NV 12VHPWR issues revisited

[Fallen Kell]

bro its 2025 and nothing ever happens anymore, its a pirates world and laws basically don't exist unless you step on the wrong toes

Actually that is exactly why the insurance companies would be the ones to do this because they want to cover their own asses so they don't have to pay out. And yes, you are absolutely correct, the state/government won't do anything unless 10+ babies died from it... But in the same fashion, no one is regulating what an insurance company will need to pay out for in terms of claims, all they have to do is stipulate that they won't cover it and the insurance company is then protected from having to cover it in any future claim case.

 

[Bigos]

A friend insists on 5070Ti and it seems all of the models use the 12V-2X6 connector. I guess it means there is no choice.

From what I understand, this version of the connector is "safer". The card also uses quite a lot less power than 4090/5090 that were burning. I would also expect the failure rate to be quite low overall, but I do not want a friend's house to burn for being the unlucky 1%...

Can 5070Ti with 12V-2X6 be considered "safe"? Are there cards with additional safety measures I could look into?

 

[DrMrLordX]

Can 5070Ti with 12V-2X6 be considered "safe"? Are there cards with additional safety measures I could look into?

If he really wants it to be safe, he should possibly consider using one of the Ampinel or Thermal Grizzly devices. But yes lower wattage cards are less likely to cause problems.

 

[coercitiv]

From what I understand, this version of the connector is "safer". The card also uses quite a lot less power than 4090/5090 that were burning. I would also expect the failure rate to be quite low overall, but I do not want a friend's house to burn for being the unlucky 1%...

Can 5070Ti with 12V-2X6 be considered "safe"? Are there cards with additional safety measures I could look into?

I would argue that ~250W is where the safe land ends for this connector, that's the napkin math upper threshold for a worst case scenario where only 2 wires can take most of the amperage and still stay close to max spec. Anything above that will introduce a slooowly increasing risk, culminating at whatever failure rate there is with 4090/5090 cards (still low, but not low enough considering the evidence in this thread).

That being said, I think your friend will be safe with a 5070 Ti as long as you take the most common precautions - good quality PSU with good quality cables (don't use an adapter, buy 12V-2x6 cable from PSU manufacturer if you have to) , proper insertion of the 12V-2x6 connector in a position where no strong bending is applied (at sharp angle). In other words make sure the card has ample room in the case of your friend's choice. Don't cut corners, Nvidia did that already for us

It would also be a great idea to limit the card power a little, lower it by 10-15% or better yet choose a card with dual bios and enable the "silent" one which usually does that in a more reliable manner.