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johnnqq

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In any case, I think they left it so it could go either way depending on what will ultimately be most convenient for the continuation of the plot down the road

i would agree with you but the writers (maybe actors too) finished the second season.
 

Atomicus

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Originally posted by: tami
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: Modeps
It wasnt a gut shot, she was blasted in the middle of her chest by Michelle "I can only play one Role and it sucks" Rodriguez. I hope Sayid goes apesh!t and pistol whips her.

the worst part about her shooting Shannon is that, a few minutes earlier in the show, she explicitly tells Michael "You think 1 bullet from a gun will do anything to stop the others? It won't do anything." and then she goes on, to fire 1 shot, at a person whom we are assuming, she thought was the "others", killing shannon.

hmm ... kinda fishy if you ask me ...

...i fail to see the fishiness in that.

Ditto.

Human nature to panic and react took hold of her, causing her to shoot at whatever she saw.

Shannon appears out of bush, BANG.

Disbelief sets in; Sayid picks up a twig and proceeds to impale the biotch numerous times until she dies.

Sawyer raises the the strength to jump up to his feet and shout out praises and hallelujah for killing the psycho-queen. Echo conjures up some voodoo magic & raises Shannon back from the dead.
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Vin0134
This episode is not the "one episode people will be talking about for weeks" as promised by the commercial. Ana-Lucia shoots Shannon, thinking she was the Others. Shannon dies. What is there to talk about? That now Sayid saw Walt too?

Technically, I don't think he actually admitted to seeing Walt. Because, clearly, Walt isn't literally running around the island blowing out candles and speaking backwards. If he did see Walt, maybe it was because admitting he believed her somehow tied him into whatever power she has to receive Walt's communications.

In any case, I think they left it so it could go either way depending on what will ultimately be most convenient for the continuation of the plot down the road. :)
huh ? Sayid saw Walt as they embraced at the end just before she ran after him (Walt). Sayid was the one who initiated the "awkward stare" behind Shannon...
 

Atomicus

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Originally posted by: rh71
Sayid was the one who initiated the "awkward stare" behind Shannon...

I had a similar debate with my roommate last night after Lost. He said that when the camera angle showed it from Sayid's POV, Walt wasn't in the brush. But then when Shannon turns around, he appears. I then told him that if Sayid doesn't see Walt, why the hell would he turn around to listen to the voices, then turn back to stare at nothing? Obviously he was staring at something he saw.... Walt perhaps?
 

Hankerton

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Originally posted by: Kipper
Originally posted by: purbeast0
This episode is great! I really like it!

Also, words CANNOT express how much I FVCKING HATE Michelle Rodriguez. Her tough girl act is just so forced and she cannot pull it off to save her fvcking life. ITS GETTING OLD SINCE SHE PLAYS IT HORRIBLY IN EVERY FVCKING MOVIE SHES IN!!!

GOD DAMN I HATE HER IT PISSES ME OFF!!!

:| :| :| :| :| :| :|

Thank you...her acting is so bad...

I couldn't agree more, and we certainly aren't a minority vote. I wonder if Michelle has been notified that people hate her as an actress? Don't they do tests for stuff like that?

 

Accipiter22

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you guys realize shannon said 'do you see him' and he nodded...right? Or did I just imagine that??


but yeah, i can't STAND the hispanic chick with the tough act thing...I hope sawyer drowns her in a puddle of pelican feces next episode. I'm glad they're finally revealing a little bit more on teh show though, like what happened to the tail section. I was getting tired of plot lines just randomly dropping. The cast is what keeps it together though, like honestly likable characters, or ones you can really HATE. It's like the anti-invasion, where all the actors are horrid at pulling off their roles. Lost actually has a good crew that pulls of their roles great....all but teh hispanic chick....I think the dr. needs to give her some hard luvvin to loosen her up....or drown her in pelican feces
 

purbeast0

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Originally posted by: Atomicus
Originally posted by: tami
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: Modeps
It wasnt a gut shot, she was blasted in the middle of her chest by Michelle "I can only play one Role and it sucks" Rodriguez. I hope Sayid goes apesh!t and pistol whips her.

the worst part about her shooting Shannon is that, a few minutes earlier in the show, she explicitly tells Michael "You think 1 bullet from a gun will do anything to stop the others? It won't do anything." and then she goes on, to fire 1 shot, at a person whom we are assuming, she thought was the "others", killing shannon.

hmm ... kinda fishy if you ask me ...

...i fail to see the fishiness in that.

Ditto.

Human nature to panic and react took hold of her, causing her to shoot at whatever she saw.

Shannon appears out of bush, BANG.

Disbelief sets in; Sayid picks up a twig and proceeds to impale the biotch numerous times until she dies.

Sawyer raises the the strength to jump up to his feet and shout out praises and hallelujah for killing the psycho-queen. Echo conjures up some voodoo magic & raises Shannon back from the dead.

the fishiness i was talking about was the fact that Michelle Rodriguez said she wouldn't waste a single bullet on "the others" because it wouldn't even effect them at all. So her shooting 1 bullet, in my eyes, meant that she knew it wasn't one of "the others" and that she knew it was a normal person.
 

Phoenix86

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Vin0134
This episode is not the "one episode people will be talking about for weeks" as promised by the commercial. Ana-Lucia shoots Shannon, thinking she was the Others. Shannon dies. What is there to talk about? That now Sayid saw Walt too?

Technically, I don't think he actually admitted to seeing Walt. Because, clearly, Walt isn't literally running around the island blowing out candles and speaking backwards. If he did see Walt, maybe it was because admitting he believed her somehow tied him into whatever power she has to receive Walt's communications.

In any case, I think they left it so it could go either way depending on what will ultimately be most convenient for the continuation of the plot down the road. :)

I think Walt was really there when Sayid saw him. Every time Shannon saw Walt he was dripping wet. This was out of place in the scenes (no water), and led me to think when she did find he, he's be wet. In last night's episode, guess what? It's pouring rain, and everyone's dipping wet...
 

Atomicus

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Originally posted by: purbeast0

the fishiness i was talking about was the fact that Michelle Rodriguez said she wouldn't waste a single bullet on "the others" because it wouldn't even effect them at all. So her shooting 1 bullet, in my eyes, meant that she knew it wasn't one of "the others" and that she knew it was a normal person.

What you say you'll do during a time of crisis doesn't necessarily translate to said action during a real time of crisis.

Remember those fun firedrills during grade school? In a real fire, chances are you'll RUN FOR YOUR FKN LIFE. Same here, she said she wouldn't waste the bullet, but when panic and the mindset of fight-or-flight kicks in, she shot because of her instincts, not because she wanted to IMO.

And recall the look on Rodriguez's face as she looked upon Sayid embracing Shannon. I don't think she was smiling.... more of a solemn, shocked emotion. Like "WTF DID I DO?"
 

RaDragon

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You guys are silly for being too impassioned towards that Ana Lucia character, calling her a bitch and whatnot. :p Hello, so what if she keeps getting typecasted into the same stereotypical role? Can you blame her for that? If you've also ever seen Punk'D where she was the victim, you'd see that she *is* as badass in real-life. Anyway, I'm annoyed by her character, too, but I'm not going around getting worked up about it because that's clearly how the writers wanted to portray her. You do see a bit of her humanity when Walt's dad asks her why they're so "scared" of The Others.


I think Sayid did see Walt. He was clearly unnerved and sat there for a while before getting up (and stumbling in the process) to run after Shannon.


As for Jack in the hospital, my sis and I are speculating that Jack did select his (future) wife over the dude.


Anyone else notice how most of the characters have some qualm about their family? Most of them, anyway, except for Kate and that Aussie lady with the baby?

Jack + his father
Sun + her father
Jin + his father
Locke + his father
Shannon + her father
Walt + his father
Hugo + his mother
Boone + his mother
Charlie + his brother


 

Bozono

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Originally posted by: brunswickite
Sayid is getting some ass


Not no more!!! Why'd they take out the best looking girl though? Kinda dumb; I'm gonna miss her sassy brown eyes.:(
 

Phoenix86

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Originally posted by: RaDragonAnyone else notice how most of the characters have some qualm about their family? Most of them, anyway, except for Kate and that Aussie lady with the baby?
Good point.

What was Kate's motivation to get her toy plane thing, didn't that have to do with her father?

Clair's (aussie) issue is with her kid, and the whole adoption thing. ;)
 

Bozono

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What I find retarded about the show is how there are no spare computer terminals in the hatch. If I build a device capable of serious worldly damage every 108 minutes you can be damn sure I'm gonna stock a couple extra front-ends in the storage.
 
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Originally posted by: johnnqq
Originally posted by: rh71
Sayid was the one who initiated the "awkward stare" behind Shannon...

very true. so he DID see walt.

Walt was taken by The Others. But the whispering people might be a whole different entity. I thought the French lady stated that during the episode where she captures Sayid? Plus, Ana Lucia said The Others don't make any sound and everytime The Others walk by anybody they aren't whispering. Why would he be with them and be wandering around free? Why would he be appearing to Shannon in visions if he was just a short jog from the camp? Why would he go to Shannon and Sayid that last time when his dad was a couple dozen yards away in the other direction if he was physically there?

A lot of the show is about faith and maybe his faith in Shannon tied him, as I said earlier, into her gift or whatever. But I'm still not sure he actually saw him. It wouldn't have been like Sayid to stand there in shock and not address Walt or acknoweldge Shannon's question.
 

Cattlegod

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food for thought:

syed and michelle ( the chick that supposedly shot shannon) were never seen in the same frame. it is possible that she didn't shoot her.
 
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Originally posted by: Cattlegod
food for thought:

syed and michelle ( the chick that supposedly shot shannon) were never seen in the same frame. it is possible that she didn't shoot her.

They were looking each other in the eye the last scene. And she had the gun pointed outward and I think the barrel was even smoking.
 

Gunslinger08

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Ana Lucia did not shoot Shannon. Shannon wasn't even shot. Stop it at the exact moment when Shannon turns around and you can see that she was stabbed.

There are two theories about this:
a) Sayid/Shannon aren't even in the same area as Ana Lucia. Ana Lucia shot someone else, but was close enough for Sayid to hear the gunshot.
b) Ana Lucia shot at whoever was attacking Shannon.

However, option b) does not make sense. When Sayid looks up, he sees a person on the edge of the screen holding a gun in their left hand, in a relaxed position. When we see Ana Lucia, she is holding the gun in her right hand, with her left hand below reinforcing her grip. She is also in a very defensive position.

Therefore, Ana Lucia and Sayid are not in the same area. Ana Lucia shot at someone else entirely. There is another person standing there with a gun pointed at Sayid. Most likely, this person is: Ethan Rom. He was listed as a guest star (William Mapother) in the episode, but never appeared anywhere else. I think that's his arm holding the gun.
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: joshsquall
Ana Lucia did not shoot Shannon. Shannon wasn't even shot. Stop it at the exact moment when Shannon turns around and you can see that she was stabbed.

There are two theories about this:
a) Sayid/Shannon aren't even in the same area as Ana Lucia. Ana Lucia shot someone else, but was close enough for Sayid to hear the gunshot.
b) Ana Lucia shot at whoever was attacking Shannon.

However, option b) does not make sense. When Sayid looks up, he sees a person on the edge of the screen holding a gun in their left hand, in a relaxed position. When we see Ana Lucia, she is holding the gun in her right hand, with her left hand below reinforcing her grip. She is also in a very defensive position.

Therefore, Ana Lucia and Sayid are not in the same area. Ana Lucia shot at someone else entirely. There is another person standing there with a gun pointed at Sayid. Most likely, this person is: Ethan Rom. He was listed as a guest star (William Mapother) in the episode, but never appeared anywhere else. I think that's his arm holding the gun.

Ethan was killed by Charlie. Shot 4 or 5 times in the chest and then buried.
 
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Originally posted by: joshsquall
Ana Lucia did not shoot Shannon. Shannon wasn't even shot. Stop it at the exact moment when Shannon turns around and you can see that she was stabbed.

There are two theories about this:
a) Sayid/Shannon aren't even in the same area as Ana Lucia. Ana Lucia shot someone else, but was close enough for Sayid to hear the gunshot.
b) Ana Lucia shot at whoever was attacking Shannon.

However, option b) does not make sense. When Sayid looks up, he sees a person on the edge of the screen holding a gun in their left hand, in a relaxed position. When we see Ana Lucia, she is holding the gun in her right hand, with her left hand below reinforcing her grip. She is also in a very defensive position.

Therefore, Ana Lucia and Sayid are not in the same area. Ana Lucia shot at someone else entirely. There is another person standing there with a gun pointed at Sayid. Most likely, this person is: Ethan Rom. He was listed as a guest star (William Mapother) in the episode, but never appeared anywhere else. I think that's his arm holding the gun.

The Ethan who was killed halfway through season 1.

Interesting theory because it would give the writers an out instead of having there be this huge tension between Ana Lucia and Sayid
 

Gunslinger08

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Ana Lucia did not shoot Shannon. Shannon wasn't even shot. Stop it at the exact moment when Shannon turns around and you can see that she was stabbed.

There are two theories about this:
a) Sayid/Shannon aren't even in the same area as Ana Lucia. Ana Lucia shot someone else, but was close enough for Sayid to hear the gunshot.
b) Ana Lucia shot at whoever was attacking Shannon.

However, option b) does not make sense. When Sayid looks up, he sees a person on the edge of the screen holding a gun in their left hand, in a relaxed position. When we see Ana Lucia, she is holding the gun in her right hand, with her left hand below reinforcing her grip. She is also in a very defensive position.

Therefore, Ana Lucia and Sayid are not in the same area. Ana Lucia shot at someone else entirely. There is another person standing there with a gun pointed at Sayid. Most likely, this person is: Ethan Rom. He was listed as a guest star (William Mapother) in the episode, but never appeared anywhere else. I think that's his arm holding the gun.

Ethan was killed by Charlie. Shot 4 or 5 times in the chest and then buried.

Crazier sh!t has happened.

You also don't want to get into the duplicate theory that a lot of people have about Lost, which could be one way of explaining that.