Man in critical condition for using word n*****

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Perknose

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How Doppel describes what happened in the OP:

Apparently was saying that n*****s were responsible for him losing his job, some guy thought it was prudent to hit him and thus did so, got punched in the face, is knocked out and smashes head on concrete.

How the article he links to describes what happened:

Dennis Reddish, 25, and his girlfriend, who are both African-American, were sitting at Benny's Burrito on Greenwich Avenue in the West Village just before 6pm when a white man drunkenly stumbled into their table.


The New York Post reported that when Reddish got up to help, the inebriated stranger began making racially charged remarks.

At one point, witnesses told the New York Daily News that the man said: 'You n*****s are why I lost my job.' Witnesses earlier said he claimed to have recently lost a job at Goldman Sachs.

Another source told the Post that the unnamed man was also heard saying in reference to Reddish, 'This n****r wants to fight me!'.

Smoblikat eagerly responds to the OP's version thusly:

SHHHHHHHHHHH, your logic is getting in the way of all the emotion.

What logic? All I see is sly deception from the OP. :(
 

buckshot24

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Foreseeable? No. In a civil society you should never expect to be assaulted. You could say racial slurs at me all day long and I wouldnt hit you. Its because im civilized. Obviously there are others who have no self control and shoukd be removed from society.
If not forseeable then at the minimum his actions greatly increased the likelihood of getting assaulted.
 

lotus503

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Like punching a guy in the face and assaulting him and not "foreseeing" getting shot???

Not justifying what the guy said but the guy who punched the victim escalated the situation into a physical confrontation.

Yup and he needs to deal with the legality of those actions, doesn't make it shocking the guy got socked though.
 

Doppel

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How Doppel describes what happened in the OP:



How the article he links to describes what happened:



Smoblikat eagerly responds to the OP's version thusly:



What logic? All I see is sly deception from the OP. :(
Quoted for bullshit.

I said
[guy was] saying that n*****s were responsible for him losing his job

In article he said
You n*****s are why I lost my job

There is a reason why you're the first to bring up this absurd semantic.

You realize the two didn't work together, right? And therefore his "you n*****s" is not YOU as in YOU did it--literally you are one of the people who contributed to me losing my job, but "you people", as in "n*****s", as in they mean the same thing.

Anyway, this is minutiae in the extreme.
 

Dari

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The drunk got exactly what he deserved. Go around making inciteful and hateful comments, expect to get dealt with. You can't threaten to kill the president without consequences and you damn sure cannot use racially-charged words and expect to get a civil response. I hope he is brain damaged.
 

BoberFett

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Massively intoxicated man in critical condition after provoking a fight by screaming racial slurs in the face of a person who was trying to help him.

Hitting someone is never okay, and the guy who assaulted him should most certainly have been arrested. I hope he recovers and is just fine, but getting punched in the face is a pretty foreseeable outcome from his actions.

I know right? He shouldn't have been wearing that skirt, he was just asking to get raped. I mean punched.
 

Doppel

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It wasn't 'meaningless', asshole.
Damn near anything a complete stranger, who is DRUNK, says to you is meaningless. They are just flailing about verbally, they don't give a shit who they are talking to or what they are saying.
 

werepossum

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Massively intoxicated man in critical condition after provoking a fight by screaming racial slurs in the face of a person who was trying to help him.

Hitting someone is never okay, and the guy who assaulted him should most certainly have been arrested. I hope he recovers and is just fine, but getting punched in the face is a pretty foreseeable outcome from his actions.
I think a punch in the face is a reasonable response.
 

Dari

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Damn near anything a complete stranger, who is DRUNK, says to you is meaningless. They are just flailing about verbally, they don't give a shit who they are talking to or what they are saying.

Wrong. In vino in vitro...
 

Doppel

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Wrong. In vino in vitro...
Oh, I bet he does hate black people, but as you say, it's the wine that brings the honesty. The guy who attacked him is probably around sober people similar to his victim all the time; he cannot fight the world.
 

justoh

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Why's it relevant that he was drunk? Assaulting sober people is okay? Drunk people? What's the relevance of whether or not being assaulted was a foreseeable consequence of his words? Assault is always a foreseeable consequence of our interactions, which is why it's prohibited. Like, duh, guys, really. Abu dhabi my awesome dude.
 

TerryMathews

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The drunk got exactly what he deserved. Go around making inciteful and hateful comments, expect to get dealt with. You can't threaten to kill the president without consequences and you damn sure cannot use racially-charged words and expect to get a civil response. I hope he is brain damaged.

Quoted for the fact you are a worthless human being.
 

ivwshane

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I would have been scared for my life had a drunk man started verbally assaulting me, I then would have killed him in self defense.

Being scared for my life makes it ok to kill people;)
 

Lithium381

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The drunk got exactly what he deserved. Go around making inciteful and hateful comments, expect to get dealt with. You can't threaten to kill the president without consequences and you damn sure cannot use racially-charged words and expect to get a civil response. I hope he is brain damaged.


sad.....

someone made a stupid comment while drunk and you hope he's brain damaged? Man, hope that doesn't happen to everyone who says something stupid while drunk...

what happened to self control?
 

hans007

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Foreseeable? No. In a civil society you should never expect to be assaulted. You could say racial slurs at me all day long and I wouldnt hit you. Its because im civilized. Obviously there are others who have no self control and shoukd be removed from society.

So I'm pretty sure most people would react quite negatively.

You might just be a giant pussy
 

Nebor

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So I'm pretty sure most people would react quite negatively.

You might just be a giant pussy

Grow up. Words don't justify violence in real life. If you assault someone, don't be surprised if they kill you.
 

Dari

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Grow up. Words don't justify violence in real life. If you assault someone, don't be surprised if they kill you.

Of course they do. You're thinking via your own narrow racist scope. History is full of examples where words incited people to violence, whether it was threats, declarations, "jokes", oral, written, etc...

There's a thread in OP about this guy killing a black teenager in an SUV and your racist buddies are saying that words or imaginary shotguns are enough to justify homicide (of a black person, no doubt). I'm sure, in that instance, you would jump on their bandwagon:rolleyes:
 

Doppel

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Of course they do. You're thinking via your own narrow racist scope. History is full of examples where words incited people to violence, whether it was threats, declarations, "jokes", oral, written, etc...

There's a thread in OP about this guy killing a black teenager in an SUV and your racist buddies are saying that words or imaginary shotguns are enough to justify homicide (of a black person, no doubt). I'm sure, in that instance, you would jump on their bandwagon:rolleyes:
You're wrong and the guy who did this will rightfully be convicted and spend time behind bars.
 

DeadFred

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Perfect example for living by Gen. James Mattis' famous quote- "Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet."

A polite professional person would not be screaming slurs that might get them punched and having the situation escalate.