(OBR) AMD Radeon HD 7970 GHz - "GPU Boost" and faked clocks!

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Arzachel

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I wouldn't be surprised if AMD clocked it up high and it ate 250~ watts.

AMD was never very smart.

250w with that performance (laughable against a much more efficient 680)...

AMD is just setting themselves up for failure, it opens the door for Nvidia to drop a power hog GK110 and roflstomp AMD once again.
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The same could be said about the GTX580 and the 6970. While the 580 pulled ~250W it still held the performance crown. So when AMD outperforms Nvidia, efficiency suddenly becomes more important? :p

I've said it before and I'll say it again, AMD seems to be on track to release 3 or atleast 2.5 generations when Nvidia only manages 2. Somewhat reminiscent of what Nvidia did against 3dfx, let's see if this ends up being beneficial for AMD.
 
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Homeles

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BallaTheFeared said:
It's their 680... Well it was going to be... Until AMD released the 7970 and everyone at Nvidia went...
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Don Karnage said:
GK110 is the real GTX 680. The current GTX 680 is just in reality a 660 Ti
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It's the 780... GK100 was the "real" 680, which was a failed chip.

Dark Shroud said:
Has this every been officially confirmed by Nvidia?

Like others have said it looks like GK110 will only be used in some upcoming Tesla cards.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5840/...gk104-based-tesla-k10-gk110-based-tesla-k20/1
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Only Tesla based GK110 has been announced... but GK110 has an awfully odd design for a chip that won't be handling gaming workloads, no? You should definitely expect to see GK110 in a GTX780.

Anyways, here's a link to the VR-Zone video benchmark for Batman:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkGlrKo7-mg&feature=autoplay&list=UUv1vMoSIinNXH4usNXEOyRA&playnext=1
100 average FPS @1080p. Pretty crazy.
 
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chimaxi83

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Dark Shroud said:
Has this every been officially confirmed by Nvidia?
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No, never. It is the official word of tech sites and fanatics. There are some indications, but the only people really spouting this stuff as fact anymore are blind fanboys (except Don because he's cool ;)).
 
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Dark Shroud

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Homeles said:
It's the 780... GK100 was the "real" 680, which was a failed chip.


Only Tesla based GK110 has been announced... but GK110 has an awfully odd design for a chip that won't be handling gaming workloads, no? You should definitely expect to see GK110 in a GTX780.

Anyways, here's a link to the VR-Zone video benchmark for Batman:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkGlrKo7-mg&feature=autoplay&list=UUv1vMoSIinNXH4usNXEOyRA&playnext=1
100 average FPS @1080p. Pretty crazy.
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Now this I can believe with the 780. It will be interesting to see how the next to cards go head to head.
 
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Seems kinda silly. I mean, it's not like the GPU market is comparable to the P4 vs Athlon XP days. Fudging your clock speed numbers wouldn't really give you much of a mind-share advantage if the benchmarks don't match.

If anything, wouldn't inflated clockspeed reports next to unimpressive performance increases lead to the conclusion that there's an IPC drop from firmware or that the new revision just doesn't benefit from overclocking as much? It seems like that would be a pretty big dig into the market for such a card.

If there is any legitimacy to the rumor, I think it's a pretty big mistake.
 
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Homeles

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chimaxi83 said:
No, never. It is the official word of tech sites and fanatics. There are some indications, but the only people really spouting this stuff as fact anymore are blind fanboys (except Don because he's cool ;)).
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There's also a long-running trend of offering workstation cards and graphics cards using the same chip. No reason for that to change.
 
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blackened23

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Ghiedo27 said:
Seems kinda silly. I mean, it's not like the GPU market is comparable to the P4 vs Athlon XP days. Fudging your clock speed numbers wouldn't really give you much of a mind-share advantage if the benchmarks don't match.

If anything, wouldn't inflated clockspeed reports next to unimpressive performance increases lead to the conclusion that there's an IPC drop from firmware or that the new revision just doesn't benefit from overclocking as much? It seems like that would be a pretty big dig into the market for such a card.

If there is any legitimacy to the rumor, I think it's a pretty big mistake.
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The claim is deflated clockspeeds. So OBR is saying that AMD is faking a low clockspeed lol. Which anyone who thinks rationally would realize is absolutely retarded, because it makes no sense to report a deflated clockspeed.
 
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Final8ty

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The claim is deflated clockspeeds. So OBR is saying that AMD is faking a low clockspeed lol. Which anyone who thinks rationally would realize is absolutely retarded, because it makes no sense to report a deflated clockspeed. Second, consumers look at CPU mhz but usually not GPU mhz.
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It doesn't make sense and just likely a GPU-Z reporting error.
 
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AnandThenMan

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Final8ty said:
No i don't visit this site often, so my excuse is understandable while yours is not.
Get used to me posting new threads without me making comments and i have no more time to waste on people who get upset about it and i said nothing about believing it.
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How you see it is up to you, im posting information and i don't have to comment on it.
I had no idea who this OBR was so don't presumes my intentions.
I have posted it on about 4 sites without issues, if you want to make i flame out of it then its your problem.
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So let me see if I understand you correctly. You have no idea about ORB or the quality of him or his information. Right? But you post the link to his article on 4+ sites? o_O
 
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blackened23 said:
The claim is deflated clockspeeds. So OBR is saying that AMD is faking a low clockspeed lol. Which anyone who thinks rationally would realize is absolutely retarded, because it makes no sense to report a deflated clockspeed.
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No reason to use derogatory words, it's not that big of a deal it's just a 7970 that AMD overclocked for you so they could attempt to maintain their current market prices.
 
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Final8ty

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AnandThenMan said:
So let me see if I understand you correctly. You have no idea about ORB or the quality of him or his information. Right? But you post the link to his article on 4+ sites? o_O
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Yep.

I don't go around validating everything i post to be factual or not and neither is it in the rules to be so, its a rumour, he will be known to some and not to others, people who know will say that he is not to be trusted and so be it but then again i see the same about many sites even anandtech, its not my job to be a censor.
Just see it as amusing entertainment that should not be taken seriously.
 
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Homeles

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BallaTheFeared said:
Not when there is no high end and mid-ranged cards occupy the $500+ price point they aren't.
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People are getting more performance for the same money. How is that not a win? I agree that everything this generation is overpriced, but until next generation, bumps like these are a win for everybody.
 
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blackened23 said:
Yeah, AMD is misreporting the GPU clock speed on purpose. It totally makes sense to misrepresent 1200mhz as 1050, because the average consumer gives a fck about the clockspeed. And OBR definitely has NOT made total inflammatory comments about AMD for the past year, sure he was right about crapdozer but he trolls AMD nonstop and always has even before and after that. Oh wait, anyone with a brain would know that he has trolled AMD for the past 2 years on his site even before crapcoredozer.

Seriously, think rationally, how does it make sense to represent 1200 as 1050. Why on earth would anyone report a lower than correct clockspeed? Not that the average idiot consumer even cares.

:rolleyes: I don't even run AMD anymore. Now below follows passive aggressive stupid comments about AMD shills and all that nonsense. I guess Shanee Ben-Zur isn't keeping her nvidia evangelism group in line this month.
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Indeed. Even if the link is 100% correct in its' assertions, I'm confused as to how it's supposed to be controversial.
 
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sandorski said:
Indeed. Even if the link is 100% correct in its' assertions, I'm confused as to how it's supposed to be controversial.
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i think what he means is amd has a gpu running at 1200 but reports as 1050 to make it seem like its better than the 680 at 1050 when its really at 1200

so like wine amd gpus get better with age?? o_O

and yet the world still turns...:whiste:
 
chimaxi83

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Final8ty said:
Yep.

I don't go around validating everything i post to be factual or not and neither is it in the rules to be so, its a rumour, he will be known to some and not to others, people who know will say that he is not to be trusted and so be it but then again i see the same about many sites even anandtech, its not my job to be a censor.
Just see it as amusing entertainment that should not be taken seriously.
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Off topic is that way --->
 
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Final8ty

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chimaxi83 said:
Off topic is that way --->
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The question in the first place was, so don't get upset that the reply was.
And on top of that your first post was in the same vain as his and your perpetuating things by your actions.
You really do have a habit of doing the opposite of what you claim as i have a right to reply to his comment.
 
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