Nvidia 3D Vision vs ATI Eyefinity

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imported_Shaq

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Tough call. A 50" screen at 1080p in 3D or 3 monitors and almost perfect image quality. I would give the edge to 3D Vision since some of the Eyefinity videos on YouTube had distorted images. HAWX was stretched on the two side monitors and the Batman menu was zoomed in. It obviously will not be plug and play with every game. Hopefully we can have both at some point with monitors with very thin bezels. That would be awesome.
 

Tempered81

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Eyefinity by a long shot.. three 50" displays at 1080p. Or 6 projectors... or 24 monitors... Although I'm assuming the majority will be triple display at 1080p
 

SlowSpyder

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: SlowSpyder


Sweet, hunrdeds of dollars for 3 x 1280x1024 or 1680 x 1050 res. What if I want 3 x 1080P?

I was just pointing out an option that people have had for awhile now regarding gaming on 3 monitors. It also supports video cards from both companies and does not require a displayport monitor.

Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
Wreckage is back and distorting the facts... again.

What did I distort. Please point out any statement in this thread that I made that is not true.

A distortion may be what you didn't say as much as what you did. Yup, Matrox has a solution that can support up to 3 monitors... at low resolutions and for hunrdeds ($280 on Newegg) more than your initial video card purchase.
 

dguy6789

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
For those who missed it.
http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/products/gxm/th2go/

# Run three independent monitors from your notebook or desktop computer even if that system only supports a one monitor output*
# A three monitor setup lets you organize your workspace more efficiently, multi-task more comfortably and make fewer errors
# Open a different application on each monitor or stretch one application across three monitors for the ultimate in Surround Graphics
# Experience Surround Gaming by expanding supported 3D games across three monitors; achieve a much wider in-game field of view

You do realize that 3D Vision is old technology that's been tried and failed before right? You know that, but you are conveniently leaving it out when you're saying Eyefinity is old technology. :thumbsdown:
 

Forumpanda

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I just take it as confirmation that next gen nVidia cards will not support more than 2 monitors, otherwise, why downplay multi monitor support?
 

Wreckage

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Originally posted by: dguy6789


You do realize that 3D Vision is old technology that's been tried and failed before right? You know that, but you are conveniently leaving it out when you're saying Eyefinity is old technology. :thumbsdown:

Great, link to a competing technology that works with current games and cards.

I linked to a similar current technology that works with current games and video cards. So everyone launches personal attacks against me as if I insulted their mother. :roll:

I did not leave out anything more than is being discussed. Other people have mentioned how images look distorted on Eyefinity and how it requires you to buy a Displayport monitor. Should people who leave that out also be attacked for "distorting the truth"?

This thread is explicitly about Nvidia 3D Vision vs ATI Eyefinity, yet we are not allowed to discuss the pros and cons. Awesome.

Sigh.
 

akugami

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Originally posted by: uclaLabrat
Originally posted by: Wreckage
For those who missed it.
http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/products/gxm/th2go/

# Run three independent monitors from your notebook or desktop computer even if that system only supports a one monitor output*
# A three monitor setup lets you organize your workspace more efficiently, multi-task more comfortably and make fewer errors
# Open a different application on each monitor or stretch one application across three monitors for the ultimate in Surround Graphics
# Experience Surround Gaming by expanding supported 3D games across three monitors; achieve a much wider in-game field of view

Dude, no one cares that you want to denigrate eyefinity as "old tech", matrox's solution was hacked together and not nearly as elegant as running the 3 monitors from one vid card.

We get it. Let it go.

Old tech? I'm not saying that nVidia hasn't improved on 3D stereoscopic technology but it's not exactly new tech either. In fact, stereoscopic images were first created in 1840 by Sir Charles Wheatstone.
 

Munky

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
Well 3 monitors was done years ago by Matrox. Besides the bezel separation is annoying.

3D is the way of the future. My next monitor/video card upgrade will probably be towards that. I really want to play games like World of Warcraft in 3D.

Great, stereo rendering was done years ago as well in professional 3d apps and OpenGL. Long before Nvidia.
 

dguy6789

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: dguy6789


You do realize that 3D Vision is old technology that's been tried and failed before right? You know that, but you are conveniently leaving it out when you're saying Eyefinity is old technology. :thumbsdown:

Great, link to a competing technology that works with current games and cards.

I linked to a similar current technology that works with current games and video cards. So everyone launches personal attacks against me as if I insulted their mother. :roll:

I did not leave out anything more than is being discussed. Other people have mentioned how images look distorted on Eyefinity and how it requires you to buy a Displayport monitor. Should people who leave that out also be attacked for "distorting the truth"?

This thread is explicitly about Nvidia 3D Vision vs ATI Eyefinity, yet we are not allowed to discuss the pros and cons. Awesome.

Sigh.

Ridiculous.

You try playing a modern game using triple monitors with a Matrox card and then get back to me. You're downplaying Eyefinity by calling it old and already done before(which is not even a negative, you're just trying to make it sound like one) even though 3D Vision is even older.
 

Arkaign

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They're both interesting but problematic.

Eyefinity would be about a million times cooler if we could get true borderless displays. That would own.
 

nyker96

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just saw the Hardcop review on this eyefinity feature, looks very cool for certain games, very immersive indeed. must say with the monitors at today's prices, it's not too expensive to have a 3x setup. don't know too much about NV's 3d techonology may be a good one as well but haven;t seen too many games having that while the eyefinity seem to support most games quite alright, even more games can easily patched to support it so I have to give it the upper hand in game support right now.
 

Andrmgic

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I'm definitely more interested in eyefinity than 3d vision. I'd pick up 3x 22" displayport monitors and plug them up to a 5870.

I may wait until they put out the X2 model and get eyefinity working with crossfire, though.. then I could play pretty much anything..
 

Wreckage

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Originally posted by: dguy6789

Ridiculous.

You try playing a modern game using triple monitors with a Matrox card and then get back to me. You're downplaying Eyefinity by calling it old and already done before(which is not even a negative, you're just trying to make it sound like one) even though 3D Vision is even older.


Matrox card? There you go distorting the truth again. I bet you did not even read what I linked, you just wanted to argue.

Uses your system's existing graphics card to deliver a stable platform for office, 3D design, and multimedia applications

Huh.
 

Red Storm

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: dguy6789

Ridiculous.

You try playing a modern game using triple monitors with a Matrox card and then get back to me. You're downplaying Eyefinity by calling it old and already done before(which is not even a negative, you're just trying to make it sound like one) even though 3D Vision is even older.


Matrox card? There you go distorting the truth again. I bet you did not even read what I linked, you just wanted to argue.

Uses your system's existing graphics card to deliver a stable platform for office, 3D design, and multimedia applications

Huh.

And again I ask, why would you spend almost $300 on a device when it's only functionality is included with the 5870 (and implemented better) for around the same price?

Pay $300~ for the Matrox device, or pay $300~ for a video card that can do the same thing, but also has very high performance?
 

Wreckage

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Originally posted by: Red Storm

Pay $300~ for the Matrox device, or pay $300~ for a video card that can do the same thing, but also has very high performance?

Assuming you have a displayport monitor right? Also the Matrox device is $279 and I believe the 5870 is $379 or more. Not sure how much a new displayport monitor is.

So one works with your current setup, the other needs a new monitor and video card.

It's just an option (that seems to really upset people I guess).
 

Forumpanda

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
It's just an option (that seems to really upset people I guess).
Nah its just the fact that you repeat the same stuff over and over and over again in every thread, and mostly ignore people who point out flaws in your argument.

It is completely and utterly impossible to have a meaningful conversation with you when you ignore people and start the same marketing spiel as if nothing happened.
What further aggravates me is that it is impossible for other people to have a debate without it getting derailed almost immediately.

Truth does not happen by repetition, even if you want it so.
You posted your point of view, we read it, now don't come back until you got something new to say.

I didn't come here to read marketing BS, is there a way to to simply hide certain peoples posts?
 

Red Storm

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: Red Storm

Pay $300~ for the Matrox device, or pay $300~ for a video card that can do the same thing, but also has very high performance?

Assuming you have a displayport monitor right? Also the Matrox device is $279 and I believe the 5870 is $379 or more. Not sure how much a new displayport monitor is.

So one works with your current setup, the other needs a new monitor and video card.

It's just an option (that seems to really upset people I guess).

Ah, good catch on the 5870. I meant 5800 in general, as the 5850 will also support 3 displays.

A displayport monitor will be cheaper than $200 3D glasses plus a 120MHz LCD (fairly rare still).
 

SlowSpyder

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: Red Storm

Pay $300~ for the Matrox device, or pay $300~ for a video card that can do the same thing, but also has very high performance?

Assuming you have a displayport monitor right? Also the Matrox device is $279 and I believe the 5870 is $379 or more. Not sure how much a new displayport monitor is.

So one works with your current setup, the other needs a new monitor and video card.

It's just an option (that seems to really upset people I guess).

Wouldn't most people arleady only have a max of two monitors since that's all that could be run prior to the 5870? So if you want to take advantage of the third monitor you have to buy it anyway, might as well get one with display port. I don't understand what you are getting at. The 5870 doesn't come with a display port monitor. It's not like you have to throw away your other monitor (or two other monitors) that you already have, just get a third with display port if you want.

With the 3D glasses, if you have two monitors already, one has to be replaced. Or is it both due to dual DVI?

At any rate, if you want a third monitor, there's a good chance you need to buy it anyway, so get display port, what's the big deal?
 

BladeVenom

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3d has failed over and over again. No one likes the glasses, and it gives people headaches. That hasn't changed, and it will fail yet again.

Eyefinity is looking like it will be superior to other multi monitor systems, and has a good chance of becoming popular. Current LCD technology and prices also help make this better than older systems.
 

ClownPuncher

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I have no use for eye fatigue causing shuttered glasses. I do however have several uses for a 3 monitor setup as a game modder, 3d modeler, graphic designer...game playing kind of guy.
 

videogames101

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: Red Storm

Pay $300~ for the Matrox device, or pay $300~ for a video card that can do the same thing, but also has very high performance?

Assuming you have a displayport monitor right? Also the Matrox device is $279 and I believe the 5870 is $379 or more. Not sure how much a new displayport monitor is.

So one works with your current setup, the other needs a new monitor and video card.

It's just an option (that seems to really upset people I guess).

It's called an adapter.
 

Keysplayr

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Well, I have the 3DVision setup, and I've seen the Eyefinity demonstrations.
Eyefinity is very cool for anything short of gaming IMHO. I've said it before, and many have agreed, that the monitor bezels are a deal breaker for gaming. I honestly don't know how anyone can look at a 3 or 6 monitor checkerbox and say, "Ohhh, I've got to have this!". That coolnes factor will wear off real soon as they become aggravated by the distracting bezels directly in your field of view.

For non gaming apps, it's awesome. Picture a day trader at home office with 24 screens each with a different stock ticker gliding across. That would be broker Nirvana. One of many examples in various professions.

The day that bezeless monitors that can be butted together and barely telling where one monitor ends and the next begins, is the day i'll become very interested in technology such as Eyefinity. Give me a single affordable 130 degree curved monitor at a res of 48xx x 1050 (one monitor), and I'm there.

3DVision makes more sense to me than Eyefinity for gaming. It's pretty cut an dry for me.
So, I think you know where my vote goes.
 

ZimZum

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Eyefinity has more applications than gaming. Much more. I'm interested in it for 2d apps alone.
 

Idontcare

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I want both.

Eyefinity for this:

Originally posted by: Keysplayr
For non gaming apps, it's awesome. Picture a day trader at home office with 24 screens each with a different stock ticker gliding across. That would be broker Nirvana. One of many examples in various professions.

Albeit forex in my case, each screen could be dedicated to a single currency pair with the nine relevant timeframes separately charted but large enough to see the desired info and "big picture".

And I want 3D Vision for this, as computational chemistry is still something of a passion for me and being able to assemble the z-matrix with direct 3D placement of atoms in the modeler would be crazy faster than doing it by 2D projections as I do now.

As it stands now though I have neither, so either would be an improvement in my case.