Link to the video of the american being beheaded

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: macscr
Just another addition, if you live in the United States and hate americans and what we stand for. If you dont think we are the best country in the world. Please please leave and go to whatever country you think is best. I would really appreciate it, because im sick of my friends dieing for something that you dont even appreciate (FREEDOM).

You are NOT a soldier.. you are lying..... .. take your self-righteous crap somewhere else.

Maybe these guys should have left America too?

"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism." - President Thomas Jefferson

"It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from the government." - Thomas Paine

To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. (1918) Theodore Roosevelt


AND FOR THIS

"Im not saying what we were making the iraqis do was wrong at all though"

Shoved any flourescent lightbulbs or broomhandles up your ass lately?

 

[Zebo]

You should never decapitate innocent civilians. You should just blow them to smithereens with cluster munitions, 2000lb bombs and JDAMS that way theres no evidence. What amatuers.

 

[Zebo]

Just another addition, if you live in the United States and hate americans and what we stand for. If you dont think we are the best country in the world. Please please leave and go to whatever country you think is best. I would really appreciate it, because im sick of my friends dieing for something that you dont even appreciate (FREEDOM).
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You're not free you fool. Your brain is held hostage to ceaseless propaganda piped in your home 24/7 and has you by the balls spouting jingoistic phoney patriotism. I can tell because theres a 180 degree contradiction between truth, justice and freedom which used to be the MO in this country and lies, torture and secret prisons now and your blind to it. Then the media, boys in DC and Rush throw enough diversionary scandal and scares in air to keep you off the scent. Wake up little doggie were not in Kansas anymore.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: macscr
About the comment about liberals, have you watched the news and seen how many democrats and liberals are trying to blame what happeed [sic] with the epws as if the whole military was to blame and how it was president bush's fault.[sic] I mean come on, it was a select few, and they should be punished. And no one should get out of trouble because they blamed it on "peer pressure". If your [sic] wrong, your [sic] wrong, plain and simple.

Who were you before the ban? Or did you slink in here from someplace like hannity.com

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: macscr
About the comment about liberals, have you watched the news and seen how many democrats and liberals are trying to blame what happeed [sic] with the epws as if the whole military was to blame and how it was president bush's fault.[sic] I mean come on, it was a select few, and they should be punished. And no one should get out of trouble because they blamed it on "peer pressure". If your [sic] wrong, your [sic] wrong, plain and simple.

Who were you before the ban? Or did you slink in here from someplace like hannity.com

There seems to be a dramatic increase of braindead twits lately. Makes one wonder what rock they've scurried out from under.

 

[macscr]

If you want to try and lie to yourself and think im not a soldier, thats completely up to you. And how am I held to propaganda that I don't even listen to? I know the media is full of it. BTW, what did you mean about who was I before the ban? Am I not allowed to talk about liberals in here? I apologize if I am not following the forum rules.

"Shoved any flourescent lightbulbs or broomhandles up your ass lately?"

Do you have any idea what your talking about? Dont make stuff up, its sad.

"You should never decapitate innocent civilians. You should just blow them to smithereens with cluster munitions, 2000lb bombs and JDAMS that way theres no evidence. What amatuers."

You have no idea how much the military goes out of its way to not harm any civilians.

Anyway, hope you all have a good day.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: macscr
About the comment about liberals, have you watched the news and seen how many democrats and liberals are trying to blame what happeed [sic] with the epws as if the whole military was to blame and how it was president bush's fault.[sic] I mean come on, it was a select few, and they should be punished. And no one should get out of trouble because they blamed it on "peer pressure". If your [sic] wrong, your [sic] wrong, plain and simple.

Who were you before the ban? Or did you slink in here from someplace like hannity.com

There seems to be a dramatic increase of braindead twits lately. Makes one wonder what rock they've scurried out from under.

No kidding. And the 3rd-grade writing effort in the first post by this one is a sad indictment of our education system.

 

[bdjohnson]

Originally posted by: Commish
It's time for the gloves to come off. We've been holding back for far too long. They're fvcking animals.

holding back lol. We are the ones invading their country.

 

[conjur]

CIA says killer of Berg is al-Zarqawi.

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=amuq8EDcsj8M&refer=us

May 13 (Bloomberg) -- The Central Intelligence Agency said terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi killed Nick Berg, a 26-year- old American who was kidnapped and beheaded in Iraq, the Associated Press reported, citing an unidentified CIA official.

The CIA determined that al-Zarqawi is most likely Berg's killer after analyzing a video showing Berg's execution, AP said. On the tape, the person determined to be al-Zarqawi and wearing a mask and headscarf, reads a statement criticizing teachers of Islam, then kills Berg, AP reported.

Berg, whose body was found Saturday in Baghdad, was in Iraq to find work on communications towers.

U.S. authorities have said Berg entered Iraq from Jordan and was arrested by Iraqi police near Mosul on March 24, AP reported.

 

[macscr]

LOL, i havent been out of the country? I have been to 9 different countries. I didnt go to any of them for tourism either so Im betting i have seen a lot more than most people.

 

[katka]

LOL, i havent been out of the country? I have been to 9 different countries. I didnt go to any of them for tourism either so Im betting i have seen a lot more than most people.

Your statements do NOT support your experience. So if I you were you I don't think that I would be laughing at all. Where in those 9 places were you NOT FREE and why would you go to a place where you weren't? Freedom is a tricky word. Freedom to use a cell phone that can be traced at the drop of a dime isn't really freedom. Is it? Obviously you can't control where you are born but you can control where your kids are. If I had to cover my body since birth I would not be free because I had the right not to cover my body it would just be a half naked woman. I think you get my point.

 

[Tsunami982]

i think you should take the link down... its a little tasteless dont you think?

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Tsunami982
i think you should take the link down... its a little tasteless dont you think?

It would only be tasteless if people were forced to click on it.

 

[Xenon14]

Originally posted by: steeplerot
This is exactly what you get when you occupy a forigen country and the people want you out. I can't believe people see this and want to stay for more.
Better you then me I guess. Thats what it all comes down to.
I hope his family gets justice from the US govermentfor putting this young man in such a horrible prediciment.
(He was suppossed to have been home with his family but wasen't thanks to another govermemnt screw up.)
Nuking anyone is a very stupid idea. Go read what it does to the planet. Your killing yourselves for revenge against a people doing this becasue WE are there.
Well maybe other people are but I am sure not.
Shameful time to have been born in US.
This country has no buisness in these peoples land.
Nor do the Israelis.
US and Isreal out of mideast the sooner the better.

"This is exactly what you get when you occupy a forigen country and the people want you out. I can't believe people see this and want to stay for more. " - Are you completely ignorant of the facts? MOST people want us there. It's the oppressors/killers that want us out. Why do they want us out? B/c we freed the rest of the 99% of the population from oppression and tyranny.

"I hope his family gets justice from the US govermentfor putting this young man in such a horrible prediciment." He was there on his own accord. You're blaming the US government for Nick Berg's death? News flash: Fundamentalist Jihadists killed him, not America.

Where were you when Saddam gassed and tortured his own people? Who stood up to Saddam when he oppressed and killed his own people?

"Shameful time to be born in the US" - Because we protect the right to Life, to Freedom?

The problem with most people that see this war negatively is because they have no idea what life is like outside of the united states. They sit here with their baseball games, and potato chips, thier american McDonald stores and Girls Gone Wild videos, completely ignorant of the fact that everything they have is BECAUSE of the US governemnt, and that most people in the world are oppressed from even getting the opportuntiy to have a right to an education. I lived in Uzbekistan, where before I even attended school, it was predetermined that I would never be able to afford a car or any luxury beyond a television. I couldn't even practice religion. It sickins me how people curse at America. I have no problem with people that disagree with the war, so long as they have constructive reasons behind it, but when people make blanket statements devoid of facts it is unnerving. I think every American should live in a third world country for a month, things would be very different.

 

[Format C:]

Sure didn't take long for all you military loathing liberals to start showing your true colors.

mscscr, if you are who you say then I salute you sir and I thank you from the bottom of my heart for your courage and your sacrifice. After the sentiments you've been exposed to here I sincerely hope that you will take some comfort in the knowledge that this small handful of ungrateful mealy mouthed morally bankrupt mental midgets amount to no more than belly button lint on the vast body of gratitude felt by real Americans.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: macscr
LOL, i havent been out of the country? I have been to 9 different countries. I didnt go to any of them for tourism either so Im betting i have seen a lot more than most people.

So where were you? Afghanistan, Libya, Bosnia, Kosovo? I could verify your story if it is indeed correct.

However, the broomhandle and chemical lights remarks are abuses committed by American soldiers against Iraqi prisoners, and yes, they took pics of it.

The unproven stuff has already been proven too, by the viewers who have seen it, it shows an American woman named Lyndie England having sex and several Iraqi prisoners forced to perform oral and anal sex on eachother. There are also reports about anywhere from 10 to 20 prisoners being murdered by beating and torturing them to death.

I don't think it is strange that people question what i did when i went overseas when stuff like this happens.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: Format C:
Sure didn't take long for all you military loathing liberals to start showing your true colors.

mscscr, if you are who you say then I salute you sir and I thank you from the bottom of my heart for your courage and your sacrifice. After the sentiments you've been exposed to here I sincerely hope that you will take some comfort in the knowledge that this small handful of ungrateful mealy mouthed morally bankrupt mental midgets amount to no more than belly button lint on the vast body of gratitude felt by real Americans.

LOL, you think that because you accept EVERYTHING any american does, you are a real american?

You are not a real american, you do not fight for what is right, you do nothing at all but belitteling those who BELIEVE in their country and are fighting for change.

You are not a real American, if you think you are, prove it, what have YOU done for your country?

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: Format C:
Sure didn't take long for all you military loathing liberals to start showing your true colors.

mscscr, if you are who you say then I salute you sir and I thank you from the bottom of my heart for your courage and your sacrifice. After the sentiments you've been exposed to here I sincerely hope that you will take some comfort in the knowledge that this small handful of ungrateful mealy mouthed morally bankrupt mental midgets amount to no more than belly button lint on the vast body of gratitude felt by real Americans.

Should the 'non-response' policy be implemented for this post?

 

[CTho9305]

Originally posted by: ajf3
In Islam, the Qu'ran says not to kill people. Remember, these people aren't regualr Muslims. These are radicals, just like the KKK are radical Christians. Every Muslim I've ever met has been extremely nice, but there are always exceptions to the rule.

Uh-huh... Ever wonder why there aren't hordes of muslim/islamic groups denouncing this sort of behavior whenever it occurs?

http://dianedew.com/islam.htm

Islam Teaches...

On Murder and Violence:

Islam both allows and forbids murder and violence, depending on who is the recipient of the act.

Allowed:

"Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme." (Koran 8:37)

The Koran instructs not to make friendship with Jews and Christians (Koran 5:51) but to war against them: "When the Sacred Months are over, kill those who ascribe partners to God wheresoever ye find them; seize them, encompass them, and ambush them; then if they repent and observe prayer and pay the alms, let them go their way (Koran 4:5).

"Fight against those who believe not in God nor in the Last Day, who... refuse allegiance to the True Faith from among those who have received the Book, until they humbly pay tribute out of hand." (Koran 9:29) Note: These verses distinguish between warfare against pagans, and against Jews and Christians.[17]

"...kill the disbelievers wherever we find them" (Koran 2:191);

"fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem" (Koran 9:5); "murder them and treat them harshly" (Koran 9:123).

"Seize ye him, and bind ye him, And burn ye him in the Blazing Fire. Further, make him march in a chain, whereof the length is seventy cubits! This was he that would not believe in Allah Most High. And would not encourage the feeding of the indigent! So no friend hath he here this Day. Nor hath he any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds, Which none do eat but those in sin." (Koran 69:30-37)

"Strike off the heads of the disbelievers"; and after making a "wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives" (Koran 47:4).

"Instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers"; "smite above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them" (Koran 8:12; cp. 8:60).

"O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern against them. Their abode is Hell - an evil refuge indeed" (Koran 9:73).

"slay or crucify or cut the hands and feet of the unbelievers, that they be expelled from the land with disgrace..." (Koran 5:34).

"for them (the unbelievers) garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods" (Koran 22:19-22)

Allah himself is really the one slaying them:

"It is not us who slay them but Allah, in order that He might test the Believers by a gracious trial from Himself." (Koran 8:17; cp. Surah Al-Baqarah 2:190)
Allah "will punish them by our hands..." (Koran 9:14).

Jihad is mandatory.

"Unless we go forth, (for Jihad) He will punish us with a grievous penalty, and put others in our place" (Koran 9:38-39).

"And what is the matter with you that you do not fight in the cause of Allah and for those weak, ill treated and oppressed among men, women and children whose only cry is; 'Our Lord, rescue us from this town whose people are oppressors..." (Surah An-Nisa 4:75)

"Believers, when you encounter the armies of the infidels do not turn your backs to them in flight. If anyone on that day turns his back to them, except it be for tactical reasons, or to join another band he shall incur the wrath of Allah and Hell shall be his home: an evil fate." (Koran 8:12-17)

"The recompense for an injury is an injury equal thereto (in degree): but if a person forgives and make reconciliation his reward is due from Allah: For (Allah) loves not those who do wrong." (Koran 42:40)

It is acceptable to break treaties and obligations with pagans and make war on them whenever strong enough to do so (Koran 9:3).

Oh, come on. I could make christians and jews look just as bad. You people are no different. You both have crazy old beliefs and have passages in your book of how to live that say you should harm your enemies.

Interesting thought from one of my friends:

here's a little something it seems most people didn't think about...
right now, islam religion contains a few maniac lunatics that commit atrocities in the name of their god
islam religion is around 400-500 years younger than christian religion
christian religion ~500 years ago = spanish inquisition, protestant hunts, witch hunts...
same maturity phase, different weapon availability.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: CTho9305

Originally posted by: ajf3
In Islam, the Qu'ran says not to kill people. Remember, these people aren't regualr Muslims. These are radicals, just like the KKK are radical Christians. Every Muslim I've ever met has been extremely nice, but there are always exceptions to the rule.

Uh-huh... Ever wonder why there aren't hordes of muslim/islamic groups denouncing this sort of behavior whenever it occurs?

http://dianedew.com/islam.htm

Islam Teaches...

On Murder and Violence:

Islam both allows and forbids murder and violence, depending on who is the recipient of the act.

Allowed:

"Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme." (Koran 8:37)

The Koran instructs not to make friendship with Jews and Christians (Koran 5:51) but to war against them: "When the Sacred Months are over, kill those who ascribe partners to God wheresoever ye find them; seize them, encompass them, and ambush them; then if they repent and observe prayer and pay the alms, let them go their way (Koran 4:5).

"Fight against those who believe not in God nor in the Last Day, who... refuse allegiance to the True Faith from among those who have received the Book, until they humbly pay tribute out of hand." (Koran 9:29) Note: These verses distinguish between warfare against pagans, and against Jews and Christians.[17]

"...kill the disbelievers wherever we find them" (Koran 2:191);

"fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem" (Koran 9:5); "murder them and treat them harshly" (Koran 9:123).

"Seize ye him, and bind ye him, And burn ye him in the Blazing Fire. Further, make him march in a chain, whereof the length is seventy cubits! This was he that would not believe in Allah Most High. And would not encourage the feeding of the indigent! So no friend hath he here this Day. Nor hath he any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds, Which none do eat but those in sin." (Koran 69:30-37)

"Strike off the heads of the disbelievers"; and after making a "wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives" (Koran 47:4).

"Instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers"; "smite above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them" (Koran 8:12; cp. 8:60).

"O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern against them. Their abode is Hell - an evil refuge indeed" (Koran 9:73).

"slay or crucify or cut the hands and feet of the unbelievers, that they be expelled from the land with disgrace..." (Koran 5:34).

"for them (the unbelievers) garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods" (Koran 22:19-22)

Allah himself is really the one slaying them:

"It is not us who slay them but Allah, in order that He might test the Believers by a gracious trial from Himself." (Koran 8:17; cp. Surah Al-Baqarah 2:190)
Allah "will punish them by our hands..." (Koran 9:14).

Jihad is mandatory.

"Unless we go forth, (for Jihad) He will punish us with a grievous penalty, and put others in our place" (Koran 9:38-39).

"And what is the matter with you that you do not fight in the cause of Allah and for those weak, ill treated and oppressed among men, women and children whose only cry is; 'Our Lord, rescue us from this town whose people are oppressors..." (Surah An-Nisa 4:75)

"Believers, when you encounter the armies of the infidels do not turn your backs to them in flight. If anyone on that day turns his back to them, except it be for tactical reasons, or to join another band he shall incur the wrath of Allah and Hell shall be his home: an evil fate." (Koran 8:12-17)

"The recompense for an injury is an injury equal thereto (in degree): but if a person forgives and make reconciliation his reward is due from Allah: For (Allah) loves not those who do wrong." (Koran 42:40)

It is acceptable to break treaties and obligations with pagans and make war on them whenever strong enough to do so (Koran 9:3).

Oh, come on. I could make christians and jews look just as bad. You people are no different. You both have crazy old beliefs and have passages in your book of how to live that say you should harm your enemies.

Interesting thought from one of my friends:

here's a little something it seems most people didn't think about...
right now, islam religion contains a few maniac lunatics that commit atrocities in the name of their god
islam religion is around 400-500 years younger than christian religion
christian religion ~500 years ago = spanish inquisition, protestant hunts, witch hunts...
same maturity phase, different weapon availability.

That is indeed true, there have been as much wrondoings in the name of Christ as in the name of Allah.

I love your sig btw.

 

[CTho9305]

Originally posted by: Klixxer
I love your sig btw.

I stole it from n0cmonkey .

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: CTho9305

Originally posted by: Klixxer
I love your sig btw.

I stole it from n0cmonkey .

Ah, the man with the FAQ! Seen him around in OS forum but not much here.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: Format C:
Sure didn't take long for all you military loathing liberals to start showing your true colors.

mscscr, if you are who you say then I salute you sir and I thank you from the bottom of my heart for your courage and your sacrifice. After the sentiments you've been exposed to here I sincerely hope that you will take some comfort in the knowledge that this small handful of ungrateful mealy mouthed morally bankrupt mental midgets amount to no more than belly button lint on the vast body of gratitude felt by real Americans.

LOL, you think that because you accept EVERYTHING any american does, you are a real american?

You are not a real american, you do not fight for what is right, you do nothing at all but belitteling those who BELIEVE in their country and are fighting for change.

You are not a real American, if you think you are, prove it, what have YOU done for your country?

Originally posted by: Gaard
Should the 'non-response' policy be implemented for this post?

Probably

CkG

 

[RabidMongoose]

Ah, Klixxy boy with his soldier remarks. He seems to use that as an excuse for everything.

So predictable, Klixxy boy.

 

[Format C:]

What have I done for my country? Loved it for starters, which is more than can be said for some.