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HeroOfPellinor

HeroOfPellinor

Lifer
Dec 27, 2001
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Originally posted by: joshsquall
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Ana Lucia did not shoot Shannon. Shannon wasn't even shot. Stop it at the exact moment when Shannon turns around and you can see that she was stabbed.

There are two theories about this:
a) Sayid/Shannon aren't even in the same area as Ana Lucia. Ana Lucia shot someone else, but was close enough for Sayid to hear the gunshot.
b) Ana Lucia shot at whoever was attacking Shannon.

However, option b) does not make sense. When Sayid looks up, he sees a person on the edge of the screen holding a gun in their left hand, in a relaxed position. When we see Ana Lucia, she is holding the gun in her right hand, with her left hand below reinforcing her grip. She is also in a very defensive position.

Therefore, Ana Lucia and Sayid are not in the same area. Ana Lucia shot at someone else entirely. There is another person standing there with a gun pointed at Sayid. Most likely, this person is: Ethan Rom. He was listed as a guest star (William Mapother) in the episode, but never appeared anywhere else. I think that's his arm holding the gun.
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Ethan was killed by Charlie. Shot 4 or 5 times in the chest and then buried.
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Crazier sh!t has happened.

You also don't want to get into the duplicate theory that a lot of people have about Lost, which could be one way of explaining that.
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It happened before where a name was in the credits and they weren't in the show. Scenes get cut and whatnot. For all we know he was going to appear in a flashback sequence.
 
ThePresence

ThePresence

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Nov 19, 2001
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I was always thinking about how great a casting job they did until I saw Michelle Rodriguez. She totally does not fit.
 
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Medicine Bear

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Originally posted by: joshsquall
Ana Lucia did not shoot Shannon. Shannon wasn't even shot. Stop it at the exact moment when Shannon turns around and you can see that she was stabbed.

There are two theories about this:
a) Sayid/Shannon aren't even in the same area as Ana Lucia. Ana Lucia shot someone else, but was close enough for Sayid to hear the gunshot.
b) Ana Lucia shot at whoever was attacking Shannon.

However, option b) does not make sense. When Sayid looks up, he sees a person on the edge of the screen holding a gun in their left hand, in a relaxed position. When we see Ana Lucia, she is holding the gun in her right hand, with her left hand below reinforcing her grip. She is also in a very defensive position.

Therefore, Ana Lucia and Sayid are not in the same area. Ana Lucia shot at someone else entirely. There is another person standing there with a gun pointed at Sayid. Most likely, this person is: Ethan Rom. He was listed as a guest star (William Mapother) in the episode, but never appeared anywhere else. I think that's his arm holding the gun.
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Interesting

 
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zimu

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Jun 15, 2001
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Originally posted by: Medicine Bear
Originally posted by: habib89
did anyone record the others backward talk? the noises from the forrest?
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Wondering that myself.
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AUDIO CLIP of walt saying "they're coming and they're close" (actual soundtrack reversed)

AUDIO CLIP of the forest scene from the perspective of michael, the biatch wannabe etc's group. once again, original soundtrack reversed

AUDIO CLIP of forest scene from shanon's perspective, reversed.

i can easily tell the they're coming and they're close thing-- but the forest whispers i can't make out. anyone who can tinker with the sound a bit or have extraordinary hearing? ;)

 
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zimu

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Jun 15, 2001
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Originally posted by: joshsquall
Ana Lucia did not shoot Shannon. Shannon wasn't even shot. Stop it at the exact moment when Shannon turns around and you can see that she was stabbed.

There are two theories about this:
a) Sayid/Shannon aren't even in the same area as Ana Lucia. Ana Lucia shot someone else, but was close enough for Sayid to hear the gunshot.
b) Ana Lucia shot at whoever was attacking Shannon.

However, option b) does not make sense. When Sayid looks up, he sees a person on the edge of the screen holding a gun in their left hand, in a relaxed position. When we see Ana Lucia, she is holding the gun in her right hand, with her left hand below reinforcing her grip. She is also in a very defensive position.

Therefore, Ana Lucia and Sayid are not in the same area. Ana Lucia shot at someone else entirely. There is another person standing there with a gun pointed at Sayid. Most likely, this person is: Ethan Rom. He was listed as a guest star (William Mapother) in the episode, but never appeared anywhere else. I think that's his arm holding the gun.
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ok sometimes these theories just go too far.....

just fired weapon- notice the barrel of the gun- it was just shot.

The biatch is lowering her weapon...

... down to her side

no, there's no ethan rom who's there and then just disappears or something. come on...
 
Phoenix86

Phoenix86

Lifer
May 21, 2003
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Originally posted by: zimu
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Ana Lucia did not shoot Shannon. Shannon wasn't even shot. Stop it at the exact moment when Shannon turns around and you can see that she was stabbed.

There are two theories about this:
a) Sayid/Shannon aren't even in the same area as Ana Lucia. Ana Lucia shot someone else, but was close enough for Sayid to hear the gunshot.
b) Ana Lucia shot at whoever was attacking Shannon.

However, option b) does not make sense. When Sayid looks up, he sees a person on the edge of the screen holding a gun in their left hand, in a relaxed position. When we see Ana Lucia, she is holding the gun in her right hand, with her left hand below reinforcing her grip. She is also in a very defensive position.

Therefore, Ana Lucia and Sayid are not in the same area. Ana Lucia shot at someone else entirely. There is another person standing there with a gun pointed at Sayid. Most likely, this person is: Ethan Rom. He was listed as a guest star (William Mapother) in the episode, but never appeared anywhere else. I think that's his arm holding the gun.
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ok sometimes these theories just go too far.....

just fired weapon- notice the barrel of the gun- it was just shot.

The biatch is lowering her weapon...

... down to her side

no, there's no ethan rom who's there and then just disappears or something. come on...
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It may be a continuity error, but the last pic shows the gun in the person's left hand. In the first two, it's obvious she's holding the gun right handed.
 
Muadib

Muadib

Lifer
May 30, 2000
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Originally posted by: Medicine Bear
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Ana Lucia did not shoot Shannon. Shannon wasn't even shot. Stop it at the exact moment when Shannon turns around and you can see that she was stabbed.

There are two theories about this:
a) Sayid/Shannon aren't even in the same area as Ana Lucia. Ana Lucia shot someone else, but was close enough for Sayid to hear the gunshot.
b) Ana Lucia shot at whoever was attacking Shannon.

However, option b) does not make sense. When Sayid looks up, he sees a person on the edge of the screen holding a gun in their left hand, in a relaxed position. When we see Ana Lucia, she is holding the gun in her right hand, with her left hand below reinforcing her grip. She is also in a very defensive position.

Therefore, Ana Lucia and Sayid are not in the same area. Ana Lucia shot at someone else entirely. There is another person standing there with a gun pointed at Sayid. Most likely, this person is: Ethan Rom. He was listed as a guest star (William Mapother) in the episode, but never appeared anywhere else. I think that's his arm holding the gun.
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Interesting
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No, it's not, it's a bunch of bull. First off William Mapother is not listed as a guest star. Second, thats Ana's arm. The camera pans out to her holding the gun. Come on!!! I know I'm not the only one with Tivo.

EDIT: I just saw the post by zimu. He is correct.
 
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Czar

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: FreshPrince
walt is officially evil...

he lead shannon into that shot! :|
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I would say good, he sushed them, i took it, stay silent, stay still... as in dont come screaming after me
 
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effee

Golden Member
Sep 4, 2004
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Does Shannon being able to see visions of Walt have something to do with Jack being able to see his dead father back in season 1?
 
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Kev

Lifer
Dec 17, 2001
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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Ana Lucia did not shoot Shannon. Shannon wasn't even shot. Stop it at the exact moment when Shannon turns around and you can see that she was stabbed.

There are two theories about this:
a) Sayid/Shannon aren't even in the same area as Ana Lucia. Ana Lucia shot someone else, but was close enough for Sayid to hear the gunshot.
b) Ana Lucia shot at whoever was attacking Shannon.

However, option b) does not make sense. When Sayid looks up, he sees a person on the edge of the screen holding a gun in their left hand, in a relaxed position. When we see Ana Lucia, she is holding the gun in her right hand, with her left hand below reinforcing her grip. She is also in a very defensive position.

Therefore, Ana Lucia and Sayid are not in the same area. Ana Lucia shot at someone else entirely. There is another person standing there with a gun pointed at Sayid. Most likely, this person is: Ethan Rom. He was listed as a guest star (William Mapother) in the episode, but never appeared anywhere else. I think that's his arm holding the gun.
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Ethan was killed by Charlie. Shot 4 or 5 times in the chest and then buried.
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Actually, I was poking around the Lost site (www.oceanic-air.com) and somehow I found a puzzle with the words "Ethan Rom" and you have to rearrange his name to "Other Man" - when you do that, it shows a quick flash of the scene where Walt gets kidnapped - he was one of the pirates that was on the boat.
 
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Schfifty Five

Lifer
Oct 20, 2005
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Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Ana Lucia did not shoot Shannon. Shannon wasn't even shot. Stop it at the exact moment when Shannon turns around and you can see that she was stabbed.

There are two theories about this:
a) Sayid/Shannon aren't even in the same area as Ana Lucia. Ana Lucia shot someone else, but was close enough for Sayid to hear the gunshot.
b) Ana Lucia shot at whoever was attacking Shannon.

However, option b) does not make sense. When Sayid looks up, he sees a person on the edge of the screen holding a gun in their left hand, in a relaxed position. When we see Ana Lucia, she is holding the gun in her right hand, with her left hand below reinforcing her grip. She is also in a very defensive position.

Therefore, Ana Lucia and Sayid are not in the same area. Ana Lucia shot at someone else entirely. There is another person standing there with a gun pointed at Sayid. Most likely, this person is: Ethan Rom. He was listed as a guest star (William Mapother) in the episode, but never appeared anywhere else. I think that's his arm holding the gun.
Click to expand...

Ethan was killed by Charlie. Shot 4 or 5 times in the chest and then buried.
Click to expand...

Actually, I was poking around the Lost site (www.oceanic-air.com) and somehow I found a puzzle with the words "Ethan Rom" and you have to rearrange his name to "Other Man" - when you do that, it shows a quick flash of the scene where Walt gets kidnapped - he was one of the pirates that was on the boat.
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Damn was he really?

How many Ethan Roms are there?
 
Gunslinger08

Gunslinger08

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
13,234
2
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Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: Medicine Bear
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Ana Lucia did not shoot Shannon. Shannon wasn't even shot. Stop it at the exact moment when Shannon turns around and you can see that she was stabbed.

There are two theories about this:
a) Sayid/Shannon aren't even in the same area as Ana Lucia. Ana Lucia shot someone else, but was close enough for Sayid to hear the gunshot.
b) Ana Lucia shot at whoever was attacking Shannon.

However, option b) does not make sense. When Sayid looks up, he sees a person on the edge of the screen holding a gun in their left hand, in a relaxed position. When we see Ana Lucia, she is holding the gun in her right hand, with her left hand below reinforcing her grip. She is also in a very defensive position.

Therefore, Ana Lucia and Sayid are not in the same area. Ana Lucia shot at someone else entirely. There is another person standing there with a gun pointed at Sayid. Most likely, this person is: Ethan Rom. He was listed as a guest star (William Mapother) in the episode, but never appeared anywhere else. I think that's his arm holding the gun.
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Interesting
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No, it's not, it's a bunch of bull. First off William Mapother is not listed as a guest star. Second, thats Ana's arm. The camera pans out to her holding the gun. Come on!!! I know I'm not the only one with Tivo.

EDIT: I just saw the post by zimu. He is correct.
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Watch the credits after the episode.

Also, she's holding it right handed, then lowers it, but you can't see which hand ends up with it. She would have had to fumble around with it a little to switch the main hand holding it, so we can assume it ended up in her right hand.
 
Gunslinger08

Gunslinger08

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
13,234
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Originally posted by: zimu
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Ana Lucia did not shoot Shannon. Shannon wasn't even shot. Stop it at the exact moment when Shannon turns around and you can see that she was stabbed.

There are two theories about this:
a) Sayid/Shannon aren't even in the same area as Ana Lucia. Ana Lucia shot someone else, but was close enough for Sayid to hear the gunshot.
b) Ana Lucia shot at whoever was attacking Shannon.

However, option b) does not make sense. When Sayid looks up, he sees a person on the edge of the screen holding a gun in their left hand, in a relaxed position. When we see Ana Lucia, she is holding the gun in her right hand, with her left hand below reinforcing her grip. She is also in a very defensive position.

Therefore, Ana Lucia and Sayid are not in the same area. Ana Lucia shot at someone else entirely. There is another person standing there with a gun pointed at Sayid. Most likely, this person is: Ethan Rom. He was listed as a guest star (William Mapother) in the episode, but never appeared anywhere else. I think that's his arm holding the gun.
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ok sometimes these theories just go too far.....

just fired weapon- notice the barrel of the gun- it was just shot.

The biatch is lowering her weapon...

... down to her side

no, there's no ethan rom who's there and then just disappears or something. come on...
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I didn't say she didn't fire the gun.

I didn't say she didn't lower her gun.

I didn't say she didn't lower her gun to her side.

She didn't lower her gun to her left side.

Shannon wasn't even shot, she was stabbed.
 
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UpgradeFailure

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Feb 29, 2004
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Can't she have gotten shot in the back, and that's why her front looks all weird and stabish, because it's the exit wound?
 
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