NON_POLITICAL China Coronavirus THREAD

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sportage

Lifer
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Seems to be spreading more than anyone will admit.
Iran, North Korea, and who knows where.
They won't tell us because they don't want the market to react.
And Chelsea Clinton says Donald Trump is too ignorant to handle the pending crisis.
What I want to know is.....
WHAT does Donald Trump REALLY want that 2.5 billion for?
To spy on his political enemies?
More Trump MEGA hats?
Tax cuts for his rich donors?
WHAT is he really up to?
 

CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
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What I want to know is.....
WHAT does Donald Trump REALLY want that 2.5 billion for?
To spy on his political enemies?
More Trump MEGA hats?
Tax cuts for his rich donors?
WHAT is he really up to?

The "lost containment of an engineered bioweapon" conspiracy theories weren't ridiculous enough for you?
 

pmv

Lifer
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WHAT does Donald Trump REALLY want that 2.5 billion for?
To spy on his political enemies?
More Trump MEGA hats?
Tax cuts for his rich donors?
WHAT is he really up to?

To feel important? To be able to make a big gesture of 'doing something'?

That seems one of his main motivators in general.
 

local

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Anyone here want to work as a nurse in Wuhan? Apparently a country of nearly 1.4 billion people has completely run out of available nurses after treating a mere 64,786 patients in Hubei province/Wuhan. Sounds like an adventure of a lifetime!

(DISCLAIMER: actually it is hell on Earth)

Chinese medical staff request international medical assistance in fighting against COVID-19

They have 1.4 billion people, time to start conscripting some of them as nurses. At a certain point a good portion of the work becomes routine and should be easily broken down into quickly trainable tasks. Leave the complicated stuff and decision making to the pro nurses.

Other countries should probably start getting plans in place for that as well.
 
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eRacer

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To feel important? To be able to make a big gesture of 'doing something'?

That seems one of his main motivators in general.
So if Trump doesn't ask for money it's because he's a stupid meanie whose incompetence will kill Americans.
And if Trump asks for lots money it means he is some selfish ahole just in it for personal glory, or he's going to use the money himself for nefarious purposes.
This is why Trump will continue to do Trump things and ignore his critics, for better or worse.

South Carolina Democratic debate tonight. Any Democrat candidate that cares about America will be talking about their pandemic policies tonight (especially related to health care for coronavirus patients). If they don't, they simply don't care, or *cue conspiracy* are hiding some painful truths from you.

Free coronavirus testing and treatment is what should be proposed...and not as part of massive overall health care reform AFTER the nominee becomes president. January 2021 is far too late to start taking action. Let's hear about what bills Democrats are writing in the House and Senate NOW (other than the CDC $2.5 billion which is already known) to make sure people who may be infected with coronavirus aren't scared to go to the doctor or hospital because of costs. Let's hear from the senators and the mayor what they are doing on a state and local level to prevent the spread and prepare for the sick. Let's hear how the billionaire Democratic candidates are going to donate hundreds of millions or billions of dollars of their own wealth to helping America through a crisis or using their wealth for crisis prevention and preparedness. And finally, I want the candidates to not just say what government should be doing to prepare, but telling the audience what they should be doing on a personal level to be ready.
 
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pmv

Lifer
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So if Trump doesn't ask for money it's because he's a stupid meanie whose incompetence will kill Americans.
And if Trump asks for lots money it means he is some selfish ahole just in it for personal glory, or he's going to use the money himself for nefarious purposes.
This is why Trump will continue to do Trump things and ignore his critics, for better or worse.

Pretty clear that that's how Trump rolls. See also his blowing-hot-and-cold foreign policy. He likes big gestures and to feel macho, but doesn't really have the concentration span or confidence to follow things through. Which is not necessarily a bad thing in every case.
 
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CZroe

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RIP Iran. Ironic that this news conference was to meant convince the Iranian public the situation wasn't as bad as rumors suggested.

Where did you get that context? In the Twitter app all I get is a 90 second clip in Iranian with no subtitles.

Edit: OK. I see it. Dude was clearly not feeling well and it's now confirmed that he was infected.
 
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pmv

Lifer
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South Carolina Democratic debate tonight. Any Democrat candidate that cares about America will be talking about their pandemic policies tonight (especially related to health care for coronavirus patients). If they don't, they simply don't care, or *cue conspiracy* are hiding some painful truths from you.

Free coronavirus testing and treatment is what should be proposed...and not as part of massive overall health care reform AFTER the nominee becomes president. January 2021 is far too late to start taking action. Let's hear about what bills Democrats are writing in the House and Senate NOW (other than the CDC $2.5 billion which is already known) to make sure people who may be infected with coronavirus aren't scared to go to the doctor or hospital because of costs. Let's hear from the senators and the mayor what they are doing on a state and local level to prevent the spread and prepare for the sick. Let's hear how the billionaire Democratic candidates are going to donate hundreds of millions or billions of dollars of their own wealth to helping America through a crisis or using their wealth for crisis prevention and preparedness. And finally, I want the candidates to not just say what government should be doing to prepare, but telling the audience what they should be doing on a personal level to be ready.

Surely there's only one 'Billionaire Democratic candidate'? And he's really a right-wing (and uber-hawk) Republican and shouldn't be there at all.

I have no idea whether cornoavirus testing should be widely available on demand, the whole issue of testing in general seems a complicated technical one, depending on costs and dangers of false negatives and false positives, and you need medical experts to decide the question.

But if you are calling for a socialised free-at-the-point-of-use health-care system, I'm not going to disagree. I'm more concerned about the Tories slow-motion dismantling of the one we already have here.
 
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nakedfrog

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So if Trump doesn't ask for money it's because he's a stupid meanie whose incompetence will kill Americans.
And if Trump asks for lots money it means he is some selfish ahole just in it for personal glory, or he's going to use the money himself for nefarious purposes.
This is why Trump will continue to do Trump things and ignore his critics, for better or worse.

LOL
I mean, he IS a selfish asshole that only does basically anything for his personal glory.
I'm not really commenting on his handling of this specific scenario, just making sure you were aware of that fact in case by some miracle you weren't previously.
 
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Roger Wilco

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New cases are popping up throughout the ME and Europe; expect this trend to continue. Also, expect the stock market to continue tanking.
 

Red Squirrel

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I have no idea whether cornoavirus testing should be widely available on demand, the whole issue of testing in general seems a complicated technical one, depending on costs and dangers of false negatives and false positives, and you need medical experts to decide the question.

I know that you aren't suggesting it, but it shouldn't be.
 

sdifox

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eRacer

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Surely there's only one 'Billionaire Democratic candidate'? And he's really a right-wing (and uber-hawk) Republican and shouldn't be there at all.
Tom Steyer is a billionaire as well.

Bloomberg is wasting $1+ billion of his own wealth in advertising to offset his numerous character flaws. He could be a "hero" and show strong leadership by pledging $1+ billion of his own wealth toward coronavirus efforts should the US need it.

I have no idea whether cornoavirus testing should be widely available on demand, the whole issue of testing in general seems a complicated technical one, depending on costs and dangers of false negatives and false positives, and you need medical experts to decide the question.
I've seen that testing costs about $300, so a million tests is only $300 million dollars. Costs are nothing compared to typical US government waste, and catching cases early that otherwise could be missed can save billions of dollars in future health care costs and lost productivity due to lock downs. Consider it a jobs program or stimulus package for the economy, rather than a cost. The biggest problem is ramp-up needed for test kit production, facilities and personnel.

But if you are calling for a socialised free-at-the-point-of-use health-care system, I'm not going to disagree. I'm more concerned about the Tories slow-motion dismantling of the one we already have here.
I see reports in Europe of people being refused testing despite having a higher than average risk of infection due to their travel history or others they've come into contact with. The US is disappointed with high health care costs and lack of coronavirus testing. I'd be pretty disappointed with my "free" healthcare system if it allows a pandemic to rage through the country because widespread testing is "too expensive".
 

Svnla

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Since when this is become another P&N thread?

Latest news -

World - Over 80,000 cases of infection around the world with over 2,700 deaths. Italy has over 280 infections, Iran has over 95 (14 deaths), and S. Korea has over 970 (at least 11 deaths). Austria has first cases (2 for now). Croatia has first case (1 for now). More new cases are reported in Hong Kong and Taiwan and Kuwait and others.

Events are being cancelled around the world. Only 30% of small businesses in mainland china have reopened.

US - Stock market is still down. San Antonio reports 6 new cases.