrrr, you had to post just as I was writing my post