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[JoLLyRoGer]

Originally posted by: hiromizu
That's a very fast blues track eh? I play guitar and record. Put me down for some wankage or riffin.

Yeah, the 4/4 beat is pretty up tempo. I was thinking of one of those rockin blues songs that really get your feet moving. You'll find that the 6/8 track is much slower and more on the order of a slow and dirty blues number.

 

[ethebubbeth]

I've play trumpet for 14 years, and recently some guitar. I could also lay down some mean valve trombone XD. My girlfriend plays Cello, Viola da gamba, and guitar.

Most guitarists here probably kick my ass, but I was first chair all state band in AZ for trumpet in 2003.

 

[MartyMcFly3]

Im going to mess with the 4/4 one a bit. Have a few ideas in mind for it, all a matter of recording it to where I like it now.

Do we want to do both the 4/4 and 6/8 one in Bm?

 

[JoLLyRoGer]

I though it would be fun to post up some pics as we go. Had I thought of it first I would have had my wife snap some shots of my actually recording..

As it is, here are a couple of photos for the ATOT Band scrapbook.
I give you recording kludge de la JoLLyRoGer!

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[ethebubbeth]

oooh.... Bm could be ugly for me... since it would be C#m for me on a Bb trumpet. But I could always solo in something bizarre like C# phrygian or lydian, which would be using a key with better fingerings. On the other hand, I could play it on my C trumpet, but that isn't typical for stuff in this genre. In any case, since I have a chance to sit and listen/compose and not have to improvise, key shouldn't matter too much for me.

 

[Platypus]

Marty, sure.. the 4/4 one is very lively and the 6/8 could be a real smoker/scorcher at least for the guitar guys, I'd love to do both. It would be interesting to play both styles in the same key and a good way for everyone to get involved since there are a lot of cooks in our kitchen

 

[MartyMcFly3]

I recorded some stuff and I think when I record it without getting "red light anxiety" its gonna sound awesome. The sound of the bass and your playing are working really well together so far.

 

[MartyMcFly3]

There's something goofy about the 4/4 recording. At one point when it gets to the F# and Em changes, they are 8 beats long instead of 4 like the rest of the song. I mean I can still record a bass line and fill it in, but its kind of out of place.

What do you guys want to do about it? I'd feel kinda crappy having JollyRoger re-record the entire thing over 8 extra beats.

 

[Platypus]

we could all break and have someone do a fill/transition there

 

[JoLLyRoGer]

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
There's something goofy about the 4/4 recording. At one point when it gets to the F# and Em changes, they are 8 beats long instead of 4 like the rest of the song. I mean I can still record a bass line and fill it in, but its kind of out of place.

What do you guys want to do about it? I'd feel kinda crappy having JollyRoger re-record the entire thing over 8 extra beats.

Cut N Paste maybe or is it just a placement/timing thing??

Here's what I had in my head when I tracked it maybe it will help.

4 bar into
12 bar verse
12 bar verse
12 bar chorus
12 bar verse
12 bar verse
12 bar chorus
24 bar solo
12 bar verse
12 bar verse
12 bar chorus
outro

Or something like that.... I tried to make the changes obvious be switching up between the Hi-Hat and Ride for the verse vs chorus and then I moved to the ride-bell for the guitar solo section.


Maybe if I knew exactly where in the track it happens, I could to the cut-n-paste myself and re-upload.

 

[MartyMcFly3]

Originally posted by: Platypus
we could all break and have someone do a fill/transition there

Like I said, theres no problem making the line an extra 4 beats longer or anything, I just wanted to bring it to your guys' attention.

Its not really that noticeable anyways unless you are recording. If I was more precise with my audio editing software Id just cut it out.

 

[MartyMcFly3]

JollyRoger... it's before the transition to the hi-hat and ride at 1 minute.

What you got is
4 bar intro
16 bar verse
16 bar verse
12 bar chorus
etc.

I'd feel like crap if you had to rerecord it because besides that small thing, the track is awesome. You sound great on it.

Edit: The spots before the minute mark are the only 16 bar verses. The rest of the recording is fine.

 

[JoLLyRoGer]

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
JollyRoger... it's before the transition to the hi-hat and ride at 1 minute.

What you got is
4 bar intro
16 bar verse
16 bar verse
12 bar chorus
etc.

I'd feel like crap if you had to rerecord it because besides that small thing, the track is awesome. You sound great on it.

Edit: The spots before the minute mark are the only 16 bar verses. The rest of the recording is fine.

ok i figured it out!

I did a 4 bar intro, and then an 8 bar section (still part of the intro) to finish out the 12 bar stanza. Everything from there forward is 12 bar stanzas.

So, if you think about the intro + 1st 8 bars in terms of a single 12 bar stanza I think it will make more sense.

A good example of another song that starts this way is Johnny B. Goode

BTW, thamks for the compliments! I usually hate trying to record drums. Getting the right sound is a complete studio nightmare. I'm still not entirely happy with the sound I got, but it was the best I could do with what I had.

 

[hiromizu]

Just fooling around a little bit

http://s106478965.onlinehome.us/downloads/atotjam.mp3

 

[JoLLyRoGer]

Originally posted by: hiromizu
Just fooling around a little bit

http://s106478965.onlinehome.us/downloads/atotjam.mp3

OMG that is f'ing hilarious!!! LMFAO!!! You rock brotha! :thumbsup: It's actually pretty cool too!

 

[MartyMcFly3]

Originally posted by: JoLLyRoGer

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
JollyRoger... it's before the transition to the hi-hat and ride at 1 minute.

What you got is
4 bar intro
16 bar verse
16 bar verse
12 bar chorus
etc.

I'd feel like crap if you had to rerecord it because besides that small thing, the track is awesome. You sound great on it.

Edit: The spots before the minute mark are the only 16 bar verses. The rest of the recording is fine.

ok i figured it out!

I did a 4 bar intro, and then an 8 bar section (still part of the intro) to finish out the 12 bar stanza. Everything from there forward is 12 bar stanzas.

So, if you think about the intro + 1st 8 bars in terms of a single 12 bar stanza I think it will make more sense.

A good example of another song that starts this way is Johnny B. Goode

BTW, thamks for the compliments! I usually hate trying to record drums. Getting the right sound is a complete studio nightmare. I'm still not entirely happy with the sound I got, but it was the best I could do with what I had.

Ahh ok. Wow, yeah that makes total sense now that I play along with it. I guess I was just assuming it was a 4 bar intro.

I will work on that then. I probably at the earliest wont get anything recorded until tomorrow. Takes me forever to get ready for work, but I can guarantee I'll lay down a track. Monday at the latest.

(looks at username) You want me to think of Johnny B. Goode?

 

[KillerCharlie]

Hmm... anyone want to try this with a traditional jazz (bop era) song?

 

[hiromizu]

Originally posted by: JoLLyRoGer

Originally posted by: hiromizu
Just fooling around a little bit

http://s106478965.onlinehome.us/downloads/atotjam.mp3

OMG that is f'ing hilarious!!! LMFAO!!! You rock brotha! :thumbsup: It's actually pretty cool too!

Thanks : ) Rhythm is off in a few places due to lack of practice.

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: JoLLyRoGer

Originally posted by: Platypus
bummer, no biggie JR.

I got some personal recording done earlier tonight instead

Better late than never!! Tracks are officially up.

Here's the link.
http://www.here4days.com/ATOT/atot.html

When you get there just right click the page links and do a 'save as'.

Enjoy!!
JR..

p.s. The 6/8 track was done on the 1st take and there are a couple of "spots", but nothing to write home about. Especially once it's all burried under other instrumentation

I was kind of thinking something around 80bpm---but I'll work with it.

Now, where's that confounded bass player?

 

[aplefka]

Man, I hate you Platypus. After all we've been through you don't even put me under the bassists? That's messed up.

I'm gonna go write a song about my total depression over this thread.

 

[Platypus]

Originally posted by: aplefka
Man, I hate you Platypus. After all we've been through you don't even put me under the bassists? That's messed up.

I'm gonna go write a song about my total depression over this thread.

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[MartyMcFly3]

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: JoLLyRoGer

Originally posted by: Platypus
bummer, no biggie JR.

I got some personal recording done earlier tonight instead

Better late than never!! Tracks are officially up.

Here's the link.
http://www.here4days.com/ATOT/atot.html

When you get there just right click the page links and do a 'save as'.

Enjoy!!
JR..

p.s. The 6/8 track was done on the 1st take and there are a couple of "spots", but nothing to write home about. Especially once it's all burried under other instrumentation

I was kind of thinking something around 80bpm---but I'll work with it.

Now, where's that confounded bass player?

Give me until tomorrow afternoon around this time. I promise I'll put something up.

 

[aircooled]

I'd like to see a bass riff the drums can play off of first, but that's just me. Start with several riffs submitted, then have the drums play off that riff.

 

[aplefka]

Originally posted by: aircooled
I'd like to see a bass riff the drums can play off of first, but that's just me. Start with several riffs submitted, then have the drums play off that riff.

Yeah. To me this is working backwards as usually drums are the last thing we'll add to a song in progress. But I guess blues progressions are simple enough, although I will admit I find the timing a bit weird on the 4/4 one. You have to modify the typical 12 bar blues so that it lasts a little bit longer.

 

[CraKaJaX]

Originally posted by: aircooled
I'd like to see a bass riff the drums can play off of first, but that's just me. Start with several riffs submitted, then have the drums play off that riff.

I would have to agree. Playing drums bare is kind of odd. I usually listen to a bass or guitar riff and go from there. This is kind of working backwards as aplefka said.