One reason the 3.7L V6 does better with economy is Borg-Warner's Cam-Torque Actuated Variable Valve Timing System...
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/10q3/cam-torque_actuated_variable_valve_timing_system-tech_dept
Ok so I read that and I don't see where the Mustang "trounces" the GTO. All I see is an author trying to claim it does with no facts to back it up. I also read the print version of that "comparo" in Motor Trend when it came out back in 2005. Here's the basic gist of both:
"So what was the Mustang's appeal? Well, we're suckers for a great body, and the Mustang looks a lot better than the GTO."
That's it? The Mustang looks better? Hahahahaha. The GTO outperformed the Mustang in nearly every category and they admit it. But the Mustang looks better. Well woweee. In the print article version of this they said the Mustang had "gotta have it" factor. To me the author just comes off as biased. The GTO is the better car by a long shot.
M3 > Mustang
If the BMW has more "sole" ......um, who really cares? ROFL.
You said the 05 GTO had beaten an M3 6 years ago so it was no big deal. You made fun of Ford for taking so long to catch up. I showed that the 05 GT was right there with the 05 GTO..
You said the 05 GTO had beaten an M3 6 years ago so it was no big deal. You made fun of Ford for taking so long to catch up. I showed that the 05 GT was right there with the 05 GTO...meaning it must also have been right with the M3 at the time. Certainly not far behind either car.
M3 > Mustang
anyone who says this obviously has not driven an M3.
go drive one, then get back to me.
again, haz moar sole.
Barely, and it costs 25K more?, if Ford were to ask 25K more for a 'stang don't you think it would be a better handling car with better grade interior materials and such?. For the price the 'stang is really the pure winner here unless $25K is not a lot of cash to you...
You mean the Shelby GT500? Doesn't really handle any better, same crap interior, no additional options of note compared to the GT. It will putting a serious hurting on the M3 in a straight line though.
Going to independent suspension would be fantastic. Their number one buyer isn't looking forward to track days though, that's a smaller segment of their potential customers. Their primary customers are the same people that buy any other car, because they like the name or the look or the cupholders. Then there's the camaro/mustang guy that I know and love and wants just BEAT ON the car every day and have a car that won't break. Live axle wins at that for sure. And then there's the guy that wants fast, which is rare. But still, I think the car could benefit from independent.
I just picked up a 2007 GT. The suspension is a lot lot softer than what I'm used to, it's a bit annoying. But I am in California now, where the roads are worse than in any third world country. I'm glad I have the big boaty car here.
They should offer a package (do they?) that gives you real tires and much tighter suspension on these Mustangs. Would you believe that this Mustang GT with its 300 horsepower has 235 tires all around?
I want to get a supercharger so it has decent power for how massively boaty it is, and I want tires on it that are made for a car with this much power. Like it comes out of the gate not ready to perform. Oh well, top speed in this state is 30mph due to the dumbest drivers imaginable.
When Ford switched the GT500 over to the revised suspension it got worlds better than the pre-2010 GT500 that didn't like to corner. It now actually does handle significantly better.
"This is now more than just a muscle car, its A-to-B mountain road pace has just moved up with some of best AWD cars"
ZV
When Ford switched the GT500 over to the revised suspension it got worlds better than the pre-2010 GT500 that didn't like to corner. It now actually does handle significantly better.
"This is now more than just a muscle car, its A-to-B mountain road pace has just moved up with some of best AWD cars"
ZV
you mean the shelby gt500? Doesn't really handle any better, same crap interior, no additional options of note compared to the gt. It will put a serious hurting on the m3 in a straight line though.
not relevant. The comparison is to the 2011 gt, not the previous generation gt500.
o rly
Make up your mind and quit trying to cherry pick the best and worst features from 3 different cars to make your failed point. You're the one that even brought up GT500 in the first place darrrr. :awe:
M3 > Mustang