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Lifer
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If the ISP's are really serious this time then I assume someone like EFF or the American Civil Liberties Union will eventually take this all the way to the Supreme Court.

In the meantime ISP's will use this to encourage you to use their own streaming video services which they have conveniently set up just in time for this crackdown.
 

ImpulsE69

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Everyone should do the exact opposite of what you are doing; unsecure your router.

LMAO. I seriously thought about doing this, however, I really don't want people in my stuff. Back in the day, I actually did have a old junk system setup in a DMZ and would watch what people would do. I don't think I'd trust doing that these days. I rely on my network too much.
 

lxskllr

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LMAO. I seriously thought about doing this, however, I really don't want people in my stuff. Back in the day, I actually did have a old junk system setup in a DMZ and would watch what people would do. I don't think I'd trust doing that these days. I rely on my network too much.

My router's old, so the whole thing's open, but I think newer ones have a guest account. I'd leave that open, and apply qos to it according to your needs. Unsecured wireless is being a good neighbor.
 

SphinxnihpS

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LMAO. I seriously thought about doing this, however, I really don't want people in my stuff. Back in the day, I actually did have a old junk system setup in a DMZ and would watch what people would do. I don't think I'd trust doing that these days. I rely on my network too much.

Windows firewall. Not that that matters. If someone really wants to compromise a device of your network, they probably can unless your encrypt your disks. Even then who knows. If you ever need internet, just park outside my house. SSID= R'Lyeh
 

SphinxnihpS

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This is really the equivalent of the a law stating that you must lock your doors. Stupid.
 

Ben90

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Check if your router has Wifi Protected Setup (WPS) enabled. It's incredibly easy to crack even then best secured WPA2 router if you leave WPS enabled. I know you said you turned on MAC filtering and that would negate the WPS attack vector, but it doesn't hurt to turn it off anyway.
MAC filtering does nothing. It's a minor inconvenience for those on Windows, but even a first time noob following the most basic aircrack tutorials won't have any problems circumventing it.
 

ImpulsE69

Lifer
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Spoke with someone in management about the issue, and it really sounds like they could care less...just keep throwing back you are responsible for the security of your wireless and how it's used. They are going to get me the name and contact info of the company that reported it.
 

Kreon

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Spoke with someone in management about the issue, and it really sounds like they could care less...just keep throwing back you are responsible for the security of your wireless and how it's used. They are going to get me the name and contact info of the company that reported it.

Until they get hacked, then the hackers are to blame and they carry no responsibility for their security.
 

FelixDeCat

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Since reading this thread has anyone used?
www.justfreevpn.com

Terms of Service

To use the service, you agree that: you won't hack, attack, scan or break into other computers, servers or websites; you won't distribute viruses/trojans/worms or pirated copyright materials; you won't generate fraud transaction and abuse credit card payment systems; you won't send unsolicited or fraudulent emails; you won't engage in child pornography activities; you won't encourage criminal or terrorist activities.


If you violate any of our terms that involve illegal or criminal activities, your privacy and confidentiality privileges won't be guaranteed any more, and your VPN access logs are exposed to 3rd party authorities if needed.
I use a free open VPNs sometimes (not this one) but I always assume that anything can/will be tracked back (ratted out). Most of them have a disclaimer like the one above saying something like "dont be evil and you wont have anything to worry about".
 
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Exterous

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with them you are guilty until proven innocent. shrug

Well duh. An IP address = a person remember?

To be fair I do get why they try and shrug this off on the consumer. I read this a while back and while it seems some states are catching on it looks like ISPs are getting near constant streams of subpeonas to provide information

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/10/15/how-porn-copyright-lawyer-john-steele-justifies-his-pursuit-of-sometimes-innocent-porn-pirates/#more-16339

I imagine they spent a lot of money on legal costs over copyright issues.
 

jdobratz

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MAC filtering does nothing. It's a minor inconvenience for those on Windows, but even a first time noob following the most basic aircrack tutorials won't have any problems circumventing it.

Yea, I forgot how easy it is to gather connection data for a given access point and then use that to spoof MAC addresses. The info about WPS still stands, however, that should always be disabled on your router if the firmware supports it.
 

phucheneh

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I bet congress and the FCC would act quickly to close whatever 'loopholes' allow the peasants to file frivolous lawsuits against their internet providers.

...define 'frivolous?' I'm assuming you would also call a mass tort or class action frivolous?

More than likely, I would guess that the 'loopholes' closed would relate to the ISP being subject to the infantile demands of the RIAA/MPAA. If you see thousands of plaintiffs against one defendant company, you think that would indicate that the plaintiffs need to change their behavior? LOL.

It's not our fault that the legal system sucks. Use what ways you can to achieve something vaguely resembling 'justice.' Or at least prevent yourself from being assraped.

...or you can just let large companies do whatever they want, including essentially writing their own laws.

Everyone should do the exact opposite of what you are doing; unsecure your router. If everyone did this, the 6-strike BS wouldn't work.

I understand the thinking here, but what does this make possible other than simple 'bandwidth theft?' I am no l33t h4x0r, so I really don't know the extent of what it is possible for someone to gain access to simply by being on your network.

If nothing else, couldn't they spoof your network and intercept your shit? That seems like it would be bad.
 

Red Squirrel

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Well duh. An IP address = a person remember?

To be fair I do get why they try and shrug this off on the consumer. I read this a while back and while it seems some states are catching on it looks like ISPs are getting near constant streams of subpeonas to provide information

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/10/15/how-porn-copyright-lawyer-john-steele-justifies-his-pursuit-of-sometimes-innocent-porn-pirates/#more-16339

I imagine they spent a lot of money on legal costs over copyright issues.

ISPs need to fight for their customers. The only way we can really win this war is if some mega corporations (ISPs) can help us. To me, it would be in their interest to do so, because it would increase customer loyalty and be less work for them. Basically make it a huge complicated process for copyright companies to report someone. Some huge 50 page form with tons of specific details that are required. This anti piracy extremism is getting way out of hand.

I can already see what will happen, it will be common for people to have VPNs to offshore VPS services. So the copyright companies are just going to make VPNs illegal. Basically you'll need to be a business and have a valid reason to use it, and you wont be allowed to VPN outside the country. They're probably drafting this as I speak. While they wont be able to see the VPN tunnel's actual data, they'll still be able to see the VPN tunnel. So they'll just assume you are doing something wrong, and it's guilty until proven innocent.

Though I would imagine a VPN over Thor, project meshnet, etc... would reduce those odds.
 

phucheneh

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Isn't all radio ... wireless?

If not ... I've missed something.

'Wireless' is specifically referring to the networking standards. 'Radio' meaning 'thing that is sending/receiving the signals.'

To turn off the 'wireless radio' in a router is to completely disable any wireless networking. It's not exactly uncommon terminology. You say 'FM radio' and 'AM radio' to specifically refer to audio transmissions of a certain type. '3G radio' and '4G radio' are common terms for the phone hardware. Ect.

Since both 'wireless' and 'radio' are common terms, to simply say 'turn off the radio' or 'turn off the wireless' invites confusion. And 'Wireless transmitter/receiver' is kinda long. Hence, 'wireless radio' is a common term. I'm pretty sure it's even the term used in my router's firmware (maybe just DD-WRT, I can't recall if any of the factory ones do).

Of course, the explanation is moot if you were just critiquing semantics for no good reason. ;P