*** Official ASUS P4C800/Deluxe (875P) Thread ***

[DaveR]

Thanks rpr. I will look. As I said last night, I do see my USB OK in Device manager. I will try putting a usb mouse in to see if it comes up. I just noticed that there is still one usb in OTHER with a ? and wondered why it was still there.

P.S. Still wonder about IAA!

Originally posted by: rpr
DaveR: FWIW, I had a terrible time trying to get my setup to properly recognize the high speed USB controller.

It turned out I had to install a non-critical Windows XP update. As far as I could tell, there is only one non-critical Windows XP update that refers to "USB" in the name of the update. Shouldn't be too hard to find. Good luck.

 

[DaveR]

ALL:

I guess I was correct. The IAA will only work if the ICH5R has drives on it! Otherwise it will not even install.

 

[DaveR]

OK, I went to other usb and told it to search for driver and it worked. I have 4 usb's in the USB portion of device manager and one usb2 entry. Is that correct?

 

[DaveR]

First Post with updated forums. :-0

Hey, Sisoft says my Raid0 is 89MB! Only faster by 10k and 15K drives, and my memory is off the page!

 

[DaveR]

Hey, I'm talking to myself here. I am at 270FSb. That is 3.25GHZ and 540MHZ on the memory as it is set 1:1.

How hot should I let this get?

The cpu shows 36c.

 

[computer]

Originally posted by: DaveR
First Post with updated forums. :-0

Hey, Sisoft says my Raid0 is 89MB! Only faster by 10k and 15K drives, and my memory is off the page!

Yep, and my LAST post here too. This is pathetic. Less features, less functionality, no email notifications either.

What HD's are you using and just what are the memory results?

 

[djanassis]

Hi everyone.

Does anyone know how I can activate the USB ports on my Dell LCD Monitor and on my Sony CRT monitor?

I plug USB devices on them but nothing happens.... Do they need to be connected to my motherboard?

Thanks


Dimitris


My specs:

DELL 2001FP 20" LCD, 16ms, 1600x1200@60Hz (DVI)
SONY CPD-G220 17" CRT, 1600x1200@60Hz (D-Sub)
Lian-Li PC-61 Alluminium Chassis
Tagan 480W Ultra-Silent PSU (20-28db)
P4 2.8GHz (800 MHz FSB, H/T)
ASUS P4C800
1024 MB DDR PC3200 CL2 Kingston Hyper-X 400MHz dual channel
ASUS v9950u GeForce FX 5900 ultra 256mb (flashed into a 5950 ultra)
2 x 80GB Western Digital (8MB cache) 7,200rpm
ASUS CRW-5232AS
SONY DVD-ROM 16x40
Coolermaster Q Keyboard / Compaq Black-Silver Keyboard
Sound Blaster 5.1 Live Digital
Sound Blaster 5.1 Surround Speaker Set

 

[DaveR]

Well, I am using 2 Maxtor 80GB SATA drives.

Memory shows Int at 6346MB/s and Float at 6426 MB/s.

Combined Index of 10,864 MB/s.

Originally posted by: computer

Originally posted by: DaveR
First Post with updated forums. :-0

Hey, Sisoft says my Raid0 is 89MB! Only faster by 10k and 15K drives, and my memory is off the page!

Yep, and my LAST post here too. This is pathetic. Less features, less functionality, no email notifications either.

What HD's are you using and just what are the memory results?

 

[DaveR]

Were did everyone go???

Michael, I am up to a 275MHZ FSB!

 

[computer]

Everyone is probably pissed off at these forum screw-ups. I have to login every damn time I come back to the site, I have to search for the latest post, I can't change my profile & sig. file and I have to because they also screwed up some of that, I can't use the IE spell checker for my posts anymore since there is no friggin' IE toolbar, I get server errors all of the time, I can't read my own text as I type because it's the size of a flea plus it's gray on gray, I'm no longer getting the email notifications to threads I'm subscribed to when someone has replied or posted to the thread....that's to name a few. Check out the "forum issues" area.

Your memory bench is right in line with 275mhz bus. I get about 6600 for both on mine @281mhz. That 89mb you mentioned for the HD's, is that the first result for the HD benchmark in Sandra, the "Buffered read"? If so, you must have the HD's connected to the Native ICH5. You need to go in the module options and try with cache bypassed and with cache on, there's a slight difference between the two with the drives on the ICH5. A single WD360 Raptor gets just under 100mb for Buffered Read on the ICH5, and the Seagate 80gb (7200rpm, 8mb, ATA100) got 86mb/sec, it was the highest of the IDE drives.

Ok, now I have to copy this text, open OE, paste it into a @#$&%! email and check for typo's using spell check, then copy it again and paste it back into this form. Pathetic. I don't know when I'll be back again to this thread. Only reason I'm still here is I had to start a thread in the video card area about TV Tuner cards.

 

[DaveR]

Well, I wish the major MoBo threads would be stuck to the top of the list as they used to be.

The numbers I gave you were when I was running 270MHZ. I will redo it at 275MHZ and look at the Sandra/buffer options. I wonder if I could get to 281MHZ?

Also, I am on the Promise...I never did attach anything to the ICH5R.

Will update data, memory and drive, tonight.

Originally posted by: computer
Everyone is probably pissed off at these forum screw-ups. I have to login every damn time I come back to the site, I have to search for the latest post, I can't change my profile & sig. file and I have to because they also screwed up some of that, I can't use the IE spell checker for my posts anymore since there is no friggin' IE toolbar, I get server errors all of the time, I can't read my own text as I type because it's the size of a flea plus it's gray on gray, I'm no longer getting the email notifications to threads I'm subscribed to when someone has replied or posted to the thread....that's to name a few. Check out the "forum issues" area.

Your memory bench is right in line with 275mhz bus. I get about 6600 for both on mine @281mhz. That 89mb you mentioned for the HD's, is that the first result for the HD benchmark in Sandra, the "Buffered read"? If so, you must have the HD's connected to the Native ICH5. You need to go in the module options and try with cache bypassed and with cache on, there's a slight difference between the two with the drives on the ICH5. A single WD360 Raptor gets just under 100mb for Buffered Read on the ICH5, and the Seagate 80gb (7200rpm, 8mb, ATA100) got 86mb/sec, it was the highest of the IDE drives.

Ok, now I have to copy this text, open OE, paste it into a @#$&%! email and check for typo's using spell check, then copy it again and paste it back into this form. Pathetic. I don't know when I'll be back again to this thread. Only reason I'm still here is I had to start a thread in the video card area about TV Tuner cards.

 

[computer]

I finally got an email notification on this and at least they are much better logically showing the actual reply in them. But, when you click the damn link in them they still go the first damn original post a year ago, and I'm still having to login every freakin' time I come back to this site!!!

That's really low for benchmarks on the Promise controller, I don't understand that. You should be getting over 2000MB/sec buffered read results on Sandra with cache on, and over 1000MB/sec with cache off. A single Raptor or Maxtor ATA133/80gb/7200/8mb gets almost 2000MB/sec and 1000MB/sec respectively on Sandra buffered read. Is your memory set to 1:1, and Turbo and PAT enabled?

You may not be able to get to 281mhz without doing a vdimm mod. Set your memory to the max of 2.85v to get the highest FSB you can, and the CPU should be about 1.58v.

 

[DaveR]

Computer. My CPU is 1.6, I believe.

I will look, but believe turbo and PAT are on. Memory is 2.85 already. Also, I will look at the Sisoft again. When I said 89MB I do not believe I was looking at the same spec you were.

P.S. I still wish the MoBo threads stayed on top as before.

 

[rakeshmp]

Does anyone have any advice on where to find a driver for the onboard Intel ICH5R controller to run 2 74GB WD raptors in raid 0 configuration? I have set them up as raid 0 on the mobo, but now when I run XP pro install, it doesn't find any drives to install to. Please Help!

 

[DaveR]

Once they are on the controller, you need 2 things. Use the Wd utils to Partition them and go to Intel and get the raid version of IAA. Look for the driver where you hit F6 when installing XP. Put that on a floppy and hit F6 when XP starts to install. You are saying that you have a floppy where XP will look for the driver.


http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/iaa_raid/

Originally posted by: rakeshmp
Does anyone have any advice on where to find a driver for the onboard Intel ICH5R controller to run 2 74GB WD raptors in raid 0 configuration? I have set them up as raid 0 on the mobo, but now when I run XP pro install, it doesn't find any drives to install to. Please Help!

 

[Chad]

Well, I just tried switching my SATA Raptor 74 gig WD drive from the ICH5 to the Promise controller. Benchmarked it and in my case, the ICH5 was consistently faster in every bench. Note that I was not in raid or anything as I have a single Raptor drive.

That was a big waste of time. :/

Computer, I think something is wrong with your system dude, or you have something not set correctly. The ICH5 is (and should be) faster. It is in my case.

 

[computer]

Originally posted by: Chad
Well, I just tried switching my SATA Raptor 74 gig WD drive from the ICH5 to the Promise controller. Benchmarked it and in my case, the ICH5 was consistently faster in every bench. Note that I was not in raid or anything as I have a single Raptor drive.

That was a big waste of time. :/

Computer, I think something is wrong with your system dude, or you have something not set correctly. The ICH5 is (and should be) faster. It is in my case.

No, I tried two different P4C800-E Deluxe's. Is that what you are using? I also didn't test the new Raptor, but I have one coming in tomorrow and I'm going to test it. What test or benchmark program did you use? What BIOS version? Is there an OS on it? Used BIOS 14 and the other 1009 or 1011 I think. Also, no OS should be on it because if there is and you switch controllers, that could change things. All of my drives were blank drives as a stand alone master.

Notes: No cards/peripherals were installed (except of course for a
the video card). All hard drives were blank, just formatted
drives using their respective manufacturer's format CD in
NTFS. All drives were stand alone master configurations.
No case was used. Main OS hard drive was an IBM 60GXP
20gb, 7200rpm, 2mb buffer. Drives were frequently
defrag'd during the tests.

 

[computer]

Also note like I mentioned before, BIOS versions 14 and after don't have UDMA 6 support on the ICH5. The majority of my tests and the 2nd run were done with BIOS 1014 which is only UDMA 5 on the ICH5.

 

[DaveR]

Computer. I am now confused. I get 90MB/s. I used Sandra 2004 sp1. I can not be that bad. I can check bios but I was sure turbo and PAT are on.

I was going to keep everything on this Promise but I am starting to wonder.

Originally posted by: computer
I finally got an email notification on this and at least they are much better logically showing the actual reply in them. But, when you click the damn link in them they still go the first damn original post a year ago, and I'm still having to login every freakin' time I come back to this site!!!

That's really low for benchmarks on the Promise controller, I don't understand that. You should be getting over 2000MB/sec buffered read results on Sandra with cache on, and over 1000MB/sec with cache off. A single Raptor or Maxtor ATA133/80gb/7200/8mb gets almost 2000MB/sec and 1000MB/sec respectively on Sandra buffered read. Is your memory set to 1:1, and Turbo and PAT enabled?

You may not be able to get to 281mhz without doing a vdimm mod. Set your memory to the max of 2.85v to get the highest FSB you can, and the CPU should be about 1.58v.

 

[Chad]

I am certainly no pro, so I imagine I may not be doing something correctly. But here is the data I got..

P4c800-E-Deluxe
1016 BIOS (this also is only UDMA5)
Used the Promise FastTrak 378 ATA Driver V1.00.1.30 (this detects as UDMA6)
PAT and Turbo both enabled
Front Side Bus is at 233
Ram is at 400 (2.5, 3, 3, 5)
Drive is SATA Raptor 74 Gig 10,000rpm

Sisoft Sandra 2004 Results...

ICH5
File System Drive Index - 53MB/s
Buffered Read - 83MB/s
Sequential Read - 65MB/s
Random Read - 31MB/s
Buffered Write - 80MB/s
Sequential Write - 65MB/s
Random Write - 49MB/s
Average Access Time - 17ms


Promise
File System Drive Index - 52MB/s
Buffered Read - 55MB/s
Sequential Read - 65MB/s
Random Read - 29MB/s
Buffered Write - 72MB/s
Sequential Write - 65MB/s
Random Write - 49MB/s
Average Access Time - 19ms

Make of it what you will.

 

[computer]

Computer. I am now confused. I get 90MB/s. I used Sandra 2004 sp1. I can not be that bad. I can check bios but I was sure turbo and PAT are on.

I was going to keep everything on this Promise but I am starting to wonder.

I doubt Turbo and PAT are going to have that much of an impact on those results. Are you SURE the drives are on the Promise SATA connector? You know, it could be that you're having to slave one drive since there is only one ATA connector on the Promise (or are you using SATA drives? I can't remember). But, it still should not make that much of a difference. The lowest I ever got on the Promise for Sandra Pro '04 was 952 MB/sec and that was on a single WD800JB ATA100. I never tested RAID, but there's no way what you have could be about 10 times slower, that just doesn't make any sense. Could be a bad stripe size choice, but still that's not going to make that much of a difference as we are seeing here. I used the Promise drivers that were on the Asus CD. Are you SURE this is the result for the "Buffered Read" area where you scroll down in the results area? Are all the boxes checked in the File System benchmark options? You may want to try toggling "bypass Windows disk cache" and "use overlapped I/O requests".

 

[Chad]

Originally posted by: computer
Are you SURE this is the result for the "Buffered Read" area where you scroll down in the results area? Are all the boxes checked in the File System benchmark options? You may want to try toggling "bypass Windows disk cache" and "use overlapped I/O requests".

My results are basically the same as his. Yes, I scrolled down in the results area. Yes all of the boxes were checked. I just tried unticking the two boxes you mentioned and here are those results...

ICH5
File System Drive Index - 59MB/s
Buffered Read - 82MB/s
Sequential Read - 72MB/s
Random Read - 55MB/s
Buffered Write - 39MB/s
Sequential Write - 41MB/s
Random Write - 40MB/s
Average Access Time - 3ms

Some results were better, some were worse. I am confused. :/ Also, I should mention, Sandra has me rated right where I should be with that Drive Index score. My score is right where it should be by comparing to the Sandra database.

 

[computer]

Originally posted by: Chad
I am certainly no pro, so I imagine I may not be doing something correctly. But here is the data I got..

P4c800-E-Deluxe
1016 BIOS (this also is only UDMA5)
Used the Promise FastTrak 378 ATA Driver V1.00.1.30 (this detects as UDMA6)
PAT and Turbo both enabled
Front Side Bus is at 233
Ram is at 400 (2.5, 3, 3, 5)
Drive is SATA Raptor 74 Gig 10,000rpm

Sisoft Sandra 2004 Results...

ICH5
File System Drive Index - 53MB/s
Buffered Read - 83MB/s
Sequential Read - 65MB/s
Random Read - 31MB/s
Buffered Write - 80MB/s
Sequential Write - 65MB/s
Random Write - 49MB/s
Average Access Time - 17ms


Promise
File System Drive Index - 52MB/s
Buffered Read - 55MB/s
Sequential Read - 65MB/s
Random Read - 29MB/s
Buffered Write - 72MB/s
Sequential Write - 65MB/s
Random Write - 49MB/s
Average Access Time - 19ms

Make of it what you will.

Something is wrong there. For one, the "Drive index" is in KB/sec. This is the number that is displayed in the bar graph at the top of the results window. So if all you did was convert it to MB/sec, that would mean 53,000 and 52,000 KB/sec. Is that what was there in the graph? If so, that is VERY high, but makes absolutely no sense since the access times should be less than 3ms and your buffered read should be way over 100mb sec on the ICH5 and over 2000MB/sec on Promise. I don't get it. Like I said I'm getting mine WD740 Raptor in Thursday and I'm going to check it out the same way I did this list of other drives.

 

[Chad]

Originally posted by: computer
Something is wrong there. For one, the "Drive index" is in KB/sec. This is the number that is displayed in the bar graph at the top of the results window. So if all you did was convert it to MB/sec, that would mean 53,000 and 52,000 KB/sec. Is that what was there in the graph? If so, that is VERY high, but makes absolutely no sense since the access times should be less than 3ms and your buffered read should be way over 100mb sec on the ICH5 and over 2000MB/sec on Promise. I don't get it. Like I said I'm getting mine WD740 Raptor in Thursday and I'm going to check it out the same way I did this list of other drives.

Actually, I haven't done anything to Sandra at all except run its tests and by default, the "Drive Index" score comes up in MB/s on its own by default, so I dunno what is going on. I am wondering, have you updated Sandra lately? You can do an Auto-Update from within the program.

When I unticked those two boxes that you mentioned, I did get a 3ms access time. Did you see my last post where I posted those results?

Thanks for helping us out here. I hope we can figure out what is wrong as I really want to get the most out of this hard drive. So far I have been very unimpressed. My Western Digital 120jb Special Edition is almost this drives equal, and is bigger MUCH MUCH quiter (dang this Rapor is really loud - my 120jb is dead silent!).

I think I am doing something wrong or I got a bad drive. For a few days the Raptor was quiet, but after that everytime it does something I can hear it doing its thing and it is kinda loud. :/

P.S. My File System score in the regular Sandra test was 53996 (if that means anything).

 

[DaveR]

OK, here is what I have on my P4C800e-Deluxe Promise SATA. I have two 80GB Maxtor SATA drives in Raid0. MoBo is at bios 1014, with latest Promise raid driver from ASUS site.

Also, I am at a FSB of 275Mhz with 2.4c and 1gb Komusa pc4200@550MHZ.



Promise
File System Drive Index - 90MB/s
Buffered Read - 45MB/s
Sequential Read - 113MB/s
Random Read - 55MB/s
Buffered Write - 89MB/s
Sequential Write - 102MB/s
Random Write - 76MB/s
Average Access Time - 9ms

I believe my numbers are better than Chad's but computer they are no where near what you quote.