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Lucky, I doubt many Dearborn arabs read this board. Trust me, most of the arabs in Dearborn are damn happy to be out of the middle east and don't condone this kind of sh!t. But yes, some are tickled pink that it happened while sipping on a coke in the BP Gas Station.
SaigonK
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I think Bush should take away current television rights from all Americans and replace it with three censored stations. Then, take away all internet access. Then, prohibit all negative action against the government. Then, let's see who complains that the war was a bad idea.
The heck with the Iraqis, Saddam, their government, and their religion.
Letting the Iraqis have a voice in world relations simply because they exist is like letting a ford escort race NASCAR simply because it shows up at the track.
They are behind in times. The modern countries are flourishing in technological achievement (not that it is always a good thing) and here we have stupid little Iraq and the rest of the moronic Islamic what-the-fvck-ever countries screwing around in the Middle Ages while they praise to some god.
The fact that they continue to reproduce at normal rates is a perfect and perhaps the simplest example of their lack of civilized manner and intelligence.
There are 6.3 BILLION people on the earth; and that count is increasing at an exponential rate. Do people really believe that technology is going to outpace human ignorance and somehow we are going to find a way to continually fit people among the land and provide enough resources? In fact, LACK of resources is probably what will curb human growth rather than our own directed effort. Christ, in countries that have abundant resources, people cannot even control their own weight.
When will people realize that humans are not special? Claiming title of being civilized should mean that one understands that all humans have to take a certain responsibility regarding biological development and reproduction.
Yes, it would be great if everyone on earth could live happily ever-after in a peaceful world. Sadly, that does not happen and will not happen. As mentioned, humans are flawed. There might always be that "wrench in the system". If that wrench is left in the system simply because "it exists" or "it's already there" is a terrible move that will only cause additional problems in the future.
Ya know what, I just want to throw this in right now. Those fvckers who killed Nick Berg need to die. Yes, die. Killed. Murdered. Slain. I think someone should offer a reward to any who captures video of those men being fed into an industrial-sized wood chipper, feet first, very slowly.
They claim they killed Nick because some hot-headed soldiers made some men get naked and masturbate. Jesus fvcking Christ. Here, I'll tell you what. Go on Kazaa, and you can see a whole bunch of men (and women) doing every type of sexual act you can think of. BIG FRIKKIN' DEAL.
Who knows what the real story was behind the abuse. Maybe the officer who ordered some of those techniques lost a buddy to one those asshole's RPG attacks. Maybe those men being abused are confirmed to have actually taken up arms against US troops. Maybe the MP's were extremely burnt out, tired of Iraq, tired of the people, tired of all the bullshit, and couldn't care less about a bunch of people who think they have a right to life. Sad, but true.
Yet, here we have a bunch of uncivilized terrorists with absolutely no concept of the current state of the world, taking a man (Nick Berg) who wanted nothing more than to help bring Iraq into the 21st century, cut his head off, and claim it was for a worthy cause and equal to actions of the United States. Real smart. Not.
Someone tell me what the frik is up with people and religion? Not just those freaks over in Iraq, Israel, Afghanistan, Syria, Iran, and where-the-fvck-ever... but also world-wide?
It's one thing to simply have a belief in what life is and live your life accordingly. It's another thing to run around with RPGs, rising up against American soldiers because they get close to a mosque.
Religion is such a joke these days. Everyone thinks "their" religion is the correct one (otherwise, they would obviously be practicing another type). Yet, religion is just a set of beliefs people are mostly born into.
Take a new born child from Israel, stick it in a non-religious family (which does not prohibit their children?s decisions) in Europe, and he will grow up to form his OWN beliefs about the world and universe. He would not be brain-washed from the day he was born like many people are in these ancient nations living in the past. They only serve to repeat a cycle of rinse and repeat, generation after generation, continually preventing the society around them from progressing forward to the most possible (at the current state of time) modern understanding of life itself.
Killing is justifiable at times because being born does not grant anyone a right to life. Unfortunately, current law says otherwise for the time being.
Again, the problem is that humans have not modernized at an equal pace. Unfortunately, that's life. Yes, it's sad. You know what's also sad? That fact that humans continue to kill animals for pleasure or other idiotic reasons (such as to the claim their bones for ancient medicinal use).
I recently read an article somewhere on the net about some pet shop owner in some undeveloped country that had animals kept in very, very, very small cages. Decent sized cats in containers the size of a shoe box. Puppies so cramped up in a cage that they were stacked on top of each other?
What purpose? Who the fvck knows? That little man somehow believes that being human grants him the right to life even if it means exploiting the weakness of other life forms on this earth. Unfortunately, that pet shop was in some country that has no laws regarding animal treatment, therefore he claims he will not change his practice.
I often hear people talk of animals like they are worthless pieces of trash. I see animals caged up for the sole purpose of providing humans with eye candy and entertainment.
Well, I'll tell you what. There is one moment in time that I wish I could be witness to (if it ever takes place). It's when advanced extra-terrestrials discover planet earth. The catch is that the intelligence (and technology) barrier between them and us is the same ratio found between us and animals.
What that means is that they (the extra-terrestrials) would be so far beyond our level of intelligence that we would be nothing more than "animals" to them... just as we see the creatures on this planet as just "animals". We would then be treated subsequently. Separated. Caged up. Abused. Hunted. Took to strange places. All the morons on the planet would be trying to figure out why this was happening even though the answer is right in front of them.
You are probably wondering what this has to do with Iraq. The connection is that there simply are people who exist who have not any concept of intelligent, civilized life. These people over in Iraq (both the terrorists and civilians) are the sad result of branched human development. While attempting to bring an entire country out of ancient times into the modern world may be possible, sacrafices are without a doubt acceptable and unavoidable. These people need to look at the pinnacle members of the world and modify their worldview when needed.
You are probably about to ask, well... how do I know what the pinnacle of our species is? Well, the answer is, I don't. However, my respect rests with those members of our species who are part of every step of the ladder towards advancing our understanding of the universe, biology, and life itself.
Developing advanced outer-space transportation concepts. Protecting the environment. Reaching out further into the universe. Dwelling beyond the atom. Conquering aging and biological weakness.
These are just some of the basic issues I would think would qualify as being very important to the future of all humans.
I should hope that those who truly strive to achieve such goals are seen to be among the zenith of our society and are supported in every fashion.
Or we can all just forget applicable behavior. Let's all go grab Rocket-Propelled-Grenades and run around with towels on our heads blowing sh|t up, cutting people's heads, practicing worn out religious beliefs, forgetting realistic world-views.. all in the name of some god off some scripture that some ancient people simply wrote down for kicks.
You decide.
The United States needs to capture one of these terrorist sh|theads, stick him in front of a CNN camera, and ask him, "WHAT ARE YOU FIGHTING FOR?"
You know how he'll most likely reply? With a bunch of bullsh|t pertaining to god, religion, and whatever other worthless ideas those people apparently believe in. (Yes, I call them worthless ideas because of their current state of life. Gee, GOD has done so much for them, huh?)
It won't be anything regarding achieving lasting peace, improved resource production, better understanding of the universe, anti-aging, advancements in medicine, disease eradication, etc.. etc..
The Middle East is all jacked up. I am so glad to be a part of America; to have been able to form my own view of life; to not have been "born" into a religion; to not be part of a people who are just slaves to a group-think society; to enjoy the luxury of technology (with certain respects to cause and effect); to be part of a democratic government; to have access to great educational resources; and the list goes on.
Does America have problems? Yes. There are tons of things wrong with America. Does every other country have problems? Yes. Why? As mentioned, the flaw is human.
Maybe the Iraqis want to go back to three censored television stations, no internet, no free speech, no good educational system, harsh punishments for violations of the system, etc....
Sure does not sound like a place I'd like to live. If that's what they really want, then more power to them. If they are so smart, let's pull out and let them figure it all out. Captain, I need warp speed, pronto!
* Please excuse any cursing and my simple vocabulary. I refuse to use $5 words when $1 words work just fine and provide accessibility to a broader audience.
Thanks.
flocknine@hotmail.com
The heck with the Iraqis, Saddam, their government, and their religion.
Letting the Iraqis have a voice in world relations simply because they exist is like letting a ford escort race NASCAR simply because it shows up at the track.
They are behind in times. The modern countries are flourishing in technological achievement (not that it is always a good thing) and here we have stupid little Iraq and the rest of the moronic Islamic what-the-fvck-ever countries screwing around in the Middle Ages while they praise to some god.
The fact that they continue to reproduce at normal rates is a perfect and perhaps the simplest example of their lack of civilized manner and intelligence.
There are 6.3 BILLION people on the earth; and that count is increasing at an exponential rate. Do people really believe that technology is going to outpace human ignorance and somehow we are going to find a way to continually fit people among the land and provide enough resources? In fact, LACK of resources is probably what will curb human growth rather than our own directed effort. Christ, in countries that have abundant resources, people cannot even control their own weight.
When will people realize that humans are not special? Claiming title of being civilized should mean that one understands that all humans have to take a certain responsibility regarding biological development and reproduction.
Yes, it would be great if everyone on earth could live happily ever-after in a peaceful world. Sadly, that does not happen and will not happen. As mentioned, humans are flawed. There might always be that "wrench in the system". If that wrench is left in the system simply because "it exists" or "it's already there" is a terrible move that will only cause additional problems in the future.
Ya know what, I just want to throw this in right now. Those fvckers who killed Nick Berg need to die. Yes, die. Killed. Murdered. Slain. I think someone should offer a reward to any who captures video of those men being fed into an industrial-sized wood chipper, feet first, very slowly.
They claim they killed Nick because some hot-headed soldiers made some men get naked and masturbate. Jesus fvcking Christ. Here, I'll tell you what. Go on Kazaa, and you can see a whole bunch of men (and women) doing every type of sexual act you can think of. BIG FRIKKIN' DEAL.
Who knows what the real story was behind the abuse. Maybe the officer who ordered some of those techniques lost a buddy to one those asshole's RPG attacks. Maybe those men being abused are confirmed to have actually taken up arms against US troops. Maybe the MP's were extremely burnt out, tired of Iraq, tired of the people, tired of all the bullshit, and couldn't care less about a bunch of people who think they have a right to life. Sad, but true.
Yet, here we have a bunch of uncivilized terrorists with absolutely no concept of the current state of the world, taking a man (Nick Berg) who wanted nothing more than to help bring Iraq into the 21st century, cut his head off, and claim it was for a worthy cause and equal to actions of the United States. Real smart. Not.
Someone tell me what the frik is up with people and religion? Not just those freaks over in Iraq, Israel, Afghanistan, Syria, Iran, and where-the-fvck-ever... but also world-wide?
It's one thing to simply have a belief in what life is and live your life accordingly. It's another thing to run around with RPGs, rising up against American soldiers because they get close to a mosque.
Religion is such a joke these days. Everyone thinks "their" religion is the correct one (otherwise, they would obviously be practicing another type). Yet, religion is just a set of beliefs people are mostly born into.
Take a new born child from Israel, stick it in a non-religious family (which does not prohibit their children?s decisions) in Europe, and he will grow up to form his OWN beliefs about the world and universe. He would not be brain-washed from the day he was born like many people are in these ancient nations living in the past. They only serve to repeat a cycle of rinse and repeat, generation after generation, continually preventing the society around them from progressing forward to the most possible (at the current state of time) modern understanding of life itself.
Killing is justifiable at times because being born does not grant anyone a right to life. Unfortunately, current law says otherwise for the time being.
Again, the problem is that humans have not modernized at an equal pace. Unfortunately, that's life. Yes, it's sad. You know what's also sad? That fact that humans continue to kill animals for pleasure or other idiotic reasons (such as to the claim their bones for ancient medicinal use).
I recently read an article somewhere on the net about some pet shop owner in some undeveloped country that had animals kept in very, very, very small cages. Decent sized cats in containers the size of a shoe box. Puppies so cramped up in a cage that they were stacked on top of each other?
What purpose? Who the fvck knows? That little man somehow believes that being human grants him the right to life even if it means exploiting the weakness of other life forms on this earth. Unfortunately, that pet shop was in some country that has no laws regarding animal treatment, therefore he claims he will not change his practice.
I often hear people talk of animals like they are worthless pieces of trash. I see animals caged up for the sole purpose of providing humans with eye candy and entertainment.
Well, I'll tell you what. There is one moment in time that I wish I could be witness to (if it ever takes place). It's when advanced extra-terrestrials discover planet earth. The catch is that the intelligence (and technology) barrier between them and us is the same ratio found between us and animals.
What that means is that they (the extra-terrestrials) would be so far beyond our level of intelligence that we would be nothing more than "animals" to them... just as we see the creatures on this planet as just "animals". We would then be treated subsequently. Separated. Caged up. Abused. Hunted. Took to strange places. All the morons on the planet would be trying to figure out why this was happening even though the answer is right in front of them.
You are probably wondering what this has to do with Iraq. The connection is that there simply are people who exist who have not any concept of intelligent, civilized life. These people over in Iraq (both the terrorists and civilians) are the sad result of branched human development. While attempting to bring an entire country out of ancient times into the modern world may be possible, sacrafices are without a doubt acceptable and unavoidable. These people need to look at the pinnacle members of the world and modify their worldview when needed.
You are probably about to ask, well... how do I know what the pinnacle of our species is? Well, the answer is, I don't. However, my respect rests with those members of our species who are part of every step of the ladder towards advancing our understanding of the universe, biology, and life itself.
Developing advanced outer-space transportation concepts. Protecting the environment. Reaching out further into the universe. Dwelling beyond the atom. Conquering aging and biological weakness.
These are just some of the basic issues I would think would qualify as being very important to the future of all humans.
I should hope that those who truly strive to achieve such goals are seen to be among the zenith of our society and are supported in every fashion.
Or we can all just forget applicable behavior. Let's all go grab Rocket-Propelled-Grenades and run around with towels on our heads blowing sh|t up, cutting people's heads, practicing worn out religious beliefs, forgetting realistic world-views.. all in the name of some god off some scripture that some ancient people simply wrote down for kicks.
You decide.
The United States needs to capture one of these terrorist sh|theads, stick him in front of a CNN camera, and ask him, "WHAT ARE YOU FIGHTING FOR?"
You know how he'll most likely reply? With a bunch of bullsh|t pertaining to god, religion, and whatever other worthless ideas those people apparently believe in. (Yes, I call them worthless ideas because of their current state of life. Gee, GOD has done so much for them, huh?)
It won't be anything regarding achieving lasting peace, improved resource production, better understanding of the universe, anti-aging, advancements in medicine, disease eradication, etc.. etc..
The Middle East is all jacked up. I am so glad to be a part of America; to have been able to form my own view of life; to not have been "born" into a religion; to not be part of a people who are just slaves to a group-think society; to enjoy the luxury of technology (with certain respects to cause and effect); to be part of a democratic government; to have access to great educational resources; and the list goes on.
Does America have problems? Yes. There are tons of things wrong with America. Does every other country have problems? Yes. Why? As mentioned, the flaw is human.
Maybe the Iraqis want to go back to three censored television stations, no internet, no free speech, no good educational system, harsh punishments for violations of the system, etc....
Sure does not sound like a place I'd like to live. If that's what they really want, then more power to them. If they are so smart, let's pull out and let them figure it all out. Captain, I need warp speed, pronto!
* Please excuse any cursing and my simple vocabulary. I refuse to use $5 words when $1 words work just fine and provide accessibility to a broader audience.
Thanks.
flocknine@hotmail.com
When Timothy McVeigh committed his terrorist act in the mid 90's did you denounce his behavior? Your probably a caucasian. He's a caucasian, so why didn't you denounce his actions?
Again for the thousandth time, most muslims do not engage in this sort of activity/behavior. To say that the muslim population needs to denounce this type of behavior is laughable. Why should they have to defend themselves because of those sick bastards?
I wonder how many sick f*cks will be watching this video over and over and over again? Some people really get off on this sort of behavior. Imagine being in public and someone pulled this video out on their pocket pc or laptop? I'd break the POS into a million pieces.
Maybe the media should have burned this garbage when they had the chance. The less we know the better, eh?
Maybe the media should have burned this garbage when they had the chance. The less we know the better, eh?
:roll: Get over yourself and your little "liberals are wusses" kick. Wahhabism needs to be stamped out, just like other virulently violent strains of religion; however, the only way to do that in the long term is education, freedom of press/speech, etc. Very liberal ideas, actually.
Agreed.
And I suppose the Viet Cong were Muslims, too? (or was it the NVA that sent kids as suicide bombers?)
Also agreed.
Very, very good post, alchemize. I'm impressed.
Don Vito Corleone
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Have you ever actually been to these countries? Iraq is indeed something of a backwater, but any number of Muslim countries (Bahrain and Kuwait come to mind) are very modern.
Okay, I'll go to your parents' house, and your GF's house, round them up, slap them in cells, urinate on them, and force them to have sex with strangers and stick broomsticks up their butts. "BIG FRIKKIN' DEAL" to you? Did you know that some 70-90 percent of the inmates at Abu Ghraib are estimated to have been arrested in error?
See the above. Every GI is trained on the law of war, and they all knew they were breaking the law.
Agreed, though your tone is a little too junior-high for my taste given the subject matter.
Okay, I'm not sure I get the nexus, but have you ever seen film of commercial chicken production in the US? It is far crueler than what you describe. Chickens are kept so tightly in cages, for such prolonged periods, that their feet grow into and around the mesh floors of their cages. What about the way they produce pate foie gras in the US and France? They force-feed geese cognac with a tube down their throats until their livers are grotesquely inflated.
Now things have really taken a turn for the bizarre . . .
"This is the only handbook you need. This handbook is a good go-by." - President Bush, referring to the Bible's controlling authority over his push for "faith-based" charities.
Red Dawn
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I'm shocked but not surprised by this. We are dealing with a Culture that hit its Apex at the turn of the first century.
I wouldn't have sacrificed one American life to liberate the Iraq's from Sadam's tyranny. Of course I like the Iraqis as much as they like us which is not very much!
I wouldn't have sacrificed one American life to liberate the Iraq's from Sadam's tyranny. Of course I like the Iraqis as much as they like us which is not very much!
Actually there are. Not many, but there are a few. Like the head of the worlds leading islamic university in Eygpt. He has denounced fundamentalists, and called their actions anti-islam.
0roo0roo
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mcveigh wasn't part of some global islamist movement based on a fundamentalist view of a religion. he just was a tad mad. militia groups are marginalized in society to such a degree theres no point in "denouncing" it. its denounced by default. not so in the muslim world.
just remember, a small % of 1 billion + is a lot of very dangerous people.
ThePresence
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He is not a religious leader. Until a recognized religious leader from the region stands up and says something, why should people assume that they practice a peaceful religion over there?
I am a for the most part when it comes to issues like this a conservative. And after watching these animals butcher somebody like that it makes me wanna just nuke the entire area. But after having several hours to settle down I think the wise thing to do is continue on our couse, hunt down the insurgents, kill them, and get the majority of the Iraqis back on their feet.
What these people did was to shock people and scare us away. They are sending a msg to everybody including arabs that you will either follow us or die.
I have not read the Koran and thus I dont actually know if it is as militant as people say it is. I certainly hope it is like the Christian Bible where there are parts about infidels but the majority is very peaceful and spiritually lifting. What we have here is a society that appears to be for the most part stuck in the 6th century but with 20th century ameneties. The radicals are trying to keep their hold on their people through the use of force. This is really no different than the brutalities of christianity in the past. The only difference is Christian nations have finally put their priests, bishops, cardinals, ministers ect in their place and out of govt affairs.
Islamics need to have a taste of not having Religion + govt intertwined. Iraq is a great opportunity to get a western style of govt in that region of the world. Once it takes hold I think it could cause havoc in the other parts of the ME. Polls are showing that a majority of the Iraqi citizens are just plain sick and tired of the fundamentalists interferring with the rebuild process. I think if we can stay the course and keep revenge out of it we should be ok. We will just need to find the animals who did this and have them taken care of.
On a side note I am also for the assassination of the cleric who is causing us problems. If we dont take care of him now, he will come back and haunt the Iraqis later.
Now looking back on my post I cant believe I posted it because of my many stances I have taken on the ME in the past. But maybe my compassion is finally showing through. And I know if we simply start shooting civilians who have nothing to do with this it wont help us win the war and will only make it worse.
What these people did was to shock people and scare us away. They are sending a msg to everybody including arabs that you will either follow us or die.
I have not read the Koran and thus I dont actually know if it is as militant as people say it is. I certainly hope it is like the Christian Bible where there are parts about infidels but the majority is very peaceful and spiritually lifting. What we have here is a society that appears to be for the most part stuck in the 6th century but with 20th century ameneties. The radicals are trying to keep their hold on their people through the use of force. This is really no different than the brutalities of christianity in the past. The only difference is Christian nations have finally put their priests, bishops, cardinals, ministers ect in their place and out of govt affairs.
Islamics need to have a taste of not having Religion + govt intertwined. Iraq is a great opportunity to get a western style of govt in that region of the world. Once it takes hold I think it could cause havoc in the other parts of the ME. Polls are showing that a majority of the Iraqi citizens are just plain sick and tired of the fundamentalists interferring with the rebuild process. I think if we can stay the course and keep revenge out of it we should be ok. We will just need to find the animals who did this and have them taken care of.
On a side note I am also for the assassination of the cleric who is causing us problems. If we dont take care of him now, he will come back and haunt the Iraqis later.
Now looking back on my post I cant believe I posted it because of my many stances I have taken on the ME in the past. But maybe my compassion is finally showing through. And I know if we simply start shooting civilians who have nothing to do with this it wont help us win the war and will only make it worse.
hmmm -* But somehow its ok that "Shock and Awe" was broadcast to us. I just can wait TO ALL People are killed. Then we can ALL answer to the whatever power.
Most of the people here are severely corrupted by the media. It seems most with statements such as...
'Is America making the world a better place?'
... feel that we are just as evil as the guys in this picture. Well, lets get some facts here.
We know Iraqi civilians were tortured and hungry prior to going over there. We know mothers, sisters, daughters were being raped. We know that fathers, brothers, and sons were being beaten unmercifully and more times than not, to death. People were having weapons 'tested' on them. There was near to no education, only 1/3 of the country had electricity, ect ect
Now, we have over 16,000 Iraqi soldiers fighting WITH US. 2/3 of the country now has electricity. Kids are now being educated. Men and Women are no longer being tortured and raped. We are attempting to help feed the hungry.
And you guys are asking stupid liberal media corrupted questions such as that B.S.
I am pissed, i'm not suggesting blowing the whole place down, although, i wouldn't be subject to specific areas over there. What do you liberals suggest at this point? Is this guy's death going to be forgotten 2 months from now just like Daniel's was in 2002? Do you guys feel we're dealing with average joe people like you and I who just go to work everyday and mind their own business?
I simply don't understand most of you and your totally single-minded way of thinking. All thaty ou guys care about is Bush not getting re-elected, when that really means very little when we have our own American Friends and Family members over there dying.
I guess you guys seems to forget that to though, again, complete morons.
'Is America making the world a better place?'
... feel that we are just as evil as the guys in this picture. Well, lets get some facts here.
We know Iraqi civilians were tortured and hungry prior to going over there. We know mothers, sisters, daughters were being raped. We know that fathers, brothers, and sons were being beaten unmercifully and more times than not, to death. People were having weapons 'tested' on them. There was near to no education, only 1/3 of the country had electricity, ect ect
Now, we have over 16,000 Iraqi soldiers fighting WITH US. 2/3 of the country now has electricity. Kids are now being educated. Men and Women are no longer being tortured and raped. We are attempting to help feed the hungry.
And you guys are asking stupid liberal media corrupted questions such as that B.S.
I am pissed, i'm not suggesting blowing the whole place down, although, i wouldn't be subject to specific areas over there. What do you liberals suggest at this point? Is this guy's death going to be forgotten 2 months from now just like Daniel's was in 2002? Do you guys feel we're dealing with average joe people like you and I who just go to work everyday and mind their own business?
I simply don't understand most of you and your totally single-minded way of thinking. All thaty ou guys care about is Bush not getting re-elected, when that really means very little when we have our own American Friends and Family members over there dying.
I guess you guys seems to forget that to though, again, complete morons.
Thats what im saying - this is all relative. Did any christians denounced what the KKK did when they went on the "TERROR CAMPAIGNS" ? NO, what did they do, they supported that stuff and or they shut up about it. Christians are supposed to "beat there swords into plowshares" - Did any chrisitans denounce Bush in going to war that cause the death of 10k in iraq? NO. - the Pope opened his mouth a few times. im tired of this word "terrorist" - This is a weak excuse and is totally being used out of context. now were saying we are concentrating them in Iraq - In other words "terrorist' that didnt even exist are being created in iraq and they are adding to the destructoin by killing more innocent poeple. "LIBERALS" keep pointed out every fvck-up and flaw becasue THEY are the ones that said we should have been there in the first place, there are no WMD, or links with 9/11. Now that these asses are over there it is only natural to point out every single flaw because nothing has really worked. the only thing that we have done is found saddam, thats it. And what info have we gotten from him. Why dont you just say "we messed up." The whole idea was bad and now people are getting their freakin heads chopped off. There was a better way, and iraq had no WMD nor was it a threat to the US - just stop telling LIES.
And then.... what does that have to do with the OP. It has been pointed out that people in this country are beheaded and dragged behind pickup trucks. Too bad you CLAIM to give more sh!ts about Iraqis than your own countrymen. So save the "we are saving the poor Iraqui bullsh!t for a crowd that believes that garbage.
Better question is what is this administration suggest we do at this point. Didn't realize it was our job to make suggestions to the administration on how to root out evil.
And then... ? There are people like this ALL OVER THE WORLD dimwit, have at rooting them all out. Let me know when your plan is in action. *crickets*
Who is single minded here? When you point your finger at someone, there are 3 pointing right back at you. There is no partisanship being posted in this thread other than your attempt to smear all Liberals. Again, let us all know your brave plan for rooting out the extremist muslims when you have it. Other than the well placed bombs in certain areas plan. Grow up Beavis.
The problem with the liberal media is they are still burned by Gore losing in 2000. They have tried everything they could to pain Bush as a moron, war mongering, oil grabbing, stock swindling emperor.
The latest stories are no different. This is an election year so you can expect an extra dose of BS with your news on a nightly basis from the big 3(ABC, NBC, CBS).
The saddest part is there are millions of people who buy into this and millions who will be affected by this.
How much press did John Kerry missing the vote yesterday and thus keeping thousands from recieving help? I bet is it on the back page of most newspapers and doesnt even get on the evening news. Sure it isnt a huge deal except Kerry is a man for the middle class as they say and he didnt even have the respect to do his job and vote for the middle class.
Of course the Kerry campaign came back with it was all Bush's fault. Of course it is Bushs fault John Kerry didnt do his job and vote, why wouldnt it be?
So we can expect to see people outraged in the media at the prisoner abuse by not caring about things like this.
The latest stories are no different. This is an election year so you can expect an extra dose of BS with your news on a nightly basis from the big 3(ABC, NBC, CBS).
The saddest part is there are millions of people who buy into this and millions who will be affected by this.
How much press did John Kerry missing the vote yesterday and thus keeping thousands from recieving help? I bet is it on the back page of most newspapers and doesnt even get on the evening news. Sure it isnt a huge deal except Kerry is a man for the middle class as they say and he didnt even have the respect to do his job and vote for the middle class.
Of course the Kerry campaign came back with it was all Bush's fault. Of course it is Bushs fault John Kerry didnt do his job and vote, why wouldnt it be?
So we can expect to see people outraged in the media at the prisoner abuse by not caring about things like this.
And how much of that had been going on in the last decade, post Gulf War?
Also:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/ask/20031114.html
Education in Iraq in the 1980s was among the highest performing systems in the region. But Saddam Hussein used teachers as an extension of his political party to spread propaganda. In addition, he stopped professional development. Teachers, like the rest of the nation, were cut off from the progress that was occurring in the rest of the world. The most obvious effect ? though not by any means the only one ? is that thousands of school buildings have not been maintained.
As long as they're not in our prisons.
What stupid liberal media would that be? The "liberal media" as a bad thing is a lie. It's just a continuation of the right-wing attempt to tarnish the word "liberal". Of course media will be typically liberal. Freedom of the press, Freedom of speech, Freedom Information Act. Catching a pattern here? It's about Freedom. I think you intend to label the media as leftist, which is far from the truth.
Care to try that last sentence in English, moron?
Wow. Impressive. Not on topic at all, just another Liberal Bash Rant tossed in with a side helping of Gore! Didn't know he was a factor in this beheading. And as far as painting Bush as those things, he already has enough coats he painted on all by himself. He doesn't need any Liberals to paint him a moron, war mongering, oil grabbing, stock swindling emperor.
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