League of Legends - F2P MOBA (like DOTA) part 2

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nanobreath

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Brand is an anti-tank mage, a niche that didn't have someone in it until he came along. Not that he can't be effective against everyone but that's his specialty with his 2% max HP damage passive.

2%? Try 8%!! It is 2% per tick for 4 ticks. I cannot remember if it is every second or 2 seconds, but I do know it is 8% total. Also, I do not know if this stacks at all. As his 'w' and 'e' skills are usually used together and in rapid succession so I'm not sure you get the 8% additional dmg from each spell. That is one of the things I wanna look into.
 

crownjules

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Oh damn, you're right. That's pretty ridiculous and I suspect that if he is nerfed then that will be part of the change. I thought 2% over 4 seconds sounded reasonable for a passive but per second for 4 seconds is strong. It's basically half a Bloodrazors for free.
 

HumblePie

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Oh damn, you're right. That's pretty ridiculous and I suspect that if he is nerfed then that will be part of the change. I thought 2% over 4 seconds sounded reasonable for a passive but per second for 4 seconds is strong. It's basically half a Bloodrazors for free.

It doesn't stack. If brand uses one attack, and then another it rewrites on the first one. But then again, most of his attacks dish out extra damage when they hit a "burning" target which may be more than the extra 2-4% of total health damage if you waited a longer time period before hitting the target.
 

crownjules

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It doesn't stack. If brand uses one attack, and then another it rewrites on the first one. But then again, most of his attacks dish out extra damage when they hit a "burning" target which may be more than the extra 2-4% of total health damage if you waited a longer time period before hitting the target.

I know it doesn't stack. I've only played Brand in a practice game, so I don't know if Brand players unload all at once and only get the Ablaze damage from the last spell. Or do they space out the spells so you get a few ticks inbetween each? For a tank or brawler, you'd definitely want to do the latter since that's his strength.

Gonna have to actually play some Brand tonight in normal games.
 

LurkerPrime

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Well I have to hand it to my remaining team members for sticking it out and winning a ranked 4v5 game. We had a kog'maw that died at least 3 times in the laning phase and then disconnected around 10 minutes in. We continued even though at some points things looked a little hopeless (lost 2 inhibitors at one point). Surprisingly we won after 50+ minutes. I have to hand it to the Shen on my team for catching enemies with his taunt while they were retreating, which allowed me (as Olaf) to hack them to pieces.

Well after that ranked win I finally have 10 ranked games under my belt and finally got a rating. With a 5-5 record though I only have a 1243 rating. I'm also surprised that Karthus has been banned in the last few ranked games I've played. I have seemed to notice though that the low elo people in ranked games are usually much worse players than the average solo queue person.

The one thing I hate about ranked games is they take much longer just to get started. Then to top things off, some jackass leaves 2 seconds before the game is about to start. To be honest instead of the 5 min leaver penalty they should just take IP from you when you leave like that and distribute it evenly to the people whos time you just wasted.
 

ImpulsE69

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Is anyone else still getting that queue issue at log on? It's kind of turned me off of playing...
 

Kabob

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I got it for 2:30 last night, not as bad as the 30+ minute waits of last week.
 

AstroManLuca

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Played some more last night, and I did a lot better. Switched to using ranged characters and I really prefer them. Much easier for me to get away if I have an opportunity - sometimes there's just nothing I can do.

Then again, I might have been more successful because I was playing with a friend who'd pretty good at the game.

Anyway, I have been having some weird issues with my game. Whenever I am finished with a game, I hit the continue button and the whole thing quits. Launch LoL again and it tells me there's already an instance of the client running and would I like to close it, so I hit yes, then have to log in again. Happened like four times yesterday. Finally after my last game it took me to the post-battle screen like it should.

It also occasionally disconnects me from chat and immediately reconnects me. To other people, it looks like I've logged out and back on. At least I don't lose anything when this happens or get booted from a room. And sometimes the client will be unable to log me in at all until I quit and restart the game.

Anyone have any of these issues? I still enjoy the game but it's a bit frustrating.
 

zebano

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Jun 15, 2005
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Adobe Air sucks.

My most common issues:
1. Creating a game, I create ranked (shows ranked) the other teammembers see "normal" or vice-versa.

2. After a game is over it goes to the Air-client and says the game crashed, my only option is to try and reconnect... that will eventually fail and when I hit cancel I finally go to the post battle screen.

3. Creating a ranked game the start button stays grayed out and unclickable despite having 2 or 5 people in the room.

4. Creating a game, invite people who show up in the room but the right hand pane shows that they declined the invite.

5. Constantly disconnect and then re-log into chat (this is much better than it was as it used to stay disconnected for extended periods of time).

6. Twice I've been on the masteries screen in champ-select and it won't allow me to allocate the 30th point. The lower-left still shows that I have 1 point remaining and I end up with only 29 masteries that game.
 

Kabob

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Is the new patcher they're releasing soon not based on Adobe Air? That would alleviate tons of problems. Can't tell you the number of times I've been frozen between the end of the game and waiting for the stats screen.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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Is the new patcher they're releasing soon not based on Adobe Air? That would alleviate tons of problems. Can't tell you the number of times I've been frozen between the end of the game and waiting for the stats screen.

Check your taskbar for the leagueoflegends icon and go from there. I used to get that problem a lot too and I found I could bring the stats screen up with that.
 

Firsttime

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Bought Jax, he's a hilarious pub troll. Worth the 292 RP just for the first game I played him. Easy to see how he's useless at higher levels though haha.
 

zebano

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Bought Jax, he's a hilarious pub troll. Worth the 292 RP just for the first game I played him. Easy to see how he's useless at higher levels though haha.

The fact that he fights with a lamppost in order to give everyone else a chance always gave me a chuckle.
 

Ushio

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I'm thinking about picking up udyr, anyone with experience with him on what runes/jungle routes to go with?

Oh and sorry about that crappy game last night Zeb, pretty much wasted the solo lane and couldn't bring in any dmg during team fights.
 

zebano

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I'm thinking about picking up udyr, anyone with experience with him on what runes/jungle routes to go with?

Oh and sorry about that crappy game last night Zeb, pretty much wasted the solo lane and couldn't bring in any dmg during team fights.

eh I pretty much sucked yesterday. I kept trying to target the Ryze because he was about 60% of their damage and I kept getting separated from the team. Oh well.

I play Udyr a lot I like ArPen red, AS yellow, flat MR blue, Flat health Quint and a 15/0/15 mastery. I usually go ghost / smite but I'll go exhaust / smite if I'm playing ranked and won't need the extra speed at all.

I start with 5x hp pot, cloth armor, take tiger and use it once (preps your next attack to have a dot) before leaving base. Have your mid leash blue, hit it once, hit 'q' hit again, pot as soon as they attack you, use q when available and smite at < 500hp. I take turtle at 2, kill wolves and wraiths and either take bear and gank mid or take another point in turtle then kill dual golems, both little golems at red, back, shop (boots + ward + pots) kill red, take bear and gank.
Note that if you use more turtle and less other skills you will be able to jungle longer but it will be slower.

I usually level q > w > w > e > q > e > w > e > q > e > e (bear 5, tiger 3 , turtle 3) > q > q > r > r > r > r >r

I build lantern, boots then defensive items then either triforce or bloodrazor (I'll mix pieces in with my defensive items if I don't need the defense asap). A typical build is:
lantern, boots 3, triforce, Raduins, banshees.
 

Malak

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Well, I can't win against easy bots. Can't even get a single kill against them. Against humans, there's no chance at all. At least against easy bots I usually know why I'm dying (chasing or something). Against humans, I'll be walking along one second and the next thing I know I can't move and there are three guys surrounding me and I'm dead.

I think the game is just too hard for me. There's no way I'm playing against other humans for a long time if I don't even stand a chance against easy computer opponents. The only way I can win is if there are four good players on my team to pick up the slack, but if that's the case, what's the point?

The point is not to kill but rather to not die. Tower diving is pointless if you are going to die too, a lot of things can happen to make it so you die for nothing. Always run in the beginning if you get jumped, and never play across halfway on the map because both the computer and humans know you are an easy bank because they can flank you.

Harass and assist ganks, don't be a hero. Yet.
 

guy666

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I'm thinking about picking up udyr, anyone with experience with him on what runes/jungle routes to go with?

Oh and sorry about that crappy game last night Zeb, pretty much wasted the solo lane and couldn't bring in any dmg during team fights.

I kill my entire side of jungle with Udyr in under 4 mins with 21/0/9 masteries, armor yellow, mr blues, armor pen reds, and attack damage quints. I start at blue, go to wolves then wraiths then red then lesser golems. From there I either gank or go back to wolves.
I typically skill q w q e then whatever I feel I need most.

Oops forgot to mention I start with 5 hp pots + armor. I stay over half hp the whole time if someone pulls blue.

Btw Zebano you shouldn't tiger in base, the first time you go into a stance it doesn't have a 6 sec cooldown allowing you to get 2 stacks on your passive if you do it at golem.
 
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Fallengod

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In general, what do you people use for your quints? Fairly new so I have limited IP to spend. Trying to decide if I should just go for more armor/magic penetration or health or something.
 

Fenixgoon

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In general, what do you people use for your quints? Fairly new so I have limited IP to spend. Trying to decide if I should just go for more armor/magic penetration or health or something.

HP quints are pretty universal, but you may want to get something else depending on the chars you like to play
 

Fallengod

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Yeah. I was initially thinking of more magic and armor pen, but I dont know. Its a big choice cause they are 1025 ip each. : /

Ive been reading lots of user guides on builds for heroes and trying to pay attention to runes people recommend and it is all over the place. I guess people just buy all the runes and customize them to each hero. Well, I cant do that until I have played this game for a while.

Some people got crit chance, health, attack speed, bleh.
 

Taejin

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i would normally have recommended hp quints, but since their nerfs a few patches back i like them less.

if you're a newer player and you need the tank in lane, get hp quints. otherwise i'd say movespeed quints are wayyyyyyyyyyyyy better.


edit: I'd say the top 3 in terms of quints, in no particular order, are: movespeed, hp, armor pen
 
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crownjules

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Movespeed are good on certain champs for sure but I'd not advocate them for someone still learning the game. I think for casters it's been shown AP quints are the best right now if you don't want HP.
 

nanobreath

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I know it doesn't stack. I've only played Brand in a practice game, so I don't know if Brand players unload all at once and only get the Ablaze damage from the last spell. Or do they space out the spells so you get a few ticks inbetween each? For a tank or brawler, you'd definitely want to do the latter since that's his strength.

Gonna have to actually play some Brand tonight in normal games.

With brand I unleash his spells quickly and in quick succession. You can absolutely melt through peoples HP. The passive is good for two things: 1. Harassing the tank(or anybody else really) that is far forward. 2. Killing blows on people as they run away. You don't leave time between the spells, because the quicker you use them the quicker you can use them again. As powerful as the passive is, it still doesn't do as much damage as your spell does upfront. You still focus on the squishies as much as possible, the bonus with brand is that in the process you still melt a lot of the tanks HP.

Check your taskbar for the leagueoflegends icon and go from there. I used to get that problem a lot too and I found I could bring the stats screen up with that.

Same. If you find the client window is missing after finishing a game, just check your system taskbar in the bottom right hand corner, it will still be running.
 

Firsttime

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Just played one of my more intense games lately. Was placed randomly against your GF Rhoxed. She was super tank Maoki, I was pro assist Lee Sin. I was ready to surrender 45 minutes in, we were getting raped by a fed Eve. But we turtled it out for a bit got level capped and caught them at Baron for the 4 kills and pushed the towers down at throne. If my retard teammates had tanked it with me we could have won there, but we managed to get it on our res which was nice.