MPAA can kiss my internet service provider

[ImpulsE69]

Problem #1: ISP shut off service for Illegal downloading (pirating)

Problem #2: Did not download said file (seriously, and no, no one else in my household would have either)

Problem #3: Process to get service back on: Tell them you deleted said file from systems, and will not activate service until you tell them. Sure seems like admission of guilt to me

Told them I did not download file and it did not exist on any systems in my house. Had them note that I did NOT download the file and did not consider any admission of guilt and wanted it recorded in case this happens again (you know..there's a limit).

Currently on hold while they get me the information of said accusers since only evidence anyone has mentioned is my IP address on said day.

Tempted to sue for money back on a paid service simply for the annoyance. In speaking to my ISP they said all they get is a name of a file and an IP that was showing as hosting it and they know nothing else. THIS should be whats illegal. I am paying for a service and they unjustly turn my service off because some random company says so? BS.

This obviously raised a red flag so went out to my router and sure enough I see 2 unknown mac addresses. Not getting into the details of my setup, yes i know how to secure my network and I recently updated firmware and did not happen to enable mac filtering, and obviously they figured out my key. I fixed this for the moment.

Regardless, this is BS and I'm going to fight this. It is EXACTLY what people said would happen.

Fuck the RIAA and MPIA. They won't get another dollar from me.

 

[jdobratz]

Check if your router has Wifi Protected Setup (WPS) enabled. It's incredibly easy to crack even then best secured WPA2 router if you leave WPS enabled. I know you said you turned on MAC filtering and that would negate the WPS attack vector, but it doesn't hurt to turn it off anyway.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Yea, WPA was on and I had shut it off as well although I did not know it could be used that way. Good to know.

 

[Train]

Was this first offense?

I once got a forwarded cease and desist letter because some torrent trffic was detected on my network (downloaded a popular movie) from AT&T.

AT&T said they did not give my info to the people who sent the letter, but would on a 3rd offense, and that was only the first. I thought that was fair on AT&T's part.

 

[Pardus]

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[ImpulsE69]

Yes, and they didn't say they gave any info to them, but I want the info because the new rules went into effect today I think. This is only the beginning...

 

[darkewaffle]

Problem #2: Did not download said file (seriously, and no, no one else in my household would have either)

Not buying it.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Not buying it.

LOL. I understand, but you need to realize, they specfically called out a file..a movie to be precise, that I DID NOT download. We'll just keep it at that.

If I had...I wouldn't be bitching, I'd quietly be working around it.

 

[KeithTalent]

Need to know the name of the movie before we can properly judge.

KT

 

[ImpulsE69]

It wasn't porn, I get that for free from the wifes business

Gangster Squad...which...I am interested in..but not enough to pirate it ;p

 

[fleshconsumed]

Yes, and they didn't say they gave any info to them, but I want the info because the new rules went into effect today I think. This is only the beginning...

Yes, today is the first day of the six strike policy roll out. Comcast is going live today, others will follow soon. I am surprised to see a thread about it on the very first day though.

Complain to your legislators everybody, maybe they'll listen... ha...!

 

[waggy]

with them you are guilty until proven innocent. shrug

 

[waggy]

Complain to your legislators everybody, maybe they'll listen... ha...!

hahahahahah oh good one.

 

[ZOOYUKA]

Problem #2: Did not download said file (seriously, and no, no one else in my household would have either)

Just curious. Who else is in your household besides you and your wife?

 

[ImpulsE69]

Just curious. Who else is in your household besides you and your wife?

No one. And she really only uses a nook to browse. Like I said, pretty sure someone accessed my wireless. I already looked to see if there were viruses ect and found nothing. I used my routers GPS to track the mac and it appears to be the house behind me granted not sure how accurate those things are, but obviously has to be someone within range.

I upgraded the firmware a few weeks ago. The report came in on the 21st and they shut me off this morning.

That's pretty damn fast.

 

[PowerYoga]

Generally I turn off my ssid until I get home. Not sure if that helps with security or whatever, but my thoughts are you can't connect to the router if the wireless is off.

 

[Jeffg010]

Since reading this thread has anyone used?
www.justfreevpn.com

 

[ImpulsE69]

Generally I turn off my ssid until I get home. Not sure if that helps with security or whatever, but my thoughts are you can't connect to the router if the wireless is off.

Yea....but let's not forget what the actual point of this thread is, which is ISP's just blindly shut off service because some corporation says so. This will not end well. Wireless is not secure enough and courts in Cali are already saying that IP's are not enough evidence due to that.

 

[lxskllr]

Generally I turn off my ssid until I get home. Not sure if that helps with security or whatever, but my thoughts are you can't connect to the router if the wireless is off.

The first step in cracking is scanning, and your network will be found. mac filtering and hiding the ssid do absolutely nothing for security, and they make routine operation irritating for the user.

 

[ZOOYUKA]

No one. And she really only uses a nook to browse. Like I said, pretty sure someone accessed my wireless. I already looked to see if there were viruses ect and found nothing. I used my routers GPS to track the mac and it appears to be the house behind me granted not sure how accurate those things are, but obviously has to be someone within range.

I upgraded the firmware a few weeks ago. The report came in on the 21st and they shut me off this morning.

That's pretty damn fast.

This could be adapted to a Lifetime movie. Man discovers wife's affair when his internet is shut off due to wife's lover illegally downloading movies in his house.

 

[phucheneh]

SSID != wireless radio.

Turning off your SSID does nothing. If someone is going to bother cracking your security, they probably know enough to detect networks without an SSID broadcast.

I would sue the cable company in a heartbeat if you have the time. You pay $100-150 in filing fees, they have no leg to stand on, you win your case, they (assuming you demanded it, which you should) have to reimburse your filing fees and pay whatever damages you can get. Even if it's $50, who gives a shit; it costed you nothing but time and they probably spent a couple grand on lawyers.

Spite is my reward. Fucking shit companies.

Can you imagine what would happen if everyone who got their service shut off like this went and filed in small claims? I bet this garbage would stop pretty fucking quick.

 

[MaxPayne63]

Can you imagine what would happen if everyone who got their service shut off like this went and filed in small claims? I bet this garbage would stop pretty fucking quick.

I bet congress and the FCC would act quickly to close whatever 'loopholes' allow the peasants to file frivolous lawsuits against their internet providers.

 

[ImpulsE69]

The first step in cracking is scanning, and your network will be found. mac filtering and hiding the ssid do absolutely nothing for security, and they make routine operation irritating for the user.

Exactly. Obviously if someone had enough knowledge to get as far as they did since the network wasn't just wide open...they probably know how to get past most other things as well.

I went a step further though and manually IP'd each mac along with mac filtering and then made it so only those IP's were available. This SHOULD 99% of the time keep anyone from being on my network...or at least if they are, I'll know pretty fast when a system can't get on.

But that's the point isn't it? I shouldn't be required to do this due to fear of being shut off by my ISP, but rather someone hacking my systems. This is ass backwards.

 

[Train]

I would sue the cable company in a heartbeat if you have the time. You pay $100-150 in filing fees, they have no leg to stand on, you win your case, they (assuming you demanded it, which you should) have to reimburse your filing fees and pay whatever damages you can get. Even if it's $50, who gives a shit; it costed you nothing but time and they probably spent a couple grand on lawyers.

Careful, MPAA/RIAA might decide they want to set a precedent that says "yes, ISP's can shut you off for this", and weigh in on the side of the ISP.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

Problem #1: ISP shut off service for Illegal downloading (pirating)

Problem #2: Did not download said file (seriously, and no, no one else in my household would have either)

Problem #3: Process to get service back on: Tell them you deleted said file from systems, and will not activate service until you tell them. Sure seems like admission of guilt to me

Told them I did not download file and it did not exist on any systems in my house. Had them note that I did NOT download the file and did not consider any admission of guilt and wanted it recorded in case this happens again (you know..there's a limit).

Currently on hold while they get me the information of said accusers since only evidence anyone has mentioned is my IP address on said day.

Tempted to sue for money back on a paid service simply for the annoyance. In speaking to my ISP they said all they get is a name of a file and an IP that was showing as hosting it and they know nothing else. THIS should be whats illegal. I am paying for a service and they unjustly turn my service off because some random company says so? BS.

This obviously raised a red flag so went out to my router and sure enough I see 2 unknown mac addresses. Not getting into the details of my setup, yes i know how to secure my network and I recently updated firmware and did not happen to enable mac filtering, and obviously they figured out my key. I fixed this for the moment.

Regardless, this is BS and I'm going to fight this. It is EXACTLY what people said would happen.

Fuck the RIAA and MPIA. They won't get another dollar from me.

Everyone should do the exact opposite of what you are doing; unsecure your router. If everyone did this, the 6-strike BS wouldn't work.