yep, broken pins on mobo is much more a headache than on CPU......Those pins are better than LGA for the consumer market. More broken motherboards are coming with warped pins than broken pins on CPUs.
yep, broken pins on mobo is much more a headache than on CPU......Those pins are better than LGA for the consumer market. More broken motherboards are coming with warped pins than broken pins on CPUs.
I've never had a problem with LGA though.yep, broken pins on mobo is much more a headache than on CPU......
I would guess that warping is from the small overclocking community, and further limited to heavy CPU coolers.Those pins are better than LGA for the consumer market. More broken motherboards are coming with warped pins than broken pins on CPUs.
^^ This.I've never had a problem with LGA though.
I've had many problems with bent CPU pins.
I don't want to deal with CPU pins anymore.
Not in my experience.Motherboard pins break much easier. CPU pins bent but is easier to repair.
While I generally agree, Windows licenses are tied to your motherboard, and that can level the playing field a bit.In the majority of DIY situations, the CPU is the more expensive of the two parts, so it makes sense to put the more delicate part on the cheaper side.
Looks like AMD farmed out IMC design, which . . . kinda sucks. At least it'll support some memory overclocking beyond DDR4-2400. You have to wonder whether DDR4-2933 will be enough for 8c/16t in only two channels.And here i was expecting ddr4>3000mhz
Even Cannonlake isn't 3000 Mhz I think. So it's not a big deal.And here i was expecting ddr4>3000mhz
Officially. But recent rumor is stating that Kabylake will support DDR 4000+.Even Cannonlake isn't 3000 Mhz I think. So it's not a big deal.
That's a great point, I bought a retail version of Windows just to avoid that problem, and it's already proved its worth.While I generally agree, Windows licenses are tied to your motherboard, and that can level the playing field a bit.
Skylake already supports in the excess of DDR4 4000.Officially. But recent rumor is stating that Kabylake will support DDR 4000+.
Why is there such a low cap on AMD processors for memory?
No it doesn't, it only supports 2133. You can overclock higher than that, but it's not supported.Skylake already supports in the excess of DDR4 4000.
Wrong.No it doesn't, it only supports 2133. You can overclock higher than that, but it's not supported.
That is for overclocked ram per motherboard. The header should have given that away. Nice that the memory can be overclocked like that and all, but the max supported un-overclocked speed is 2133 per Intel's Ark Info.
If the AM4 pins are as robust as the pins on the current FX chips...The problem is that even your finger can break the fragile LGA contacts. But the CPU itself is breakproof.
I had both AM3 and AM3+ processors and their pins was much, much harder to break.
I think it's just another angle to pick on something. After over 40 years of computer repairs and upgrades, I've discovered that if you're sober and pay attention then things don't get bent.Is everyone here on the clumsy side or why is it an issue to have pins on the board instead of the CPU?
I mean sheesh...people trying to find all kinds of reasons to nitpick. If you handle the CPU and Board properly...how is anything gonna bend? The only time I ever saw a bent pin was when a friend tried to build a PC and dropped the CPU...but you don't generally drop whole motherboards in a way that they would land on their pins.....
I mean...generally you don't drop anything...but yea.
Funny how his argument flip-flops, depending on whether you're talking about Windows 7, or DDR4-4000. (Claiming that Windows 7 is "unsupported" and "legacy", when docs clearly list it as a supported platform for Skylake, at least in Intel's video drivers.)No it doesn't, it only supports 2133. You can overclock higher than that, but it's not supported.
I was just pointing out that in case of AMD, even with AM4 the max speed is DDR4-2400, overclocked. Non overclocked its DDR4-2400.No it doesn't, it only supports 2133. You can overclock higher than that, but it's not supported.
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