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Master of the obvious: NBA is rigged
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Pau is pretty good, don't know about top 2, but definitely top 5. Lakers are definitely taking the most risk trading two key pieces from 2 titles and bringing in Paul who is coming off knee surgery.
As for the Rockets, yea if you don't think Gasol is good then it blows for them. If you think he still has game then it is a good trade. Not as good as the Hornets would have made out - now it looks like they will get nothing. How can another trade for Paul work? The NBA (i.e. David Stern) just put themselves in a horrible situation.
Man, the Rockets got shafted even if you consider Pau a good player. I believe he is good, don't get me wrong, but he's soft now - he's honestly a more durable Yao Ming at this point. They were trading away a top 10 PF, top 15 SG and a draft pick, along with a decent backup PG in Dragic.
It does seem a lot for one player, but I think the Rockets GM who is a "stat geek" (ala John Hollinger for ESPN or Sabermetric guys in baseball) love Gasol.
Obviously you do, or you would have ignored the thread. :whiste:
Nobody, he will walk after the season. That is why veto'ing the trade (which is pretty defensible) sets a extremely bad precedent. Any subsequent trade that is allowed will automatically raise questions about this trade.
He's not. He's supposed to rot and be maelcontent in NO for the rest of the year to show the players and the that the Commish and the owners are the shot callers.
Who cares about the overall health of the team if you can get value for a toxic asset now. It's all about control.
OILFIELDTRASH
Lifer
CP3 is a franchise guy and 26 years old. Pau and Odom are 31/32 years old borderline all stars with declining skill sets and high salaries. Lakers were going to save 40mil in salary and get the best player in the deal with enough cap room for another superstar. How the hell this is fair to the rest of the league?
OILFIELDTRASH
Lifer
It's a bad deal for NO. That doesn't give the league the right to infuse a franchise player into their cash cow aka the LA Lakers and let the Lakers dump high dollar contracts of players that are on the decline.
potential franchise guy with a potentially bum knee who was going to leave otherwise in exchange for 3, maybe 4 starters? and the conditional pick from the knicks? what else can you get for the guy?
and saving 40 mil in salary has to do with pau's contract going for 3 years but paul's only going for 1. if they resign paul after the season there's no saving.
Supposedly there's a lot of issues in the Laker's locker room right now - Odom saying he won't come to camp, and if he does, he won't give it his all.
There's a lot of players who were being discussed in trades, hell, Richard Jefferson might have found out he was going to be amnestied by Twitter. A lot of this is because of the short off-season and the media frenzy on a short free agency.
HendrixFan
Diamond Member
Gasol is still a top 3 center in the NBA. Just two seasons ago he put up that 20-20 game in the closeout game of the Finals. His game is based on skill more than athleticism, so like Nowitzki his dropoff in performance won't be as severe as most players. Make no mistake about it, they would not have won those two championships without Gasol. Kobe is the weakest link on the team as far as price/performance and how much he dominates the ball versus what he brings to the team. Of course they can't ever trade Kobe.
CP3 should be a franchise guy in his prime but he peaked 3 years ago. He missed half a season because of his knee after that, then the following year played a full season but at 70% capacity. You can tell he was going easy by his numbers and his style of play. Once the playoffs came around he turned on the "franchise guy" light and was amazing again. I just don't think he can play at that level for a full season anymore.
After that huge trade, the Lakers had a $9M trade exception. That isn't enough to land another superstar. If they dealt Bynum they could fit in someone else, but after trading away their second and third best player in Gasol and Odom, their fourth best player isn't much trade bait for a team dealing a superstar.
Assuming the appeal of the veto doesn't go through, the Lakers dodged a bullet. They should get on the phone right now and start trying to land Howard. It makes more sense to trade 2 seven footers for one, then they can focus on amnesty'ing Artest/World Peace so they can pursue a deal for a lockdown wing defender. Those come alot cheaper than an elite center like Howard. Howard to the Lakers would be a much better deal for them than CP3, not just because height matters in basketball, but also because Howard has shown to be able to play injury free.
All that said I hate the Lakers and David Stern so this is fun to watch.
ghost recon88
Diamond Member
WT
Diamond Member
Any chance we can just go ahead and cancel the rest of the shortened season at this point ?? The NBA is such a mess right now that it will be months before I am interested in seeing what they have to offer.
The decisions being made on both sides are just laughable and greedy, so I say give it up and cancel the season.
The decisions being made on both sides are just laughable and greedy, so I say give it up and cancel the season.
HendrixFan
Diamond Member
Artest was the best wing defender money could buy, but he isn't even close anymore. I have tons of games from last season still saved where the Lakers get killed on defense because Artest, Kobe and Fisher can no longer stay in front of their man. Watch the Mavs/Lakers series again, the players get into the paint at will opening up wide open threes. Artest has put on alot of weight, so he can muscle larger 2s and 3s, but he can't stay in front of anyone quick.
That is why CP3 won't help this Lakers team, he is undersized as a PG and despite a nice steals number he doesn't play good defense. Losing 2 seven footers as a back line defense while still having a non existent wing defense is a recipe for a first round flameout if they get matched up against the wrong team (any young team with athleticism).
Imported
Lifer
Good article.. and now CP3 will just opt-out at the end of the season and go wherever the hell he pleases with NO getting nothing in return. I don't think NO will be getting a better deal than what was accepted and denied.
HendrixFan
Diamond Member
I'm on the other side. I can't wait for the season to start, nor can I wait for them to finally allow me to buy the season pass. Last season was the best I have ever seen and this one is promising to be even better. I have more games saved from last season than I had from the previous four combined.
Well said.
Well that...and everything else too. I don't think NO was robbed in this at all. I think they came out the best of anyone. I'm not sure what to think about Houston's position. They gave up a lot, but then next year they would have had a very low salaried roster with a lot of room for free agent acquisition. So they gave up a lot of pieces to land a big fish next year. Big gamble, but not as big as what LA was taking IMHO.
Had that deal gone through, they'd be left with a Diva SG who's had almost 2x the amount of seasons under his belt than many other players his age. A center with silly putty for knee joints. Then add a PG who's got some questionable health concerns of his own. And then not much else. Not enough room to land Howard and not enough trade bait to get him. LA gave up 14 feet to gain 6.
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Eh, I wouldn't put him top 3 just because of points / rebounds. His defense isn't that great anymore, but it could just be the system he's in.
It's not just his points or rebounds. He's a great passer, not a liability at the FT line, and can step out an hit 15 foot jumpers. All are things that Howard and many other more physical centers are not.
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