New allegatiions: Obama Birth Certificate Forged

[MomentsofSanity]

btw, I particularly like the idea that the President of the United States is incapable of finding anyone competent enough to forge a document that apparently anyone with a computer and Foxit reader can determine is a forgery.

And that's where this conversation should begin and end.

 

[Vic]

A lot of the GOP fundraising for the mid terms is being driven by promises of impeachment. The problem though is that they don't have a crime to pin on the President, so they just keep rehashing the same old debunked and irrelevant bullshit to keep the base believing and donating.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

And that's where this conversation should begin and end.

Obama has a bad staff. He really needs to get way smarter people working for him. Like me.

 

[Spungo]

Why?

Why are you trying to make Biden President of the US?

Biden seems like an honest guy. If he said some crap about Iran having nuclear weapons, I might actually believe him. Obama comes across as a pathological liar. He's incapable of telling the truth. Obama is probably one of those guys who lies for no reason in everyday conversation. You know what I'm talking about. Everyone has met at least 1 person who lies constantly for no reason. They make up dumb stories about being a black belt in kung fu and they won some cage fighting tournament in Vietnam.

The problem though is that they don't have a crime to pin on the President

You need to give the president props for thinking ahead. When Nixon was the president, he would disregard the law and do whatever the hell he wanted. Bush and Obama plan ahead. They passed laws saying it's legal to do whatever the hell they want, tap phones, break into your house without a warrant, put GPS tracking on your car, subpoena your phone records without probable cause, etc.

 

[Bowfinger]

It's said to be a site of mostly fake news, there to make money by generating traffic.

http://www.marinij.com/rosskentfiel...-marin-student-uses-social-media-power-growth

That's hilarious. Barnum was right.

 

[Vic]

You need to give the president props for thinking ahead. When Nixon was the president, he would disregard the law and do whatever the hell he wanted. Bush and Obama plan ahead. They passed laws saying it's legal to do whatever the hell they want, tap phones, break into your house without a warrant, put GPS tracking on your car, subpoena your phone records without probable cause, etc.

As I recall, the GOP base was super enthusiastic about the Patriot Act when it was passed. And while I would love to see it repealed, I also think it's a little disingenuous of them to be outraged about it now that it's not their guy in the White House.
But then again, I guess that expecting reactionaries to think ahead isn't very rational, is it?

 

[compuwiz1]

A lot of the GOP fundraising for the mid terms is being driven by promises of impeachment. The problem though is that they don't have a crime to pin on the President, so they just keep rehashing the same old debunked and irrelevant bullshit to keep the base believing and donating.

Do you really believe that? Everyone knows this president is not impeachable for too many reasons to list, no matter what he's done. As for no crimes commited....well, the jury is still out. Not saying he has or hasn't.

The issues the GOP are going to slam hard are:

Obamacare
Economy
IRS
NSA
Debt

Those will be the 5 things as we head toward the mid terms, except Benghazi might be in play. Immigration reform will not be resolved this year and probably not during the remainder of his presidency, so that one will not be an issue. GOP will regain the Senate and retain the House.

 

[sportage]

The birthers will never stop until this guy is six feet under the cold cold ground.
And even then...

And I don't care anyway.

Nixon was a full fledged birth certified American citizen, and Obama could never compete with that schmuck even if Obama would actually serve his six terms that all the birthers believe is the secret Obama plan.
It would be well worth the six terms just to watch their faces.

Anyone have a chance to watch the movie AMERICAN HUSTLE?
Layers and layers of corruption upon more corruption within government.
Hell... some governor or president lying on camera to the people is just a minuscule fraction of the corruption.
Telling the lie is nothing. That is hard coded into their DNA.

So any birth certificate issue means nothing compared to the corruption behind what put any president into that office in the first place.

Take Chris Christie. No, please don't take Chris Christie.
One day we will all look back on faking birth certificates as those good ole care free fun days.

 

[JEDIYoda]

http://www.mrconservative.com/2014/0...ficate-forged/

that's not even a legit source and certainly not unbiased...

 

[JEDIYoda]

Found a different source that also say that it is a forgery. Hmmm.

http://www.science.co.il/Obama-Birth-Certificate.htm

no you didn`t!! That source is from the first time not recent at all.....

 

[JEDIYoda]

It doesn't look like there is much discussion about anything related to that. The primary discussion seems to be that you're a moron for falling for such nonsense.

exactly!!

 

[Pray To Jesus]

no you didn`t!! That source is from the first time not recent at all.....

Got to wait a bit to see those 40 and 30 page.

 

[Newell Steamer]

Fake news.

But, looking at the rest of the stories, it's trageted towards a certain group; idiots looking to find something to get crazy about, with the President.

I don't like Obama, but, I don't hate the man. As stupid and sensationalist as this "news" is, it nonetheless panders to people who just hate Obama and want all sorts of bad things to happen to him.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

Fake news.

But, looking at the rest of the stories, it's trageted towards a certain group; idiots looking to find something to get crazy about, with the President.

I don't like Obama, but, I don't hate the man. As stupid and sensationalist as this "news" is, it nonetheless panders to people who just hate Obama and want all sorts of bad things to happen to him.

How do you know it is fake news? What evidence do you have that it is fake news?

 

[Newell Steamer]

How do you know it is fake news? What evidence do you have that it is fake news?

This was already posted,... but, you refuse to stay down:
http://www.marinij.com/rosskentfiel...-marin-student-uses-social-media-power-growth

Massoumi said. "All I want to do is make my money, get the life that I want and get out of the system. It's a numbers game to generate traffic. If liberal news generated traffic, then it would be liberal news."

"Now I have a thorough understanding of conservative politics and how media works. It doesn't matter what the facts are. People just want something that supports their paradigm. It's not like anybody actually cares what the truth is."

"The point of it is very obvious; it's to scare people," Massoumi said.

"We can get a huge amount of clicks right then and there," Massoumi said. "So we can overtake the viral-ability of trending news and make it our news on our website."
He said, "I think that is the future of news, unfortunately."

 

[hal2kilo]

Fake news.
.

Really! What a gyp.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

What does that have to do with the PDF?

 

[Vic]

Do you really believe that? Everyone knows this president is not impeachable for too many reasons to list, no matter what he's done. As for no crimes commited....well, the jury is still out. Not saying he has or hasn't.

The issues the GOP are going to slam hard are:

Obamacare
Economy
IRS
NSA
Debt

Those will be the 5 things as we head toward the mid terms, except Benghazi might be in play. Immigration reform will not be resolved this year and probably not during the remainder of his presidency, so that one will not be an issue. GOP will regain the Senate and retain the House.

If everyone knows the President is not impeachable, then why are so many GOP candidates running on the promise of impeachment? Oh that's right, fundraising... keeping the base believing and donating.

 

[Vic]

This was already posted,... but, you refuse to stay down:
http://www.marinij.com/rosskentfiel...-marin-student-uses-social-media-power-growth

Wow.. it's so cynical.

 

[fskimospy]

Wow.. it's so cynical.

Conservative media has been about fleecing their audience for quite awhile now. Glenn Beck fearmongered about how you needed to buy gold while hawking gold in his spare time. Things like that.

I have to say I've never seen it so baldly stated though.

 

[fskimospy]

What does that have to do with the PDF?

Your source just came out and said they have a blatant and willful disregard for the truth.

Could this mean that they might not be presenting the case on the PDF accurately?

 

[HomerJS]

Fake news.

But, looking at the rest of the stories, it's trageted towards a certain group; idiots looking to find something to get crazy about, with the President.

I don't like Obama, but, I don't hate the man. As stupid and sensationalist as this "news" is, it nonetheless panders to people who just hate Obama and want all sorts of bad things to happen to him.

That's why Fox News was pushing this stuff so hard.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Isn't this news(bi-assed Tea Party Brown nosing forgery expert report) from two years ago? I AM REALLY SURE I heard it before. There where so many I cannot tell you which this a repost of.

 

[Exophase]

OCR could explain some things, but it doesn't begin to explain all that's wrong with the PDF document posted by the Whitehouse. OCR doesn't begin to explain a layer of white-corrections where someone went through 'erasing' things, but didn't know enough to realize that painting with white is ADDING pixels to a document, not just erasing whatever it is you're whiting out. It would of course be undetectable in a flattened document- but with the layers left intact, it's there for all to see. OCR doesn't account for it- so then, WHY did someone paint with white on what should be a simple scan of an existing document? For what purpose?

It's not just OCR that could be applied but other post-process filters meant to make a document more legible. For example, removing sensor noise or dust particles. And yes, potentially done in separate layers.

OCR also doesn't really account for the pixel duplicated objects- and again, you'll notice NO ONE has actually been able to duplicate this, and show, "See? When you scan something and OCR it, it does exactly this same thing." And then actually release their results for anyone to examine. Again, I was hoping for something like this in the snopes article, or anywhere else, but still haven't seen it.

Actually it explains it exactly. I know you already understand how OCR works so I'm not sure why you're contesting pixel duplications for fields rendered as text..

And yes, if only some characters are recognized by the OCR and others aren't you could end up with only some appearing anti-aliased.

Since we don't know what software they used it'd be difficult to reproduce something exactly.

So again, WHY the need for all of this nonsense? Why would you even use OCR on this in the first place, if people want to believe that explains away all the oddities? All that you'd ever need to do was just scan the document with any garden variety scanner, and release a simple image of it. Any of us knows that's all we'd do if asked to scan a document we had, not run it through OCR. And why release something so incompetent?

OCR is something you'd normally want when scanning PDFs, it was most likely part of whatever scanning software they used. You don't just want it so you can change the text, but so you can more easily copy the text to other programs. It's generally a useful feature, particularly if whoever scanned it was used to converting documents for some other kind of electronic archiving - if you've never looked at a PDF that's a scan of an old document and not resented being unable to copy its content for presentation somewhere else then you haven't dealt with enough PDFs of old documents.

They could have disabled it, and maybe they should have released an updated one with the post-processing disabled along with an explanation that it was on and why it was on. There's a chance that whoever made the scan didn't really know what they were doing in this regard.

You yourself admit that it makes no sense why they would forge the document, and it makes no sense that a forgery would look like this. Isn't software post-processing a much more plausible explanation than a deliberate concoction of what we see?

 

[BUnit1701]

Oh noes, not again.

It wouldn't matter if he was born outside the US as he would be an American born abroad. Time to move on and stop wasting time on something that doesn't matter.

So why not be upfront about that? Why the lies and subterfuge? What reason is there for releasing a forgery AFTER all the heat is already on?