Meg Whitman's former housekeeper hires Gloria Allred

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Craig234

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What is laughable in my mind is Whitman trying to blame Brown. Jerry Brown may have been handed a huge campaign issue, but I don't think Jerry Brown ever went to Meg Whitman and said why don't you hire this maid ten years ago.

No Meg Whitman got into this mess all by herself, and she has blown it every step of the way.

This Hispanic community in California, almost all of which are full US citizens are still steamed at Pete Wilson, and now Meg Whitman just lost a very large voting block.

Ya, it seems now Whitman is trying to look better by saying how concerned she is about the poor immigrant woman, and how Brown is hurting her.
 

herkulease

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I'm not sure Brown has been handed anything.

If Whitman had hired her and paid her under the table and knew from the start she was an illegal immigrant yeah it is something. the usually nanny gate we often see.

This maid gate is hardly a big enough scandal. Brown and his supporters can't say Meg cheated the woman or the govt. Reasonable wage and paid all required taxes. the letter itself is not and does not provide any proof @ that time of the maid's immigration status.

the whole notion of well Meg had to know sometime during those 9 years is ludicrous.

What would she base that assumption on? The letter? Nope. clearly states it is not an indication of immigration status. Husband asked maid to take care of it. Letters never come again. Assumes its takes cared of. Reasonable. SSA also stated they stopped sending them out in 03 or 04.
Are we to expect whitman and family to be on top of SSA policy on what is mailed out and what isn't.

Maybe that she was a Hispanic maid? If she did that you have the same bunch calling her racist.

Fired her when maid told her she was illegal. Checks out with her view on immigration.

So far I'm trying to find an angle she really can be attacked on that isn't pure bs. It can be spinned that Meg wanting to help out the maid was that Meg felt maid was like family having worked for them for 9 years. She was only trying to be a compassionate person. She's playing that right now.
 

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The part about illegal housekeepers letting their bosses know after XX years to see if they can get help, I have witnessed first hand. Truthfully, as much as I am against illegal immigration, after knowing someone for so long, I would have probably been inclined to help her.

It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out.

LOL at the financially abused allegation. How often do you see a housekeeper making nearly $48K per year?

If she did receive that letter, then it'll just serve to highlight her hypocritical stance on immigration. Unfortunately, as bad as she is, she is still no worse than Jerry Brown.

Did I mention that this state is F$&ked?

In California 48k is really like 20k. That's like working at McDonald's for minimum wage!!!
 

alphatarget1

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Yes, the billionare trying to buy office in a democracy to fight the class for for the billionare's side by taking over the government is not pathetic.

Whatever. Brown represents the failure of Democratic governance in the state of CA for the past 20-30 years. I'd rather have a successful businessperson to run the state than some jackass who has been sucking on the government tit "serving the people" all of his life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX6RUe_3nBU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNl_dMVmuZQ&feature=fvw
 

Lemon law

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Brown and Whitman were neck and neck before this maid firing became public, I think we soon see Whitman slip in the polls.

alphatarget1 is simply parroting the GOP position, and an equal number took the democratic position before the scandal broke.

Now the question is, how will this scandal effect the electability of Meg Whitman?
 

Craig234

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Whatever. Brown represents the failure of Democratic governance in the state of CA for the past 20-30 years.

No, he doesn't.

And oh by the way, the problems of governance in CA the last 20-30 years has been Republicans, starting with Prop 13's 2/3 budget rule causing radical Republicans with 'zero tax' pledges who obstruct and commercial property tax gutting through numerous Republican governors through a few Republican activists in Orange County getting the Democratic governor replaced with 'Enron Arnold'.

I'd rather have a successful businessperson to run the state than some jackass who has been sucking on the government tit "serving the people" all of his life.

You're an idiotlogue who has no clue about government. Billionare business men can rape the public for the benefit of their class, and you wouldn't know a good public servant if he bit you in the butt, as you equate it to 'sucking on a teet', utterly clueless what good policies are, zero clue how to have government have policies that increase prosperity, not turn the society into a pluotocracy.
 

Craig234

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So far I'm trying to find an angle she really can be attacked on that isn't pure bs.

No, you're not. I posted one repeatedly, you ignored it. Meg tried to get rid of the issue by saying she and her husband for a fact had never seen the letter. It was not true.
 

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In California 48k is really like 20k. That's like working at McDonald's for minimum wage!!!

Yeah and how much is 48k in Mexico? Last I heard Mexico's minimum wage was around $4...a day. ICE should deport this felon immediately.
 

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No, he doesn't.

And oh by the way, the problems of governance in CA the last 20-30 years has been Republicans, starting with Prop 13's 2/3 budget rule causing radical Republicans with 'zero tax' pledges who obstruct and commercial property tax gutting through numerous Republican governors through a few Republican activists in Orange County getting the Democratic governor replaced with 'Enron Arnold'.

You are an idiot.
 

Medellon

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No, you're not. I posted one repeatedly, you ignored it. Meg tried to get rid of the issue by saying she and her husband for a fact had never seen the letter. It was not true.

Yeah, how do you know its not true? You know with all your supossed knowledge, you'd think you would have better grammar than a third grader.
 

Craig234

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Actually, Medellon, your posts sink below the idiocy level for a response. Unlike you, this is not followed by more posts to you for discussion.
 

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What is laughable in my mind is Whitman trying to blame Brown. Jerry Brown may have been handed a huge campaign issue, but I don't think Jerry Brown ever went to Meg Whitman and said why don't you hire this maid ten years ago.

No Meg Whitman got into this mess all by herself, and she has blown it every step of the way.

This Hispanic community in California, almost all of which are full US citizens are still steamed at Pete Wilson, and now Meg Whitman just lost a very large voting block.

Lemon Law, did you even pay attention to what she was saying? She said she blames Jerry Brown and his "men" for finding this and pushing it to the spot light. Using "Nicky" for a political smear campaign and the only one who is going to suffer for it is "Nicky" because she'll be deported now. That's what Meg Whitman was saying. That Brown had some people dig this up and bring it out, in turn ruining the maids life.
 

OBLAMA2009

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No, you're not. I posted one repeatedly, you ignored it. Meg tried to get rid of the issue by saying she and her husband for a fact had never seen the letter. It was not true.

shes a real piece of work. every time she gets caught (this, not voting, etc...) she comes out with a flat out denial. then even when confronted with evidence, she still doesnt admit anything or accept any resposibility, as if money can change the facts. she is just not an honest person
 
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shes a real piece of work. every time she gets caught (this, not voting, etc...) she comes out with a flat out denial. then even when confronted with evidence, she still doesnt admit anything, as if money can change the facts. she is just not an honest person

you're a moron.
 

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No. Here is what happened: The husband got it, and wrote a note to THE MAID on it asking her to take care of it and gave it to THE MAID. That's why the note exists at all, is because the MAID sat on it, OBVIOUSLY hiding her status from her employer.

This is a really pathetic political attack and the video I posted shows Allred has NO case whatsoever. She and the maid are merely tools for the Brown Campaign. It's all extremely pathetic.

These facts have no firepower when faced with the arsenal of logical fallacies and distortion of facts that liberals are using to try and bbq Whitman on this.

It's pathetic that an illegal who lied and duped her employer is getting glorified for being swindled into attempting to sabotoge Whitman's campaign.

Liberals are able to sit happily asserting that the illegal is the one who is the victim. So long as it appeals to a voracious appetite that their virtue lies in whatever feel good bs they can dream up, liberals have little issue in dismissing the reality of a situation or policy.
 

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how could she get a letter like that in 2002, suggesting nicky wasnt legal, and obviously never resolve the issue, and not keep getting similar letters year after year, until 2009, when she fired nicky, unless she was paying her illegally/under the table for most of that time?

wouldnt it be funny if meg whitman spent $150 mil on her presidential campaign and then lost? just in case, can you impeach someone before theyre elected?

have you ever heard of slumlords that get sentenced to living in their own buildings? maybe meg whitman should be sentenced to cleaning houses or answering emails from angry ebayers.
 
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how could she get a letter like that in 2002, suggesting nicky wasnt legal, and obviously never resolve the issue, and not keep getting similar letters year after year, until 2009, when she fired nicky, unless she was paying her illegally/under the table for most of that time?

wouldnt it be funny if meg whitman spent $150 mil on her presidential campaign and then lost? just in case, can you impeach someone before theyre elected?

have you ever heard of slumlords that get sentenced to living in their own buildings? maybe meg whitman should be sentenced to cleaning houses or answering emails from angry ebayers.

I doubt that Whitman ever did see the the letter(s) from the SSA. Her husband did see the letter,the letter was very benign. Have you read the letter? It doesn't even really mention that she could be in the country illegally. It also specifically indicates that you cannot take disciplinary action against the employee based on this letter. I have only seen one letter from 2003. I don't see anything on additional letters being sent every year. They continued to paying her above the table paying all taxes etc for the maid. The maid had all the proper paperwork. This is one of the reason that going forward E-verify should be more widely used.
 

OBLAMA2009

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I doubt that Whitman ever did see the the letter(s) from the SSA. Her husband did see the letter,the letter was very benign. Have you read the letter? It doesn't even really mention that she could be in the country illegally. It also specifically indicates that you cannot take disciplinary action against the employee based on this letter. I have only seen one letter from 2003. I don't see anything on additional letters being sent every year. They continued to paying her above the table paying all taxes etc for the maid. The maid had all the proper paperwork. This is one of the reason that going forward E-verify should be more widely used.
im asking how could they keep doing that for 7 years after getting that first letter? i read the letter, but seriously, a person doesnt have a valid ss# and they speak spanish and meg doesnt have any reason to suspect shes employing an illegal alien? maybe her husband needs to do brain surgery on her

so meg whitman can blow a hundred million dollars to run for president but cant spare a couple thousand to help a person who was "like a member of the family"??? what an awful person, shell make a great governor...
 
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herkulease

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im asking how could they keep doing that for 7 years after getting that first letter? i read the letter, but seriously, a person doesnt have a valid ss# and they speak spanish and meg doesnt have any reason to suspect shes employing an illegal alien? maybe her husband needs to do brain surgery on her

so meg whitman can blow a hundred million dollars to run for president but cant spare a couple thousand to help a person who was "like a member of the family"??? what an awful person, shell make a great governor...

the letter says nothing on status. it lists numerous reasons for it include typos.

what reason does she have to suspect that can't be made out to be bigoted or racist?

letter from SSA(which for all they know easily could've been a typo @ the time) and spanish speaking maid means they shoudl instantly suspect she's an illegal? If she did that you'd have even a bigger scandal, especially if it turned out wrong.

Now if they were getting more than 1 over the years(if SSA didn't stop sending those out in 03 or 04) I will say they are pretty stupid not to have any inkling something is up.
 

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the letter says nothing on status. it lists numerous reasons for it include typos.

what reason does she have to suspect that can't be made out to be bigoted or racist?

letter from SSA(which for all they know easily could've been a typo @ the time) and spanish speaking maid means they shoudl instantly suspect she's an illegal? If she did that you'd have even a bigger scandal, especially if it turned out wrong.

Now if they were getting more than 1 over the years(if SSA didn't stop sending those out in 03 or 04) I will say they are pretty stupid not to have any inkling something is up.

yeah we know it says that but isnt that for the sake of the one time out of a hundred that it really was a typo.
 

Craig234

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Her husband did see the letter...

She said he did not see the letter, to try to make this go away, until the letter was produced with his writing. The denial would have worked nicely, if the letter didn't prove otherwise.

It sounded nice - it was her 'did not have sex with that woman' type strident denial about her evil opponents - and she was proven wrong with the blue dress letter.

I won't go so far as to say she clearly lied for sure, even though it's possible - but she did say something false, rather than the 'do not recall' type statement. DID NOT, she said.
 

Craig234

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shes a real piece of work. every time she gets caught (this, not voting, etc...) she comes out with a flat out denial. then even when confronted with evidence, she still doesnt admit anything or accept any resposibility, as if money can change the facts. she is just not an honest person

The thing is, money might not change facts, but it changes votes, if it just puts the word 'jobs' next to her name and attacks next to Brown's thousands of times.