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Zebo

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Originally posted by: dahunan
I didn't watch it.. it is obvious that it will be horribly disgusting...

My imagination is sickened already...

I feel the same way just like i rfuse to see those torture picts. This elective great adventure has gotten out of hand and too ugly. Life is too short and I like to be surrounded by pretty things not this. fusk em all let the hard heads kill eash other
 

rickn

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Originally posted by: Tripleshot
Originally posted by: rickn
Originally posted by: JackStorm
Disgusting...hope those who did this are caught, they're a disgrace to the human race.

Also, I hope this vid is shown to the public so people can see how ugly things are getting, people need to be sure that they're willing to fallow things through, knowing this can happen to their loved ones. Because, believe me...things will get uglier before this war is over...

there will be YEARS of this. Everyone better get use to it

Wrong, Bucko! Dead WRONG! NO ONE "better" GET USED TO IT! It had better never be repeated. Anymore of this behavour and I have no problem taking over the middle east by any and all means.

NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER!
:disgust:

then I suggest you become a nomad or amish.
 

rickn

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: dahunan
I didn't watch it.. it is obvious that it will be horribly disgusting...

My imagination is sickened already...

I feel the same way just like i rfuse to see those torture picts. This elective great adventure has gotten out of hand and too ugly. Life is too short and I like to be surrounded by pretty things not this. fusk em all let the hard heads kill eash other

out of hand? 1yr and less than 1000 casualities later? This has been a cake walk compared to other wars we've been involved in
 

Commish

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: Commish
It's time for the gloves to come off. We've been holding back for far too long. They're fvcking animals.

Sign up. I like it when lunatics kills one another more o2 for me after the bombs stop.


I already put my six years in, how about you? I didn't like the whole idea of our going in there in the first place, but it's too late, we're definitely in it for the long haul now. This is a very unfortunate situation we have here.
 

josphII

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This is exactly what you get when you occupy a forigen country and the people want you out. I can't believe people see this and want to stay for more.

yeah its our fault and we should let them get away with this!

moron
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: Tripleshot
Originally posted by: rickn
Originally posted by: JackStorm
Disgusting...hope those who did this are caught, they're a disgrace to the human race.

Also, I hope this vid is shown to the public so people can see how ugly things are getting, people need to be sure that they're willing to fallow things through, knowing this can happen to their loved ones. Because, believe me...things will get uglier before this war is over...

there will be YEARS of this. Everyone better get use to it

Wrong, Bucko! Dead WRONG! NO ONE "better" GET USED TO IT! It had better never be repeated. Anymore of this behavour and I have no problem taking over the middle east by any and all means.

NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER!
:disgust:


Think about what you're saying for a second. They killed Berg as retaliation for what a few of ours did. Now you want to take over the ME by any means possible as retaliation for what they did. It can't be might makes right.

I'm reminded of the threads on 9/11. Very emotional, but things were said way over the top.
 

chess9

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Everybody in America is angry and outraged over this sadistic act, but

"The fault, Dear Brutus, lies not in our stars,

but in ourselves"

Is America making the world a better place, or are we simply Mad as a Hatter?

-Robert
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: Commish
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: Commish
It's time for the gloves to come off. We've been holding back for far too long. They're fvcking animals.

Sign up. I like it when lunatics kills one another more o2 for me after the bombs stop.


I already put my six years in, how about you? I didn't like the whole idea of our going in there in the first place, but it's too late, we're definitely in it for the long haul now. This is a very unfortunate situation we have here.

I was an 18 month wonder before I was almost killed and spent another 3 months in the hospital at NAS in pensacola. Not six years but if they'd take me back after physical and I believed in the a just cause I would. Like actual defense of our country. But since we agree this war is a BAD THING then why the hell continue with a bad thing? I just don't get that logic following peril down the hole and hope you come out alive. Seems asine to me since it's elective punsihment no less. Anyway your prolly highly qualified and since you seems to think it's so easy for "gloves to come off" when they can't even find the enemy and you feel they hav'nt come off already when they do I suggest re-upping to make a diff.
 

Steeplerot

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The people responsible in this video should be tried under guidelines set up by the UN. This was a horrible act.
(just as the US soldiers and our current administration responsible for crimes against humanity should be tried as war criminals for escalating this.)
I don't care about who we should get revenge on.
it is OUR fault civilian AND military for letting the administration lead us into this.

An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind.
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: steeplerot
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I got news for you, Israel isn't going anywhere. Every society around Israel will perish before they ever leave the promised lands.



And it is a total shame too. We are the one supporting the terrorists.
Desperate people Outgunned out teched do desperate actions.
Really sad go look at a map Iraq is tiny compared to US. Yeah were such badasses picking on 3rd world countrys in a desert.
Join the military go shoot natives but do not get me or my family/friends blown up becasue of it and do NOT look for a sympathetic tear to be shed when they catch you and you get your justice.
How much military is left in this country?
Be REAAAAL easy to take it back from the pricks who think they run the show and feed us this crap.
Tread lightly bush your time will come soon if you keep us on this path.

You are probably being investigated by the secret service. :)
 

AcidicFury

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Originally posted by: josphII
This is exactly what you get when you occupy a forigen country and the people want you out. I can't believe people see this and want to stay for more.

yeah its our fault and we should let them get away with this!

moron

Uhh, actually, I'm going to take a look at the liberal and conservative viewpoints of things. First of all, conservatives want to change culture in Iraq. Liberals say to let people be. No one can change a culture that has existed for thousands of years. No one. It's impossible because people are set in their ways. For example, lets look at the way Arabs treat women. For thousands of years, women have been oppressed in the Middle East because of cultural values. How can the USA expect to change that in a few short years? The answer: They can't.

For all those people that have said in this thread that this is a reason why we should have invaded the Middle East: We would not have these problems if we weren't there. They cannot behead us in our own country. Let them be! They are people as well, not animals as the media has portrayed them to be! If they want to decapitate people, then that is their problem, not ours.

Another reason why this explicitly occurred is because of pride. Americans have too much of it. They took it away from the Iraqis- first in defeating them in war, and then in abusing their prisoners. Pride and nationalism are the reasons why everything happened in the first place. If we let them have their pride, then they will do less of this in the future.

In Islam, the Qu'ran says not to kill people. Remember, these people aren't regualr Muslims. These are radicals, just like the KKK are radical Christians. Every Muslim I've ever met has been extremely nice, but there are always exceptions to the rule.

Sure, this was a horrible thing that was done. But instead of inflaming the people anymore, let us stop this useless fighting and worry about things that need to be happening in the US. This war is none of our business. Saddam Hussein had neither WMD or connections to 9/11. We ousted him. Now we need to get out.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: Tripleshot
Originally posted by: rickn
Originally posted by: JackStorm
Disgusting...hope those who did this are caught, they're a disgrace to the human race.

Also, I hope this vid is shown to the public so people can see how ugly things are getting, people need to be sure that they're willing to fallow things through, knowing this can happen to their loved ones. Because, believe me...things will get uglier before this war is over...

there will be YEARS of this. Everyone better get use to it

Wrong, Bucko! Dead WRONG! NO ONE "better" GET USED TO IT! It had better never be repeated. Anymore of this behavour and I have no problem taking over the middle east by any and all means.

NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER!
:disgust:

I want justice. I oppose slaughter. I am not going to put a sword in the hand of others so they can murder babies in their cribs. Settle down, think about who did this and why this situation happened and advocate some constructive course of action. You do not want the blood of children on your hands. I have witnessed that horror though it was no fault of my own, and I know the sound of dying children. You do not want to go there.
 

Commish

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: Commish
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: Commish
It's time for the gloves to come off. We've been holding back for far too long. They're fvcking animals.

Sign up. I like it when lunatics kills one another more o2 for me after the bombs stop.


I already put my six years in, how about you? I didn't like the whole idea of our going in there in the first place, but it's too late, we're definitely in it for the long haul now. This is a very unfortunate situation we have here.

I was an 18 month wonder before I was almost killed and spent another 3 months in the hospital at NAS in pensacola. Not six years but if they'd take me back after physical and I believed in the a just cause I would. Like actual defense of our country. But since we agree this war is a BAD THING then why the hell continue with a bad thing? I just don't get that logic following peril down the hole and hope you come out alive. Seems asine to me since it's elective punsihment no less. Anyway your prolly highly qualified and since you seems to think it's so easy for "gloves to come off" when they can't even find the enemy and you feel they hav'nt come off already when they do I suggest re-upping to make a diff.

Impossible, I'm 39, they won't take me back. Plus, it would be much more difficult for me to go back in now that I have a family. It's not easy being married with children in the military, especially in times like this.
 

Tripleshot

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Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: Tripleshot
Originally posted by: rickn
Originally posted by: JackStorm
Disgusting...hope those who did this are caught, they're a disgrace to the human race.

Also, I hope this vid is shown to the public so people can see how ugly things are getting, people need to be sure that they're willing to fallow things through, knowing this can happen to their loved ones. Because, believe me...things will get uglier before this war is over...

there will be YEARS of this. Everyone better get use to it

Wrong, Bucko! Dead WRONG! NO ONE "better" GET USED TO IT! It had better never be repeated. Anymore of this behavour and I have no problem taking over the middle east by any and all means.

NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER!
:disgust:


Think about what you're saying for a second. They killed Berg as retaliation for what a few of ours did. Now you want to take over the ME by any means possible as retaliation for what they did. It can't be might makes right.

I'm reminded of the threads on 9/11. Very emotional, but things were said way over the top.

This isn't knee jerk or emotional. It is a fact these people do not want us there. They want their barbaric life style long enough to see an end to Christianity and Judeism. They are controling world economy by controling the flow of oil. They have abosolutely the poorist human rights record of any ethnic, religious group in the history of civilization. How quickly you forget about the Taliban. How quickly you forget about bombing after bombing of innocent civilians, and then standing before a camara with hooded face and praising Allah as if their actions are devine. These are the people that put bombs around the bellies of children, deliver them to a bus or resteraunt full of inncoent people and then detonate them from a safe distance. I don't give 2 sh!ts about these people. If this is Muslum, Fvck em. If Muslums are not outraged about this, then they are part of the problem, not the solution. Muslums better stand up for something and damn soon. If not, they are in the crossfire. I recognize these are criminals and terrorists doing these acts. But they represent Muslums, and no Muslum cleric or leader has denounced these pricks yet. Until there is overt action by legal and legitimate representives of the Muslum faith denouncing and giving up these bastyards, then it stands, they are my enemy. Its their call. It's for them to decide what is right. And they better do it quickly, before we show our might.
 

alchemize

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As horrible as this is, these calls for nuclear war, all out war, etc. are just not the answer. Maybe the answer to your heart, but not your brain. No doubt, these men and their ilk need to be exterminated like the vermin they've become. Professionally, precisely, and without delay. But we can't become what he hate, no matter how tempting.

Personally, I'd like al-jazeera to run this on loop 24/7, and show the islamic/arab world how perverted and sick the fringe of their religion has become to cowardly murder innocents and tape it, simply for having the wrong color of flesh, being the wrong religion, and being born in the wrong country.

And many libs have mocked me when I say that islamic fundamentalism is the modern incarnation of the Nazi party. Only difference being, OBL has more native support than Hitler did.
 

IGBT

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Islam-o-fascist supporters in and out of the American press are dancing in the streets over this..Ted Kennedy and the rest of the liberal slime now get to slither around in their media supported lime light and pretend to be pious while they continue on with their public handwringing..
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: TripleshotThis isn't knee jerk or emotional. It is a fact these people do not want us there. They want their barbaric life style long enough to see an end to Christianity and Judeism. They are controling world economy by controling the flow of oil. They have abosolutely the poorist human rights record of any ethnic, religious group in the history of civilization. How quickly you forget about the Taliban. How quickly you forget about bombing after bombing of innocent civilians, and then standing before a camara with hooded face and praising Allah as if their actions are devine. These are the people that put bombs around the bellies of children, deliver them to a bus or resteraunt full of inncoent people and then detonate them from a safe distance. I don't give 2 sh!ts about these people. If this is Muslum, Fvck em. If Muslums are not outraged about this, then they are part of the problem, not the solution. Muslums better stand up for something and damn soon. If not, they are in the crossfire. I recognize these are criminals and terrorists doing these acts. But they represent Muslums, and no Muslum cleric or leader has denounced these pricks yet. Until there is overt action by legal and legitimate representives of the Muslum faith denouncing and giving up these bastyards, then it stands, they are my enemy. Its their call. It's for them to decide what is right. And they better do it quickly, before we show our might.

The problem isn't that no Muslim leaders speak up. The problem is that 99% of the ones that do are US citizens enjoying the freedoms that our country provides. I don't think I have ever heard a recognized Muslim leader from THAT REGION condemn the actions of the fundamentalists. Who's to say that they are fundamentalists? Maybe they are the norm? You can't know until you hear other voices from the area.

And Tripleshot, aren't you sick of the "If they do that we will show our might" kind of stuff? How many times have we said that already? Maybe THIS IS our might. Scary.
 

peonyu

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These are just the bad apples that we are seeing, im sure most muslims in the ME are reasonable people and will denounce this act, much like the average palistinian denounces suicide bombings.
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: peonyu
These are just the bad apples that we are seeing, im sure most muslims in the ME are reasonable people and will denounce this act, much like the average palistinian denounces suicide bombings.
Why are you so sure that the average Palestinian condemns suicide bombings? Which poll are you basing that on?
 

Hossenfeffer

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Suppose I'd count myself among the Liberals, if anything. While I roll my eyes at the initial "reasons" to head to Iraq, I'm of the opinion that the best way out of things is to indeed stay the course. I don't think we should be there, but now that we are, we've got to do what it takes.
 

Cogman

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I think they should catch and punish those responsible. This is bad, I dont argue with that. But I dont believe that we need to go and genocide an entire set of people just because they are fighting in a very discusting and disturbing way. No that is as bad as hittler killing the disabled because they are a burden on society. It is bad over there, but I dont think it is as bad as the media is making it out to be. all and all 1000 deaths after a year is really not that much.

About the solders that commited those crimes, that is precicly what they did commit a crime, and they will be punished accordingly. Should they have done it, No. But I think that it was a result of hatred towards those they where fighting agenst, it happens in war, you hate those you fight agenst.

What should we do, I dont really know. Pulling out of Iraq would be a mistake all around. Perment occupation would also be a mistake. I think the only thing we can do is try to establish leaders and provide our military as a Police squad while training their people to take over the jobs are military is preforming, they slowly pull out when stability is ensured. It hurts more to rip ducttape off then to gently pull it off.
 

peonyu

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he shouldnt have been there anyways, his mere presence was instigating it.
 

EXman

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OK I guess there are no still no Terrorists though right Liberals. How much more proof do you need?


that is right out of Faces of Death disgusting

it is these as$holes that we are trying to get information about. Why are we using kid gloves these pricks don't understand anything other than violence.

Until they show show us doing the same to them terrorist MFs that even deserve it I DO NOT WANT TO SEE ANYMORE STUPID Prison photos!

Every liberal needs to watch that crap and let it burn in. Don't give me some half assed retort back just watch it and stfu