I guess the difference would be size and design....and you are forgetting the RAM, even though the mini only ocmes with 256, just thought Id point it out.
I guess the difference would be size and design....and you are forgetting the RAM, even though the mini only ocmes with 256, just thought Id point it out.
0roo0roo
No Lifer
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you are freekin retarded.
EVERYONE knows macs blow at gaming, and upgrading. thats not the POINT of this computer.
and this mac mini COMES with more cool programs then there are for windows. its called ilife 05. overpriced? wow, you are the noob.
Siddhartha
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Re-read the post. I looks like sarcasm to me.
Okay, is the appeal of this thing is haing the ability to join the Mac world for only $499?
these are going to make apple rich. i mean, we are on a hardcore PC user forum, and 3/4 of u are saying that you would like to own one lol.
very cool computer, but dont diss it because it cant do something its not ment to do. i love macs but i probably couldnt get by without my XP system just because im a gamer.
the ipod shuffle looks alright, but again...dont turn it into something its not ment to be. its for active people that cant look at a screen to change the song anyway, so they can just use this. this has no competition right now, apple will get rich off of these too.
now, we sit and watch all the other companies copy apple...again
very cool computer, but dont diss it because it cant do something its not ment to do. i love macs but i probably couldnt get by without my XP system just because im a gamer.
the ipod shuffle looks alright, but again...dont turn it into something its not ment to be. its for active people that cant look at a screen to change the song anyway, so they can just use this. this has no competition right now, apple will get rich off of these too.
now, we sit and watch all the other companies copy apple...again
IAteYourMother
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I think it's the ultmate STFU device to those who repeatedly claim macs are expensive.
And guys, don't just look at the hardware specs, it's more about the software on the apple machines. Once you've owned a mac a "stable" operating system is no longer a selling point. That's like someone trying to sell you a new car and claiming it won't randomly burst into flames: it's to be expected.
Great work from apple. The iPod shuffle is great for sportspeople and apple can now get right into the flash-based player market. Also, you don't need to use iTunes for the shuffle: a few people were crying about the fact that you're forced to use iTunes with the other pods, even though it's clearly the best for organising large collections.
I'm proper happy about these moves, nice one steve + pals
And guys, don't just look at the hardware specs, it's more about the software on the apple machines. Once you've owned a mac a "stable" operating system is no longer a selling point. That's like someone trying to sell you a new car and claiming it won't randomly burst into flames: it's to be expected.
Great work from apple. The iPod shuffle is great for sportspeople and apple can now get right into the flash-based player market. Also, you don't need to use iTunes for the shuffle: a few people were crying about the fact that you're forced to use iTunes with the other pods, even though it's clearly the best for organising large collections.
I'm proper happy about these moves, nice one steve + pals
i like this mac. no, i probably wouldn't use it as my main system, but it'd be great for an HTPC. just need a tv that has DVI... or get a vga convertor (yeah yeah, terrible quality, but it'd work.. heh)
MetalMat
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No, I just really dont like MACs much
I know a bit of people around here with Macs and I was just never impressed, they just seem like overpriced computers that people get cause they wanna be different. People are always like "Apples rule at video editing" and I say BS, I have seen what they can do and our machines at work smoke anything that have seen done by an apple and our machines cost less (I do video editing all the time at my job).
I will say that the MAC OS is better than anything before XP, sure smoked the crap out of 98 and ME. However, after using XP I gotta say that it is fairly rock solid.
The only thing I will give credit to on the new mini is the fact that it is at a decent price for anybody who for some reason wants to go the route of macintosh. But dosen't companies like Dell offer more powerful machines for less money with the monitor included (even though much less stylish)?
In the end I kind of compare a macintosh to my old Mazda RX-7, sure I loved the (in fact best car I ever had) car but it was impractical cause of the rotary engine and there was not nearly as much support for the car as for say a Toyota Supra. So would I go with the Mazda RX-7 or RX-8? Probably not cause it would cost too much money to fix the cars.
Originally posted by: MetalMat
No, I just really dont like MACs much
I know a bit of people around here with Macs and I was just never impressed, they just seem like overpriced computers that people get cause they wanna be different. People are always like "Apples rule at video editing" and I say BS, I have seen what they can do and our machines at work smoke anything that have seen done by an apple and our machines cost less (I do video editing all the time at my job).
I will say that the MAC OS is better than anything before XP, sure smoked the crap out of 98 and ME. However, after using XP I gotta say that it is fairly rock solid.
The only thing I will give credit to on the new mini is the fact that it is at a decent price for anybody who for some reason wants to go the route of macintosh. But dosen't companies like Dell offer more powerful machines for less money with the monitor included (even though much less stylish)?
In the end I kind of compare a macintosh to my old Mazda RX-7, sure I loved the (in fact best car I ever had) car but it was impractical cause of the rotary engine and there was not nearly as much support for the car as for say a Toyota Supra. So would I go with the Mazda RX-7 or RX-8? Probably not cause it would cost too much money to fix the cars.
I was all Windows up until this summer. I finally got fed up w. the fact that XP caused me to reformat 3 times over the course of 12 months. That I had crash after crash. Yes, it's more stable than the others. But still too many not respondings. And the reformats were killer.
In the 6+ months I've had my powerbook/OS X, I have only had to restart on account of a crash once.
MetalMat
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Originally posted by: NakaNaka
Originally posted by: MetalMat
No, I just really dont like MACs much
I know a bit of people around here with Macs and I was just never impressed, they just seem like overpriced computers that people get cause they wanna be different. People are always like "Apples rule at video editing" and I say BS, I have seen what they can do and our machines at work smoke anything that have seen done by an apple and our machines cost less (I do video editing all the time at my job).
I will say that the MAC OS is better than anything before XP, sure smoked the crap out of 98 and ME. However, after using XP I gotta say that it is fairly rock solid.
The only thing I will give credit to on the new mini is the fact that it is at a decent price for anybody who for some reason wants to go the route of macintosh. But dosen't companies like Dell offer more powerful machines for less money with the monitor included (even though much less stylish)?
In the end I kind of compare a macintosh to my old Mazda RX-7, sure I loved the (in fact best car I ever had) car but it was impractical cause of the rotary engine and there was not nearly as much support for the car as for say a Toyota Supra. So would I go with the Mazda RX-7 or RX-8? Probably not cause it would cost too much money to fix the cars.
I was all Windows up until this summer. I finally got fed up w. the fact that XP caused me to reformat 3 times over the course of 12 months. That I had crash after crash. Yes, it's more stable than the others. But still too many not respondings. And the reformats were killer.
In the 6+ months I've had my powerbook/OS X, I have only had to restart on account of a crash once.
I could understand if that happened to me, I would be pissed too. However, I might just be cause I never have problems with windows xp machines unless it is virus related or spamware related.
DougK62
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Funny that a shiny, pretty package gets everyone excited. How is this any different than taking a laptop Mac, cutting out the LCD, keyboard, and mouse and positioning the remaining package into a cube?
I can buy a used Mac laptop for the same price and get a TON more functionality.
I can buy a used Mac laptop for the same price and get a TON more functionality.
Originally posted by: MetalMat
No, I just really dont like MACs much
I know a bit of people around here with Macs and I was just never impressed, they just seem like overpriced computers that people get cause they wanna be different. People are always like "Apples rule at video editing" and I say BS, I have seen what they can do and our machines at work smoke anything that have seen done by an apple and our machines cost less (I do video editing all the time at my job).
I will say that the MAC OS is better than anything before XP, sure smoked the crap out of 98 and ME. However, after using XP I gotta say that it is fairly rock solid.
The only thing I will give credit to on the new mini is the fact that it is at a decent price for anybody who for some reason wants to go the route of macintosh. But dosen't companies like Dell offer more powerful machines for less money with the monitor included (even though much less stylish)?
In the end I kind of compare a macintosh to my old Mazda RX-7, sure I loved the (in fact best car I ever had) car but it was impractical cause of the rotary engine and there was not nearly as much support for the car as for say a Toyota Supra. So would I go with the Mazda RX-7 or RX-8? Probably not cause it would cost too much money to fix the cars.
It's Mac, not MAC.
They're not overpriced for what you get with them.
Not sure what you claim to be using that 'smokes' a mac, because it seems you're using XP which is a 32 bit OS whereas MacOS is 64, running on 64bit G5 processors = huge amount more memory addresses = huge amount more available memory. Plus of course MacOS and the video editing software that runs on it (premiere, etc) has full dual processor functionality built in so it can make use of the dual CPUs much more effectivly. If your hardware was so sweet, I wonder why Viginia tech didn't use it to make the world's third most powerful supercomputer:
link.
Or why the army didn't buy it, and chose the macs instead: link
Trying to claim that XP is ok because it is 'fairly rock solid' is like trying to claim your car is ok because it doesn't randomly explode. An operating system should ALWAYS be solid. It is not a selling point, it is a basic requirement. The fact is we're so used to windows being shoddy that we're actually impressed when it reaches the minimum standard.
MacOS X isn't amazing because it doesn't crash often, it's a huge list of features that makes it superior to any other OS out there.
The mini is fantastic. Sure you could pick up a dell, but you'd no doubt be running windows which is a poor operating system (see above).
As for support, well, what do you mean by support? Less hardware available? Macs come with USB2, 802.11G, 1394, DV out, a 56k and have audio built in, so you won't need to buy any of that hardware. What else are you thinking? Graphics cards? You can get pretty much all of the latest GPU's in Mac format no problem (They're AGP inside there). HD's? They support regular ATA or SATA drives. TV cards? they're available, no problem. Basically hardware support is not an issue.
Or are you talking about company support? Well you won't get a virus and much less likely to get any kind of system error with a mac. They defrag on the fly and maintain themselves in the background silently. Chances are you won't need support; I've never needed it. The support is amazing, however, even if you do get a problem (some hardware fails, it's unavoidable).
Overall you pay a little more initially, but you do save in the long run. They are top-notch machines and the only downfall is gaming, which is improving rapidly.
MetalMat
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Originally posted by: loic2003
Originally posted by: MetalMat
No, I just really dont like MACs much
I know a bit of people around here with Macs and I was just never impressed, they just seem like overpriced computers that people get cause they wanna be different. People are always like "Apples rule at video editing" and I say BS, I have seen what they can do and our machines at work smoke anything that have seen done by an apple and our machines cost less (I do video editing all the time at my job).
I will say that the MAC OS is better than anything before XP, sure smoked the crap out of 98 and ME. However, after using XP I gotta say that it is fairly rock solid.
The only thing I will give credit to on the new mini is the fact that it is at a decent price for anybody who for some reason wants to go the route of macintosh. But dosen't companies like Dell offer more powerful machines for less money with the monitor included (even though much less stylish)?
In the end I kind of compare a macintosh to my old Mazda RX-7, sure I loved the (in fact best car I ever had) car but it was impractical cause of the rotary engine and there was not nearly as much support for the car as for say a Toyota Supra. So would I go with the Mazda RX-7 or RX-8? Probably not cause it would cost too much money to fix the cars.
It's Mac, not MAC.
They're not overpriced for what you get with them.
Not sure what you claim to be using that 'smokes' a mac, because it seems you're using XP which is a 32 bit OS whereas MacOS is 64, running on 64bit G5 processors = huge amount more memory addresses = huge amount more available memory. Plus of course MacOS and the video editing software that runs on it (premiere, etc) has full dual processor functionality built in so it can make use of the dual CPUs much more effectivly. If your hardware was so sweet, I wonder why Viginia tech didn't use it to make the world's third most powerful supercomputer:
link.
Or why the army didn't buy it, and chose the macs instead: link
Trying to claim that XP is ok because it is 'fairly rock solid' is like trying to claim your car is ok because it doesn't randomly explode. An operating system should ALWAYS be solid. It is not a selling point, it is a basic requirement. The fact is we're so used to windows being shoddy that we're actually impressed when it reaches the minimum standard.
MacOS X isn't amazing because it doesn't crash often, it's a huge list of features that makes it superior to any other OS out there.
The mini is fantastic. Sure you could pick up a dell, but you'd no doubt be running windows which is a poor operating system (see above).
As for support, well, what do you mean by support? Less hardware available? Macs come with USB2, 802.11G, 1394, DV out, a 56k and have audio built in, so you won't need to buy any of that hardware. What else are you thinking? Graphics cards? You can get pretty much all of the latest GPU's in Mac format no problem (They're AGP inside there). HD's? They support regular ATA or SATA drives. TV cards? they're available, no problem. Basically hardware support is not an issue.
Or are you talking about company support? Well you won't get a virus and much less likely to get any kind of system error with a mac. They defrag on the fly and maintain themselves in the background silently. Chances are you won't need support; I've never needed it. The support is amazing, however, even if you do get a problem (some hardware fails, it's unavoidable).
Overall you pay a little more initially, but you do save in the long run. They are top-notch machines and the only downfall is gaming, which is improving rapidly.
Alright Steve Jobs, thanks for the sales pitch. And I am soooo sorry for saying MAC instead of Mac
:roll:
I'm glad the new Mac Mini doesn't come with a mouse.
That way all of the people who complain that Macs only have one mouse button will shut up and learn that ANY USB mouse works with a Mac.
That way all of the people who complain that Macs only have one mouse button will shut up and learn that ANY USB mouse works with a Mac.
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