Meg Whitman's former housekeeper hires Gloria Allred

[herkulease]

yeah we know it says that but isnt that for the sake of the one time out of a hundred that it really was a typo.

So 99% of the time people get these letters because employee is a illegal? That this was merely PC way to alert you have an illegal working for you?

 

[Craig234]

Lemon Law, did you even pay attention to what she was saying? She said she blames Jerry Brown and his "men" for finding this and pushing it to the spot light. Using "Nicky" for a political smear campaign and the only one who is going to suffer for it is "Nicky" because she'll be deported now. That's what Meg Whitman was saying. That Brown had some people dig this up and bring it out, in turn ruining the maids life.

Who is the maid criticizing now, Whitman or Brown? Wouldn't, if you were right, she be out denouncing Brown for 'using her'?

Not that Brown would necessarily be wrong for doing so - that's like blaming the prosecutor for prosecuting a criminal. It'd be Whitman's fault for her actions.

Sort of like how the right 'used' Monica Lewinsky to attack Clinton, hurting Monica.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

She said he did not see the letter, to try to make this go away, until the letter was produced with his writing. The denial would have worked nicely, if the letter didn't prove otherwise.

It sounded nice - it was her 'did not have sex with that woman' type strident denial about her evil opponents - and she was proven wrong with the blue dress letter.

I won't go so far as to say she clearly lied for sure, even though it's possible - but she did say something false, rather than the 'do not recall' type statement. DID NOT, she said.

she made that denial in a press conference with her husband standing 3 feet from her too. she really thought she and her husband could get away with a bald faced lie. i personally dont care if she hired an illegal, i do it myself, but shes just a liar

 

[OBLAMA2009]

So 99% of the time people get these letters because employee is a illegal? That this was merely PC way to alert you have an illegal working for you?

my guess would be that for a problem ss# and a spanish speaking employee, yes. dont tell me you disagree

 

[bfdd]

no a moron is someone like you who would vote for meg whitman

I'm an undecided voter buddy. Odds are I won't vote for either Meg or Brown because I really don't like either of them.

 

[herkulease]

my guess would be that for a problem ss# and a spanish speaking employee, yes. dont tell me you disagree

The problem is that for you and me coming to that conclusion it is fine.I'm not running for office I don't care if you nail me for jumping to conclusions. I'd probably factor in how well they spoke english. I didn't see the press conference so I don't know her skill.

For a politician, you can easily label them as being racist and bigoted. Especially if it turned out wrong. Even if she was right as we all now know, I'm sure they can still spin it that way.

As I said before what basis did she have @ the time to suspect anything was up that can't be made to make her look bad now.

If you can come up with a course of action they could have taken that is essentially problem free I'd like to know.

I'm trying to think of something that is politically safe and I'm coming up with nothing, except she shouldn't have hired anyone, clean your own damn house or make your kids do it.

 

[Craig234]

she made that denial in a press conference with her husband standing 3 feet from her too. she really thought she and her husband could get away with a bald faced lie. i personally dont care if she hired an illegal, i do it myself, but shes just a liar

That's where hypocrisy gets added in, for someone who speaks loudly against hiring illegals to seemingly be at best careless.

The issue there isn't the hiring of the illegal, which people may even support, but doing it as someone who has loudly spoken against it.

It'd be a bit like someone who opposes gay rights attacking a politician who has fought for gay rights, but then is found to have not hired someone for being gay.

It's not that they object to not hiring someone for being gay, it's the hypocrisy they'd be showing.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

That's where hypocrisy gets added in, for someone who speaks loudly against hiring illegals to seemingly be at best careless.

The issue there isn't the hiring of the illegal, which people may even support, but doing it as someone who has loudly spoken against it.

It'd be a bit like someone who opposes gay rights attacking a politician who has fought for gay rights, but then is found to have not hired someone for being gay.

It's not that they object to not hiring someone for being gay, it's the hypocrisy they'd be showing.

yes hypocrisy and lying about is worse that hiring an illegal

 

[Lemon law]

It still boils down to political spin, Meg Whitman will try to spin and deflect the blame away from herself, but will it cost her enough crucial votes or not?

 

[Amused]

As you deteriorate from idiotlogue to idiot.

And the irony just keeps stacking up...

 

[Craig234]

I looked it up. It makes sense now. I was expecting a palatial estate, similar to that of Bill Gates.

I saw a list just now with Atherton the second most expensive zip code in the US.

4,000 square foot home $4.5 million:

http://www.comcast.net/slideshow/finance-mostexpensivezipcodes/10/

This puts Meg's 3,500 square foot home, if that's right, in place.

 

[bfdd]

Meh, I'd rather live in Rolling Hills.

 

[werepossum]

Whitman is a lair after living with the maid 9 years in her own house, she knew the maid can't go back to Mexico to visit family because border patrol will ask for papers. Social Security Adm send letter first to employer unless the maid open the letter for Whitman and her husband. I was surprise to hear today Sean Hannity the REAL American to defend Whitman after he 's being accusing Democrats of hiring illegals before. Shame of you Meg !!

Idiot. Illegals go back and forth at will - we have a porous border.

 

[Ns1]

yeah we know it says that but isnt that for the sake of the one time out of a hundred that it really was a typo.

shit, I must be an illegal then or incredibly lucky to be that 1/100

Fact: the letter does not imply in any way that she was an illegal. The only people trying to spin this to say so are the people in Allred's camp. Most certainly NOT the SSA or IRS.

Have you actually read the notice? Emphasis on:

Any employer that uses the information on this letter to justify taking an adverse action against an employee may violate state or federal law and be subject to legal consequences. Moreover, this letter makes no statement about your employee's immigration status

I love GA: THIS LETTER IS PROOF

of course, anyone that reads the letter will see that it says

THIS LETTER IS NOT PROOF

 

[JohnnyGage]

It's unbelievable that this really boils down to Gloria Allred(a shill's shill) trying to syphon a scandal out of someone giving someone else a job--and a well paying one at that. Including all the means necessary to be on the up and up. Like NS1 says, the letter is proof of nothing. How so? The letter itself says so!

And after the last few months of SB1070, there was this running theme from pro illegal immigration supporters that it's racist/bigoted to ask for anyone's immigration status.

 

[Fern]

my guess would be that for a problem ss# and a spanish speaking employee, yes. dont tell me you disagree

You keep remarking about the maid speaking Spanish.

You haven't read the documents presented in this thread so far. On the maid's employment application, the maid clearly states that she is NOT a US citizen. She also states that she is attending a university to learn english. Etc., etc., etc.

Given your set of imaginary facts I suppose it's reasonable to assume Whitman knew she was an illegal. However, given the real facts that have been presented so far, it's not.

Whitman may have known, but no evidence, including this SSA letter, has been put forth establishing she did. In fact, there is more evidence that she did not know (complying with payroll filings which disclose everything about this relationship to the government, using an employment agency to find an employee, paying a real wage etc).

In fact, I suggest the letter itself is more evidence they didn't know, at least at that time. We can see that her husband instructed the maid to complete the form. I.e., he was complying. If he/they knew she were illegal, why even bother with that?

Fern

 

[Patranus]

I wonder when Allred will be disbarred.
I can't imagine exposing your client to deportation or possible prosecution for forging official US documents, social security fraud, or employment fraud is look upon positively.

At least we can all rest assured that the illegal will be prosecuted for violations of California law by the state attorney general.

 

[her209]

I wonder when Allred will be disbarred.
I can't imagine exposing your client to deportation or possible prosecution for forging official US documents, social security fraud, or employment fraud is look upon positively.

At least we can all rest assured that the illegal will be prosecuted for violations of California law by the state attorney general.

http://www.ag.ca.gov/

 

[Patranus]

Why is this illegal alien trash still in the United States?
I thought Obama said there were record deportations.
Here we have an ADMITTED illegal alien.

 

[Lithium381]

necro much?

 

[Patranus]

Its the same shit they are trying to pull on Cain.
100% bullshit.

 

[Lithium381]

I agree....

 

[airdata]

Its the same shit they are trying to pull on Cain.
100% bullshit.

Because Cains own image can't hurt him? Like being for and against abortion... Or his history of working with the federal reserve. Like we really need anybody with all sorts of conflicts of interest in office.

We all saw how that went w\ bush / cheney. They treated the white house like a rapper or something. They brought their whole entourage and everybody got rich.

Hey bob, we're bombing iraq, want a contract to "rebuild" ? lul

 

[Lithium381]

Because Cains own image can't hurt him? Like being for and against abortion... Or his history of working with the federal reserve. Like we really need anybody with all sorts of conflicts of interest in office.

We all saw how that went w\ bush / cheney. They treated the white house like a rapper or something. They brought their whole entourage and everybody got rich.

Hey bob, we're bombing iraq, want a contract to "rebuild" ? lul

Conflict of interest? You mean how the American population doesn't agree with Obama on his policies? Yet he continues to put forth this BS..... a conflict of interest like that?