Mai72
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She did NOT say "indefinitely." She said that things are going to be very choatic, confusing, difficult for 3-5 months. She didn't say it would taper at that point, she made no prognostications of that nature.
This is certainly worth your 6 minutes! Watch it!
Osterholm is OK, Rogan's an asshole.Maybe. BTW, the vaccine might be years away.
Osterholm is OK, Rogan's an asshole.
uh still no. you need to look up the definition of "indefinite".Maybe. BTW, the vaccine might be years away.
Bad idea if it can become endemic and mutate new strains every season. This is very likely due to reassortment with other, already-endemic, human coronaviruses:uh still no. you need to look up the definition of "indefinite".
Also you need to watch the entire osterholm podcast. He literally says natural immunity of people who get it and recover is what he is betting on to slow the outbreak. We do not have to wait for a vaccine. just calm down bro.
true, but also, hes sort of an expert on this stuff?Bad idea if it can become endemic and mutate new strains every season. This is very likely due to reassortment with other, already-endemic, human coronaviruses:
Vaccinate ASAP. Nip it in the bud. Eliminate it.
WTF are your saying, you don't know shit about why I feel this way about Rogan! I watched enough of Joe Rogan already to know he's an asshole. He actually suggested forcing convicts to be guinea pigs to test vaccines for covid-19 in that video. That's when I turned it off in disgust.So - mind saying why and how exactly Rogan is an asshole?
Seriously, I don't understand what warp-field you guys go through to establish these HARDCORE opinions of folks that you don't even know in the slightest.
Again, do you mind citing anything? Or do you want to keep spouting random frothing at the mouth?WTF are your saying, you don't know shit about why I feel this way about Rogan! I watched enough of Joe Rogan already to know he's an asshole. He actually suggested forcing convicts to be guinea pigs to test vaccines for covid-19 in that video. That's when I turned it off in disgust.
WTF are you talking about? Can you read English? I said Rogan suggested forcing convicts to be vaccine guinea pigs. If you don't find that disgusting, you are one hopeless asshole.Again, do you mind inciting anything? Or do you want to keep spouting random frothing at the mouth?
WTF are you talking about? Can you read English? I said Rogan suggested forcing convicts to be vaccine guinea pigs. If you don't find that disgusting, you are one hopeless asshole.
Joe Rogan: (01:32:30)
How do they test for safety? So once they come up with a potential vaccine, how do they make sure that it's safe?
Michael Osterholm: (01:32:37)
What you do it gradually. First of all, you put it into animals to see and you know enough about them, how their immune responses, what do they do? Then you put it into a few humans, 30 humans. They volunteer willingly knowing to see what kind of reactions they have.
Joe Rogan: (01:32:51)
Why don't we just take really bad people that are in jail and practice on them?
Michael Osterholm: (01:32:55)
Well, I don't know if that's doable here in this country without their informed consent. So I'll just-
Joe Rogan: (01:33:00)
I think Trump can fix that. If anybody, if we have a shot at doing that with any president, it's Trump. Just start with rapists.
Michael Osterholm: (01:33:07)
Yeah. So anyway, the bottom line though is that then they gradually work their way up to larger studies where you know, if something happens, one every 1000 people. You have to study a lot of people before you know that the chance that you might find that. You can't do it in 30 people. So that's why it's going to take awhile. And you know, they'll test it on more and more people and they're going as fast as they can. It's not like there's anybody dragging their feet. It's just that... I jokingly say it's like if the Iowa farmer wanted to harvest his corn in half the time, it doesn't mean by planting twice as many acres, he can do that. You know, planting in April, you still can't harvest until October.
WTF are you talking about? Can you read English? I said Rogan suggested forcing convicts to be vaccine guinea pigs. If you don't find that disgusting, you are one hopeless asshole.Again, do you mind inciting anything? Or do you want to keep spouting random frothing at the mouth?
It's enough for me. I don't like Rogan based on the two videos I watched and couldn't complete because (1) He insisted on going off topic for long streches and (2) He asked stupid questions frequently of his guest and (3) He made a disgusting suggestion. I have better things to do than indulge fools. You can watch or listen to Rogan all you want. I'm done with him.WTF do you know what a question is, or do you just respond to everything with "WTF How DARE you question my statements of judging others for no reason with no evidence"
Christ, do you know what a question is? He asked a question of what the doctor's thoughts were on the concept of testing vaccines on horrible people - e.g. a rapist.
It's a legitimate question to ask a doctor when we are talking about saving the world - But for some reason you just immediately throw judgement that he is saying strap anyone in prison to a chair and injecting tests into any and all people and laughing about it. That clearly wasn't the case and it was clearly a rhetorical question aimed at the doctor's thoughts.
But hey - why use facts when you can use your feelings instead?
Christ, here is the exact transcript. https://www.rev.com/transcript-edit...TmNRmZFRec?loadFrom=PastedDeeplink&ts=5571.03
And by the way - Joe Rogan is completely serious at all times. Every single point in his 3 hours podcasts that he does multiple times per week - he never jokes. SOOPER DOOPER SRS AT ALL TIMES!
So yeah, what else do you have in your belt buckle of things that makes him an asshole? Is that it?
Got it. He doesn't agree with your opinion, that makes someone an asshole by default.WTF are you talking about? Can you read English? I said Rogan suggested forcing convicts to be vaccine guinea pigs. If you don't find that disgusting, you are one hopeless asshole.
It's enough for me. I don't like Rogan based on the two videos I watched and couldn't complete because (1) He insisted on going off topic for long streches and (2) He asked stupid questions frequently of his guest and (3) He made a disgusting suggestion. I have better things to do than indulge fools. You can watch Rogan all you want. I'm done with him.
Anyone who suggests performing medical experiments on unwilling persons is an asshole. End of story. It’s not complicated. Evil too.Got it. He doesn't agree with your opinion, that makes someone an asshole by default.
Man oh man, what partisan times we live in. It's never "Yeah I just disagreed with his logic" or "It wasn't really the type of podcast I like". Nope, it's just straight to he is an asshole.
Sound logic there bud.
Got it. He doesn't agree with your opinion, that makes someone an asshole by default.
Man oh man, what partisan times we live in. It's never "Yeah I just disagreed with his logic" or "It wasn't really the type of podcast I like". Nope, it's just straight to he is an asshole.
Sound logic there bud.
I don't like it. It may undermine attempts to slow it as much as possible to wipe it out with a vaccine. Letting it spread that way is only going to mutate it into a new strain before a vaccine is ready for this strain. We don't need this becoming endemic and changing every year to escape the vaccine (like the flu)!Thoughts on how UK is doing this vs US?
Basically they are saying - If you're high risk, stay home and self-quarantine. If you're young and able, continue life as normal. Basically creating a herd immunity of young people - AND not hurting the economy anywhere remotely close to like other countries.
One of those things of "We will see how it compares" over the next few weeks, but they are definitely doing things differently than other countries.
Seriously, I don't understand what warp-field you guys go through to establish these HARDCORE opinions of folks that you don't even know in the slightest.
