Master of the obvious: NBA is rigged

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dougp

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Reports are saying Paul won't report to training camp.

Just shows the kind of player he is. I'd take quite a few other PG's over him, because of the fact that he doesn't play defense and his attitude is terrible.
 

kevman

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Good glad the fucking deal got nullified, I'm tire of the fucking lakers and their bullshit.
 

HopJokey

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The funny thing is this made the Lakers worse. They give up Odom and Gasol for Paul.
 

zinfamous

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http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/217188/Paul_Contacts_Hunter_To_Explore_Legal_Options

Chris Paul is fucking snake, and I hate Billy Hunter too for that matter. NBA needs a franchise tag like what the NFL has. NBA is way too player powered where they can demand trades and just walk when their contract is up without leaving their old team any compensation.

poor Chris Paul. He saw the glitter and glamor of high-dollar LA whores in his future, but for only 4 hours.

Now he is grossly upset.

:(
 

a123456

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The funny thing is this made the Lakers worse. They give up Odom and Gasol for Paul.

It would have made them better if they could have gotten Howard to fill the big man role since Bynum can't stay healthy.

NO can get more for Paul, but it wasn't a total imbalance. The pieces they were getting back were enough for them to make the playoffs. The trade seemed relatively fair in the sense that the Lakers gave up 2 good players to get a great player.

Eh, franchise tag is mixed for me. They're killing Forte with it so it works both ways.

I'm sure Stern will be happier when Paul walks in a year and the Hornets get nothing instead of all the pieces they would have gotten.
 
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Via

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Maybe I'm crazy, but this seemed like a decent deal for a pudwacker that was walking anyway.

I'd love Kevin Martin on the Bulls.
 

HendrixFan

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There are a TON of different stories about who pulled the plug on the deal, but at the end of the day the Lakers are better for not having CP3. As mentioned he has bad knees and probably can't make it through the compressed season intact.

Kobe had to go to a different country to get an experimental surgery done on his knees since it wasn't allowed here in the states. He is already just a shell of his old self, though he still takes way too many shots.

Artest, or World Peace, isn't the same player he used to be either. The Lakers got killed all season long by penetration despite having their 3 seven footers. The problem was that ball reversal and penetration into the paint was enough to beat the slow footed wing defenders the Lakers trotted out. People enjoyed blowing by Fisher, Artest and Kobe. The Mavs got open looks all series against the slow footed wing crew. CP3 does nothing to fix that glaring problem.

Then you compound the error by getting rid of Gasol (the guy who won their 'ship against Boston) and the matchup nightmare Odom? Ya he is streaky but those aren't two guys worth giving up for a short and injury prone PG. Especially when you are only left with Bynum in the middle, who despite being young can't put anything close to a whole season together. He is just a small step up from Greg Oden in the injury department. At the very least it left the cupboard pretty bare for trade bait to get D12.

This week of free agency is really making my head spin, and it has only just begun.
 

child of wonder

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Glad the deal got nixed. So sick of the big market teams like the Lakers and Knicks acting like all the good players in the league are owed to them somehow.

Fuck the Lakers.
 

HendrixFan

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Well, just goes to show the NBA is indeed rigged, just not in the way the OP thought.

If they can get STAT for CP3, that is a far better deal. The NBA took over the Hornets and own them. Rigged? Yes, but it has been since they took ownership of the team and refused a sale because the buyer wasn't bidding enough. They were trying to keep the team valuations up.

The NBA should contract, but they won't. So we are left with them owning a team, and to be honest it isn't in the best interest of the Hornets to make that deal. You don't trade a dollar for three quarters. Not if there are better offers on the table.
 

a123456

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Parity is nice to talk about in a utopia, but it's not really feasible in the NBA. Besides the fact that there are too many teams, the NBA doesn't have the fan base and sports structure that the NFL has to be able to support an NFL team in almost any town.

The NBA had one of its highest revenue/ratings seasons last year overall in the last many years since Jordan because of the super team Heat. People may hate it but the super teams generate so many more eyeballs than a bunch of average to good teams. I'm pretty sure the Heat sold out all their road games too if only to hate more on them.

I haven't been following the Paul thing much, but which non big market teams have made better offers for Paul? He could just veto the trade anyway by refusing to sign an extension and then just leave after this season anyway.
 

HendrixFan

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I haven't been following the Paul thing much, but which non big market teams have made better offers for Paul? He could just veto the trade anyway by refusing to sign an extension and then just leave after this season anyway.

The only small market team that has rumored (take it with a grain of salt) to try and land Paul was OKC. There was talk they were dangling Westbrook as bait. That would be a good deal for NO, since as you said he is gonna leave anyway. OKC would lose Westbrook's upside and bring in Paul's bad knees. The benefit for OKC would be that Westbrook may not last long there anyway as he seems incapable of understanding it is Durant's team.
 

Via

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I just looked at this again and thought it over.

This was a great deal for the Hornets (I just saw they would have gotten a 1st round pick as well). I can only imagine that behind the scenes the grumbling was about the fact that it allowed the Lakers to clear enough salary to get Howard, not about the Paul trade itself.
 

OrByte

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Sure there is parity in the NBA

You have New York in the east and LA in the west.

Fvck the rest. :)