DivideBYZero
Lifer
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The british have been smoking for centuries. You left because well, you suck, and we kicked your ass for infringing on our rights, bitch!
Now go inhale some bangers and mash, pour a few pints down your throat and go pay your 48% taxes and enjoy it.
PS. your PM sucks american cock and LOVES it!
DivideBYZero
Lifer
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No, YOU suck!
PS: I won't infringe his right to suck cock of any nationality. Even dumb puppet cock will do.
Doesn't anyone see how crazy it is that if I were to decide to start a bar that was for only smokers that the law would prohibit it?
I could call it lung cancer heaven, and post signs everywhere that people smoke inside. And the government would tell me that I cannot do it, because it would inconvenience the non-smokers.
I think laws like this are just dumb, and I don't even smoke.
I could call it lung cancer heaven, and post signs everywhere that people smoke inside. And the government would tell me that I cannot do it, because it would inconvenience the non-smokers.
I think laws like this are just dumb, and I don't even smoke.
DivideBYZero
Lifer
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Compare apples with oranges. London != England. Is Detriot = America?
/counts amount of times robbed at gunpoint....
None.
Nope it's *confirmed* the british are sucky wankers *confirmed*.
You can't infringe on his rights, the public doesn't have enough power to change anything in your govt. Sad situation.
DivideBYZero
Lifer
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You can say that without any irony? Really, the same can be very easily applied to your 'democratic' situation.
Mr.IncrediblyBored
Lifer
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How the hell can you see an analogy without seeing what it represents?
Within the context of an argument, the sole purpose of using an analogy is to represent your position in a different light. Your analogy does a terrible job of helping your position. In fact, it's completely irrelevant.I get it, you have no real argument.
Thanks, I think we're done here.
DivideBYZero
Lifer
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Back it up with credible sources and I'll try to give your fox-news inspired views a good run, just for kicks.
Federal republic...it was never meant to be a direct democracy. And you've got Hamilton in your sig?! He was one of the biggest proponents of the federal system!
Would you two girls stop? You're getting tufts of hair & flakes of nail polish all over off topic :frown:
DivideBYZero
Lifer
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Originally posted by: KnightBreed
How the hell can you see an analogy without seeing what it represents?
I get it, you have no real argument.
Thanks, I think we're done here.
I represented it in a different light, you concentrated on the analogy literally. You have no argument yourself. More you are jus tjoining the beying crowd as it appears I am the only one in this thread brave enough to still stand for a ban.
Go on all of you, join in with the peer group and circle jerk yourselves into a smoke filled oblivion.
DivideBYZero
Lifer
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Oh, leave the sig alone will you, FFS. What has it done to you? I was drawing a parallel between current governments, can you not see? Jeez, do I need to spoon feed you all the time?
DivideBYZero
Lifer
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Except there is NO PARALLEL between the UK government and the US government. Who needs to spoon feed who here? It's not a democracy. Anyone who thinks it is was not paying attention during grade school social studies classes. At least you can make the excuse that you aren't American, but I'm sorry - you are misinformed.
As for your sig, quoting Hamilton and not understanding federalism is like quoting Ghandi and not understanding passive resistance.
Amused
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Good GAWD it's common knowledge.
Here's an in depth study of national crime rates:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cnscj.pdf
Here's your own biased news whining about the truth:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/810522.stm
Here's even more whining by your press, and vain excuse making. But the numbers are undeniable:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh...ml&sSheet=/news/2002/12/01/ixhome.html
You missed the part where the thug is not likely to be armed (with a firearm) due to low usage of guns in violent crimes. You'll still get robbed by a thug, but he will have a knife or something. Or just look mean. Anyway I'll take robbed by a thug over murdered by a thug.
I don't know what this jingoism has to do with cigarettes at this point anyway.
Growing up, I lived in a town where all the restaurants had smoking and non-smoking sections, and it was a complete joke. Only about a third of them had any sort of separate ventilation system. And this ventilation system did not help if you were seated near the bar or smoking section, where despite best efforts, smoke would still cause allergic reactions as a kid. So it's not really a matter of choosing to go to a restaurant that had smoking or not, because all of them did. I suspect a large portion of georgia is the same way.
JulesMaximus
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I'd rather be part of this system than yours, hundreds of millions seem to feel the same way everyday. Bow down, kiss the queen and keep on thinking that the house of commons actually hold some semblance of power. I really don't care to make a US vs UK fight, I was just poking fun at you wankers, you guys make it WAY too easy!
Yea, vouching for govt. control is TRUE bravery! :roll:
It's simply about personal freedoms, nothing more. The govt. feels it has the right to remove my rights and freedoms as it sees fit. That's not the way govt was intended.
If I want to go down in a smoke filled oblivian than that is my choice and you should support my free will. You don't have to like it, the solution is very simple, don't come around our smoking establishments and your problem is solved.
Ps. stop telling people they are taking your analogy literally and berating them for it. Your analogy was piss poor to begin with and was shot down by other opposing analogies and literal interpretations. So stfu and concede to the fact that you have no arguement except your desire to continue a flamefest and look like a moron.
You missed the numerous other threads on this topic where it's been throughly proven that no matter which way you cut it the UK's crime and violence rates are far above america and the vast majority of the civilized world.
your anologies, and your point, suck for the simple fact that be it smoke, or your "sh!t stink machine" i always have the option to move away from the offending odor. who says you must stand by the smoker if you think it stinks?
You mean like by the links above which say exactly what I just stated? Also, I want to note that your apparent definition of civilized is a lot different than mine. I consider every country with civilization to be part of the civilized world.
Florida did it a while back (Clean Indoor Air Act) and it's based on protecting employees rather than customers. IMO it's a good law. It's no different than banning smoking on air travel.
Smokers make up a minority of the population. Why should non-smokers have to put up with the effects of their habit? It's so much nicer to go to a restaurant without leaving smelling of smoke even though you were in the non-smoking section. Non-smoking sections don't work unless they are physically separated and on different ventilation systems.
The argument that the gov't shouldn't be able to tell private establisments how they can run their business is invalid. There are many laws and regulations that do just that - this is just another one.
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