*** Official ASUS P4C800/Deluxe (875P) Thread ***

[Xeon]

Originally posted by: ItsMillerTime
computer,

Yes, it was me that thought something was wrong with the p4p. I was just refering to the i865 chip by MCH (Main Controller Hub). I'll take the heatsink off and check the mating surfaces. I'm guessing that poor heat transfer around the "Northbridge" is causing the high mobo temps. Just a hunch.

But if that's not it, then any ideas on a good reason for RMA besides random reboots?

Why would you need any more of a reason? It's reason enough.

 

[computer]

Originally posted by: ItsMillerTime
computer,

Yes, it was me that thought something was wrong with the p4p. I was just refering to the i865 chip by MCH (Main Controller Hub). I'll take the heatsink off and check the mating surfaces. I'm guessing that poor heat transfer around the "Northbridge" is causing the high mobo temps. Just a hunch.

But if that's not it, then any ideas on a good reason for RMA besides random reboots?

That's usually called the NB, or Northbridge chip. Remember, if the HS is getting hot there's no sense in removing it unless you're going to replace it with a larger one. Just adding a fan should suffice unless there's something wrong with it. I doubt random reboots will work for a mobo RMA since they are usually not the cause of that. You may want to use "overheating" for RMA.

 

[Nuker43]

ok i am dying over here.

I tried to set up a raid0 and this is the first time im doing this so im a raid newb..

Someone has to be using a raid set up and know how to set one up.

In the fastbuild program it only sees one drive yet i have 2 sata harddrives set up in raid1 and raid 2 slot in the motherboard..

what am i doing wrong? It also takes FOREVER to boot now and for the IDE scan to finish.

I am about to go crazy.

please help

thanks.

 

[computer]

Nuker43, just thought I'd let you know that I'm not ignoring your question, I just can't answer it since I haven't done RAID yet on this mobo.

 

[DaveR]

...and I will be doing it in about 10 minutes. As soon as I put these 2 drives on the Promise controller.

I do think that the drives need to be empty to start raid0 isn't that true.

Originally posted by: computer
Nuker43, just thought I'd let you know that I'm not ignoring your question, I just can't answer it since I haven't done RAID yet on this mobo.

 

[Xeon]

Originally posted by: DaveR
...and I will be doing it in about 10 minutes. As soon as I put these 2 drives on the Promise controller.

I do think that the drives need to be empty to start raid0 isn't that true.

Originally posted by: computer
Nuker43, just thought I'd let you know that I'm not ignoring your question, I just can't answer it since I haven't done RAID yet on this mobo.

No but they will get wiped.

 

[DaveR]

Should I use a 64k stripe size?

 

[Nuker43]

Do we have to use fastbuild or can we just use windows xp to set up a raid?

I don't understand.... am i missing a jumper setting? the fastbuild bios program only sees one drive.....

 

[Nuker43]

OK screw RAID0

I CAN"T BELIEVE THIS.. i didn't even set up a real raid0 yet... and the harddrive is already dead.

When i set up the raid0 it only saw 1 drive so i hit save anyway and it made a raid array... well i deleted the array to try agian to get both disks in it and bam the drive won't even boot up alone now.

what the hell this isn't worth it.

 

[DaveR]

Sorry, Nuker43. Mine came up showing as two drives. If one of your drives died (are you sure) then I am sure it has nothing to do with raid.

After the raid is set up, then I am going to do an fdisk like thing but use the Maxtor utility.

Are you sure you just don't have a bad cable?

I am just running memtest now as this is new memory...PC4200!

Originally posted by: Nuker43
OK screw RAID0

I CAN"T BELIEVE THIS.. i didn't even set up a real raid0 yet... and the harddrive is already dead.

When i set up the raid0 it only saw 1 drive so i hit save anyway and it made a raid array... well i deleted the array to try agian to get both disks in it and bam the drive won't even boot up alone now.

what the hell this isn't worth it.

 

[hpfanatic]

Originally posted by: Xeon

Originally posted by: hpfanatic
I didn't search this whole thread on this but has anyone had trouble with the LAN with this board? I have mine connected to my router, and a few times a day it stops working. I go into Device Manager and it looks fine, but I then Disable it, then Re-Enable it and it then works again. What could be causing this?

P4C800E- Deluxe
2.6GHz r5unning at 3.2Ghz
1gb PC3200
2 120gb Western Digital SE
ATI Radeon 8500
Windows XP Pro

I haven't had one problem with mine. I'm hooked into my personal network switch and I haven't had a problem.

Did you update your drivers?

Yes, I have the latest drivers. That hasn't made any difference. I also reinstalled Windows XP, but that didn't do anything either. Very annoying.

 

[Xeon]

Originally posted by: Nuker43
OK screw RAID0

I CAN"T BELIEVE THIS.. i didn't even set up a real raid0 yet... and the harddrive is already dead.

When i set up the raid0 it only saw 1 drive so i hit save anyway and it made a raid array... well i deleted the array to try agian to get both disks in it and bam the drive won't even boot up alone now.

what the hell this isn't worth it.

Dead? How?

No you don't need jumpers if their sata, and yes you can and should use XP to set it up. You hit F2 or F6 I can't remember which when you use the XP cd.

 

[Nuker43]

OH MAN


After 2 hours of trying to figure out why one of my SATA drives wasn't showing up it was because a stupid jumper was in the wrong SPOT!!

unbelieable... WD shows a jumper setting as the default and it was the default and made it not work!

Anyway i set up my RAID array using fastbuild... was this a bad idea? Should i just use xp?

Whats the next step

 

[computer]

Dave have you tried to overclock yet?

 

[DaveR]

No. I am installing XP now. I see my memory is 3-4-4-8 so may go to 250 right away!
That would be 3GHZ for this M0 2.4c. May be a good place to start.

Originally posted by: computer
Dave have you tried to overclock yet?

 

[computer]

That's 3ghz. If I remember correctly, isn't your memory CAS 2.5? I don't think they listed the other timings. Hopefully you can get at least the default speed of the memory which would be about 266mhz, DDR533.

 

[computer]

BTW, MemTest and WMD is not the tell all for O'clocking stability. Games are. I thought those programs would pretty much tell you how high you can go with stability and the cut-off point, but they do not. A while back a customer's PC passed all benchmarks and tests, even WMD and MemTest at 270mhz, but he started getting games shutting down and just disappearing. He backed the bus down to 260 and they are OK now. I'm not a gamer, so does anyone have any input on this? The board was an IS7 with the severely limited Vdimm of only 2.75v MAX, OCZ PC4000 Gold and a 2.4C.

 

[Xeon]

Originally posted by: Nuker43
OH MAN


After 2 hours of trying to figure out why one of my SATA drives wasn't showing up it was because a stupid jumper was in the wrong SPOT!!

unbelieable... WD shows a jumper setting as the default and it was the default and made it not work!

Anyway i set up my RAID array using fastbuild... was this a bad idea? Should i just use xp?

Whats the next step

Why in the world would you try to do an advanced HD setup without first knowing what it would take to do or without RTM?

Go HERE this will get you on the right path

 

[DaveR]

Yes, it is CAS 2.5-3. I am installing 46 critical updates now!

The Intel Application Accelerator would not install. I used the one on the ASUS CD. What's wrong?

Originally posted by: computer
That's 3ghz. If I remember correctly, isn't your memory CAS 2.5? I don't think they listed the other timings. Hopefully you can get at least the default speed of the memory which would be about 266mhz, DDR533.

 

[Nuker43]

Well... XP is installed and raid is all set up..


All i can say is WOW... xp only took about 6 minutes to install.

Programs are loading and installing in seconds.

It's amazing.

 

[DaveR]

Also, when I get a chance I will play with my bios as I get that darn countdown before it boots.

 

[computer]

Originally posted by: DaveR
Yes, it is CAS 2.5-3. I am installing 46 critical updates now!

The Intel Application Accelerator would not install. I used the one on the ASUS CD. What's wrong?

Originally posted by: computer
That's 3ghz. If I remember correctly, isn't your memory CAS 2.5? I don't think they listed the other timings. Hopefully you can get at least the default speed of the memory which would be about 266mhz, DDR533.

DO NOT INSTALL ALL OF THE UPDATES!! Give me a minute to find the info. The IAA won't install unless RAID is setup, defined, and the RAID drivers installed.

 

[DaveR]

But, my raid 0 is installed!

Also, I used the new promise raid drivers from the asus site.

Originally posted by: computer

Originally posted by: DaveR
Yes, it is CAS 2.5-3. I am installing 46 critical updates now!

The Intel Application Accelerator would not install. I used the one on the ASUS CD. What's wrong?

Originally posted by: computer
That's 3ghz. If I remember correctly, isn't your memory CAS 2.5? I don't think they listed the other timings. Hopefully you can get at least the default speed of the memory which would be about 266mhz, DDR533.

DO NOT INSTALL ALL OF THE UPDATES!! Give me a minute to find the info. The IAA won't install unless RAID is setup, defined, and the RAID drivers installed.

 

[computer]

Ok here's some info on it. For one:

Yeah, like Peter said in his other post, if you sub to the M$
bulletins is one way. One should avoid the update site since
contrary to what M$ says it does indeed scan your HD for
"personally identifiable information" and DOES send personal
info back to M$. Or at least it did. I can't find the URL on
that right now. You can go to the update site to see what you
need, then block all with your firewall and then read the page.
It of course still just scanned your HD, but blocking net
access after that point is still a good idea. Make a note of
the updates it "CLAIMS" you need, then you can look the updates
up at any search engine to find out if you really need them,
and download them. (Jerks have the right click disabled there,
so you can't copy and paste the update #'s in the usual manner.
So, you have to highlight the update's # and text, then 'ctrl
C' to copy them then you can paste them into Notepad so you
won't have to type all of them). You can also click the "read
more" links under each update to find out if you really need
the updates (that's usually under the links of "technical
details" I think or "mitigating factors" on the "read more"
pages) but that still leaves you on the update page. It's ok
to d'load them from an M$ site, I'd just avoid getting the
downloads from the update site itself, for one; like I said it
really probes your PC, and another is you'll have the physical
downloads you can save from that point on to a CD for when you
reformat or if you have to reinstall them, or install on other
PC's, etc. When you check out the mitigating factors areas,
you'll see that the majority of the updates are NOT NEEDED if
you run a firewall or have other things disabled like XP services.
I have one massive slowdown after another after installing
XP updates and some have rendered a PC unusable.


And.....

This makes me SICK....and not surprising at all. I hope it
infuriates others they way it does me. Something must be
done about these "cyber-terrorists".
http://www.spywareinfo.com/newsletter/archives/march-2003/10.php ........
What I'm going to start doing, is getting any Windows OS updates
from ELSEWHERE, other than the "Windows update site". It can be
done. I'm not about to have these 'cyber terrorists' suck info off of
my computers into their "massive collection jar". That's inexcusable.
What is really horrible about it, and the real point for me, is these
jerks have the unmitigated GALL to actually put that comment
on their webpage while the update site is 'scanning your PC',
that reads "This is done WITHOUT sending any information
back to M$"!!!!!!! I always doubted that statement, now I see
with good cause. Those jerks are going to get themselves in
such a legal mess greater than the one they are already in,
that they will go bankrupt. It will be a $100 billion corporate
class action lawsuit case (plus criminal charges) the likes of
the legal system has NEVER seen in history. Since Gates
has 60 Billion and counting, it would take about 100 billion to
get anyone's attention. That case will uncover atrocities that
will stun the world, you mark my words. I bet they have
dedicated storage area for EACH and every one of us!!!
"Big Brother" is an understatement, this is like a UPC barcode
stamped on a billion people that use their products. This
must be stopped. This makes what AOL does look like a
simple "passing hello". It's never bothered me before,
but I'm finding more and more cases regarding M$ spying and
privacy violations, and you just cannot trust a company that
does that. The majority of us have absolutely nothing to hide,
however IMO, that's not the point. I feel as though I'm being
"electronically raped". That *is* what they are doing to users.
I bet they are getting all this personal info, selling it to
spammers and telema*keting firms so they can harass us.
My 2 cents. ;-)

 

[computer]

Ok, then I don't know why the IAA won't install, someone that uses RAID will have to answer that.