NON_POLITICAL China Coronavirus THREAD

[brainhulk]

I've always thought tylenol was a useless pain med that never worked for me. I've always used Advil for my occasional headaches.

I remember reading at one point that tylenol is a drug that to this day we still don't know how or why it works....

You must be immune to it's placebo effect!

 

[TheVrolok]

I've always thought tylenol was a useless pain med that never worked for me. I've always used Advil for my occasional headaches.

I remember reading at one point that tylenol is a drug that to this day we still don't know how or why it works....

Pretty true! ]We know it works centrally for its anti fever properties, but it's analgesic properties are still a pretty good mystery. We have some ideas, but it's certainly still a lot of shrugs.

 

[K1052]

Was at my local CVS waiting for a scrip to fill and decided to wander down the first aid aisle. Not a mask or glove to be had. The soap/hand sanitizer aisle section was almost wiped out.

 

[nakedfrog]

Decent time to live in BFE, I suppose.

 

[CZroe]

Who wants to save your infected butt? Treating covid-19 infected people is a very onerous task. Seriously, if I thought I had it, I'd consider self-treatment, which is what I have always done for colds, flu, really every infection I've ever had, IIRC. What are they going to do for me that I can't do for myself... short of needing ICU type treatment?

Oxygen. Intubation. Draining the lungs.

 

[CZroe]

Maybe it's like chickenpox where you're better off exposing yourself to get it over with then you're good for life.

...until you get shingles and regret it.

 

[Red Squirrel]

...until you get shingles and regret it.

Yeah I think that's a fairly recent discovery, so chicken pox is probably taken a bit more seriously now I imagine? I think there's a vaccine for it now too. Back when I was a kid if a kid had it all the parents just sent their kids to go play with the kid who had it lol.

I should probably look into the shingles vaccine eventually, I think that's more of a thing for when I'm older though.

 

[DigDog]

So, yesterday the local government of Venice cancelled the local Carnevale, which is a BIG, big tradition for the city and one of the things it is most widely known for; i'm not saying it's as big as in Rio, but, it's big.
Obviously the local press went crazy and the international press picked this up as well. Today i'm getting tons of calls about people wanting to cancel trips to Italy.

So far we've had 10 cases. ONE case in a town outside of Venice, and the rest mostly located in a 2-mile-wide area well outside Milan.

Obviously due to the infectiousness of the virus, if 10 people are visibly ill, this means more will have been exposed. So now the government is spraying disinfectant everywhere, which is good, and, once the already-infected become ill, they will nto have infected anyone else due to the various procedures that are in place. But, headlines such as "ITALY IN THE GRIP OF THE VIRUS" are an exageration.

 

[CZroe]

Yeah I think that's a fairly recent discovery, so chicken pox is probably taken a bit more seriously now I imagine? I think there's a vaccine for it now too. Back when I was a kid if a kid had it all the parents just sent their kids to go play with the kid who had it lol.

I should probably look into the shingles vaccine eventually, I think that's more of a thing for when I'm older though.

Yeah. That's how I got the pox as a kid. Parents were definitely still doing the pox parties in the '80s.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Maybe it's like chickenpox where you're better off exposing yourself to get it over with then you're good for life.

Just don't do it in front of a school.

 

[thestrangebrew1]

I should probably look into the shingles vaccine eventually, I think that's more of a thing for when I'm older though.

My older brother and younger sister both got the chicken pox at the same time but I never did. I decided to look to see when to get the vaccine but it's not recommended until you're at least 50. Still got a few more years I guess.

 

[Perknose]

P&N is THAT WAY* ------------>

Perknose
Forum Director

*Try to keep politics out of this thread, please.

 

[Scarpozzi]

I thought that was aspirin?

Tylenol never did anything for pain for me either, ibuprofen or naproxen do.

It's very effective at reducing fever. If your pain is caused by your temp spiking, it helps there. I used to take it before running marathons because it *helps numb some aches without messing with your kidneys (important when dealing with a precious balance of water and salt during a race). I never wanted my kidneys to be less than optimal.

 

[Mai72]

Anyone preparing for the worst? Stockpiling food? Hoarding large quanties of cash.

 

[Roger Wilco]

In the last 24 hours:

- 443 new confirmed cases outside of China—an increase of 17.78%. This is the highest number in a single day.



- 10 new deaths outside of China—an increase of 26.32%. This is the second-highest number in a single day.



- South Korea, Italy, and Iran continue to experience extreme outbreaks. South Korea alone had 253 new cases.
- Hong Kong is growing steadily, and Singapore and Japan have stagnated for the day.
- New cases throughout the Middle East and Europe emerge via the new outbreaks in Italy and Iran.
- Bahrain went from 0 to 23 cases in 2 days.
- Brazil is likely to be the first South American case confirmed.

 

[herm0016]

Anyone preparing for the worst? Stockpiling food? Hoarding large quanties of cash.

Nothing crazy. But I dont think you will regret being prepared to keep your distance from others.

 

[randay]

Maybe it's like chickenpox where you're better off exposing yourself to get it over with then you're good for life.

plot twist "for life" is a much shorter time span than they thought.

 

[zinfamous]

Are we at 12 Monkeys yet?

 

[Ichinisan]

It's always raining somewhere, so what? There hasn't been a drop of rain here since Jan. 28. If we don't get any by Saturday, it will be the first 100% dry February since 1864. Can you say climate crisis?

Not enough water vapor I suppose. Could use some more heat...

 

[Muse]

...until you get shingles and regret it.

I had both. Don't remember the chicken pox, the shingles, well, just remember it got seriously itchy, guess there were painful times. It was difficult. I got over it. I later got vaccinated for it. You can get it again, you see.

Evidently it's possible to get covid-19 again, too. We really do need to work hard on getting a vaccine ASAP.

 

[Muse]

Not enough water vapor I suppose. Could use some more heat...

We are predicted to not get a drop of rain until at least Sunday. That would mean we didn't get a drop in February, first time that's happened since 1864, over 150 years. Plus, it's a leap year, that increases the odds against, obviously.

 

[Ichinisan]

How is your brother? Did he make it back okay?

Back in USA (Atlanta area) since late PM on February 16. I'm still feeling fine.

I could be incubating something though. You never know.

I think the connecting flight from IST to ATL was ~12 hours. I sat next to a guy who appeared to be from India. He was coughing his lungs out the entire time. He never even once tried to cover his mouth. D:

 

[Muse]

My older brother and younger sister both got the chicken pox at the same time but I never did. I decided to look to see when to get the vaccine but it's not recommended until you're at least 50. Still got a few more years I guess.

I came down with shingles when I was 50. Hadn't been vaccinated.

 

[Mai72]

Imagine logging onto ATOT in 6 months and no one is here any more.

 

[pmv]

Panic has gone mainstream! It's escaped internet forums and reached the phone-ins!

Heard a ranting caller yesterday demanding we should, I quote, "seal the Channel" (why? Is it leaking? Do we need some silicone caulk?). That was just one of the shouty harbinger-of-doom types. They all have a kind of self-important tone, like they see it as a chance to feel dramatic and important, the only one to fully understand the situation and who should be put in charge (or to further an existing anti-immigration agenda?)

But I alternate between feeling embarrased about my own nervousness when I hear the over-the-top ranters (who sort of shame me by reflecting my own fears back at me in extreme form), and feeling less-than-fully-reassured by the authorities declaring that it's all under control and/or no worse than flu.

The biggest doubt I have about it, is the question of what proportion of people who are infected by this, end up being hospitalised, and in turn what proportion need intensive care? If it spreads widely, even if the fatality rate is less than the presumably extremely-unreliable estimate of 2%, just how much strain is it going to put on the medical system?

Also, Iran's reported figures seem seriously implausible. They officially only have a little over 100 cases, but admit to nearly 20 deaths and Infected Iranians keep popping up across the middle-east in other countries' figures. To me, it seems that if it's spread to your deputy health minister, you've probably got more than 139 cases in the country.