NON_POLITICAL China Coronavirus THREAD

[PlanetJosh]

The big national news conference about the virus at around 6:45 est said, well I can't really talk about it, but I can say the blonde or platinum blonde lady of high rank in the CDC is kind of cute and she said the virus is ..

 

[Scarpozzi]

The cruise ship is probably the best bet for getting some statistics even if the data set isn't big enough.

Avg age of cruisers? Probably 60-65 years old. Not sure they represent a good cross section of health...but who knows.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Over when? This could easily last a year.

You just answered your own question. If it's a year, or two years or whatever, it will recover at some point after then. People are funny how they panic when the stock market goes down. It's actually a good time to buy, just don't sell, and you lose nothing.

 

[K1052]

This sounds extremely sub optimal

https://twitter.com/x/status/1232869886189129729

 

[Muse]

aside from masks,clorox,wipes, lysol etc. What would be a reasonable amount of canned & dry food to have on hand? 30-45days worth?

I saw where they say 70% alcohol is also effective. If that's true I'd use that instead of anything that contains Chlorine.

I already have that much food on hand. Seems to me there's no way to know how this thing is going to progress. Therefore I see no upper limit on the food storage equation.

I remember learning about a guy who was a traumatized holocaust survivor (may have been a severely deprived POW in Asia). He faced near starvation for a prolonged period. It was a documentary. After release and assimilation in the USA, he didn't become a fatso, but he did have an obsession with having quite a larder! I mean, he must have had 2 years worth of food stashed away in his house, maybe a lot more. In the documentary he pulled up boards in the floor and underneath revealed a vast stash of food.

 

[Muse]

You should ALWAYS have 60 days regardless of any 'current events'.

I've never figure it out, how many days worth of food I have, but I have figured it's way more than most people. For one thing, I cook for myself more than most. I have a bread making machine. I buy flour in bulk, 25lb bags, and 5lb bags of whole wheat flour (doesn't keep as well as white flour, so don't buy a ton of that at once, maybe 2 bags and store in cool/dry cupboard).

I have a fair amount of canned food, although my doctor said to not buy canned food! Still, some I do buy... canned corn, tuna.

I have canned just gallons and gallons of tomato sauce products, hot sauce, Italian sauce. I have canned gallons and gallons of kabocha based soup.

I buy 25lb bags of pinto beans, 15lb bags of brown rice.

I figure good to stock up in case of earthquake, didn't occur to me to have as protection from epidemic conditions.

I'm going to Costco in 5 days. Wonder if I will see signs of people stocking up.

 

[DigDog]

bit of an update;

the current total of confirmed cases is 400 in Italy; seven deaths.

 

[Mai72]

When will it hit the eastern seaboard? I live in NJ.

 

[Mai72]

My question is: If the fatality rate is very low why is there so much worry? The common flu has a much higher death rate, yet I don't see people freaking out over it.

Shouldn't we just go on about our day. If it strikes, it will mostly be fine. You'll get sick, and that will be it. You might not even get sick, or just have a low grade fever. You have to wonder how much the news is hyping up fears about this virus. The point is you'll probablly die from a car accident then this virus.

 

[Captante]

When will it hit the eastern seaboard? I live in NJ.

Pretty sure it already has and we just have not seen symptoms in showing yet.

 

[TheVrolok]

My question is: If the fatality rate is very low why is there so much worry? The common flu has a much higher death rate, yet I don't see people freaking out over it.

Shouldn't we just go on about our day. If it strikes, it will mostly be fine. You'll get sick, and that will be it. You might not even get sick, or just have a low grade fever. You have to wonder how much the news is hyping up fears about this virus. The point is you'll probablly die from a car accident then this virus.

Because people love drama(ok ok, fear of the unknown), and to yourself second paragraph absolutely yes to everything.

 

[Scarpozzi]

My question is: If the fatality rate is very low why is there so much worry? The common flu has a much higher death rate, yet I don't see people freaking out over it.

Shouldn't we just go on about our day. If it strikes, it will mostly be fine. You'll get sick, and that will be it. You might not even get sick, or just have a low grade fever. You have to wonder how much the news is hyping up fears about this virus. The point is you'll probablly die from a car accident then this virus.

Wait. Has the disease gone car-born now? Is that what you're saying? Now do we have permission to panic?

 

[Mai72]

Because people love drama(ok ok, fear of the unknown), and to yourself second paragraph absolutely yes to everything.

IMO, it has more to do with the economy. But who knows.

 

[TheVrolok]

IMO, it has more to do with the economy. But who knows.

People aren't talking about getting masks and hand sanitizer because of the economy.

 

[Muse]

When will it hit the eastern seaboard? I live in NJ.

Just a guess... 2-3 weeks.

 

[Muse]

My question is: If the fatality rate is very low why is there so much worry? The common flu has a much higher death rate, yet I don't see people freaking out over it.

Shouldn't we just go on about our day. If it strikes, it will mostly be fine. You'll get sick, and that will be it. You might not even get sick, or just have a low grade fever. You have to wonder how much the news is hyping up fears about this virus. The point is you'll probablly die from a car accident then this virus.

You're misinformed. The "common flu" as you call it (it's never the same, always mutating) has a death rate (I assume average) of 1/10th of 1%. This covid-19 virus has a probable death rate of 0.2-0.5%, so that's at least 2-5x higher death rate. On top of the higher death rate is the fact that it's quite a bit more contagious than the flu. It's pretty extremely contagious. Maybe not as much as measles, which is highly contagious, but just look at the stuff that people are wearing who are dealing with this. They are not being casual, they are donning suits, respirators, face masks, goggles, etc. that look pretty inconvenient and uncomfortable.

Most people won't suffer seriously, but maybe 15% will. That's a lot of people potentially seriously ill and needing treatment for a disease that's highly contagious.

This has the potential to disrupt our society pretty drastically area by area for unpredictable periods of time. School closures, plant closures, restrictions. In some places there have been lockdowns, shutting down the mobility of the populace.

 

[CZroe]

When will it hit the eastern seaboard? I live in NJ.

Likely already has but we won't know until the incubation periods finish for the first wave of exposures.

 

[CZroe]

My question is: If the fatality rate is very low why is there so much worry? The common flu has a much higher death rate, yet I don't see people freaking out over it.

Shouldn't we just go on about our day. If it strikes, it will mostly be fine. You'll get sick, and that will be it. You might not even get sick, or just have a low grade fever. You have to wonder how much the news is hyping up fears about this virus. The point is you'll probablly die from a car accident then this virus.

The common flu does not have a "much higher death rate." Not even close. Maybe the 1918 Pandemic "Spanish" Flu. The only authoritative people who ever said that changed their tune back in January when they realized China's numbers were a joke and they were fools for ever believing them.

 

[sdifox]

at this point it might be easier to do 2 week holiday for the planet

 

[MtnMan]

My question is: If the fatality rate is very low why is there so much worry? The common flu has a much higher death rate, yet I don't see people freaking out over it.

Shouldn't we just go on about our day. If it strikes, it will mostly be fine. You'll get sick, and that will be it. You might not even get sick, or just have a low grade fever. You have to wonder how much the news is hyping up fears about this virus. The point is you'll probablly die from a car accident then this virus.

This is the problem with the internet and wrong information, it makes us stupid as a society.

The morality rate for the flu is 0.1% - (that's like 1 out of every 1,000)
The morality rate for Coronavirus is 2% to 4% - (that's like 20 to 40 out of every 1000)

 

[noscop3]

as it has been said before,thousands will die,billions will live.The ones who died already had other health problems and that's why they died.Even if you get it,unless you have other serious health issues or are 80 years old,you'll be fine.Also please for the love of god don't panick like the other people who are buying food for the next half an year,just turn the fake news on your TV off and relax.

 

[Captante]

Just a guess... 2-3 weeks.

Sounds like a pretty good guess to me.

 

[Denly]

Pretty sure Jap/China are faking # at this point, when Iran have more cases than Jap and SK upped more than China something don't add up. Or if you go by their # the outbreak will be done in 3weeks.

 

[sdifox]

This is the problem with the internet and wrong information, it makes us stupid as a society.

The morality rate for the flu is 0.1% - (that's like 1 out of every 1,000)
The morality rate for Coronavirus is 2% to 4% - (that's like 20 to 40 out of every 1000)

too early to say that 2-4% is definitive. I mean we have had many years of dealing with seasonal flu so the protocol is well defined. Covid 19 is just too new. we don't even know how many of the ones dying in China are even getting any medical care.

 

[Captante]

Pretty sure Jap/China are faking # at this point, when Iran have more cases than Jap and SK upped more than China something don't add up. Or if you go by their # the outbreak will be done in 3weeks.

Captain Obvious? That You??