*Kitna named Superbowl MVP!* Official NFL 2013 Postseason thread

[purbeast0]

The booing wasn't because they're classless as much as they're fucking stupid.

Throughout the year when the Eagles' fast-pace no-huddle offense had a lot of sustained drives players would get "cramps" so they could give their defense a rest and a chance to make subs. This was especially evident in the season opener vs. the Washington football team.

Then it became every time a player got injured they "had to" be faking it.

I only went to a few games this year and never participated in it. When they boo player injuries, even if there is a chance they're faking, it makes me cringe.

no the booing is because they are classless. it's philly, they have and always will be that type of fans.

 

[rudeguy]

You can't force them to score a touchdown. Coaches do tell players not to score. We saw it in the Super Bowl a few years ago when Ahmad Bradshaw tried to stop but fell into the end zone. I think there was another recent instance, maybe involving the Ravens?

I'm going off my severely decrepit memory but I seem to recall a penalty when a runner stopped short of the end zone. I think it was a delay of game but I don't remember the details.

 

[zinfamous]

I'm going off my severely decrepit memory but I seem to recall a penalty when a runner stopped short of the end zone. I think it was a delay of game but I don't remember the details.

like when DeSean Jackson broke free on that 60 yarder at the end of the game, then proceeded to run parallel to the goal line until the Skins defender got close enough to encourage him into the end zone?

I think that was Jackson's rookie year....and a very, very bad memory of a football game, for myself.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

I'm going off my severely decrepit memory but I seem to recall a penalty when a runner stopped short of the end zone. I think it was a delay of game but I don't remember the details.

There's no rule that players are required to score a touchdown. The only thing I could think of is if a player slowed down and turned around to taunt the other team before scoring, because taunting is illegal (and I have seen such a play flagged as such). But I also recall a game fairly recently where a player intercepted a ball and ran it inside the ten yard line but went down before scoring specifically so his team could run all the time off the clock and then score without the other team having an opportunity to possess the ball and potentially pull off a miracle comeback.

 

[rudeguy]

like when DeSean Jackson broke free on that 60 yarder at the end of the game, then proceeded to run parallel to the goal line until the Skins defender got close enough to encourage him into the end zone?

I think that was Jackson's rookie year....and a very, very bad memory of a football game, for myself.

damn it....that's not it

This is why I hate my brain. It will remember half of something and then leave me hanging.


For a week now I have had a movie quote stuck in my head. Its some British person yelling "Bobby" or "Tommy" or "Toby" or...maybe its a Southern accent? I remember just enough to piss myself off.

 

[rudeguy]

There's no rule that players are required to score a touchdown. The only thing I could think of is if a player slowed down and turned around to taunt the other team before scoring, because taunting is illegal (and I have seen such a play flagged as such). But I also recall a game fairly recently where a player intercepted a ball and ran it inside the ten yard line but went down before scoring specifically so his team could run all the time off the clock and then score without the other team having an opportunity to possess the ball and potentially pull off a miracle comeback.

Right. And the talking heads had a field day talking about the call.

Maybe it was a college game? GRRRRR I hate my brain.

 

[manly]

There's no rule that players are required to score a touchdown. The only thing I could think of is if a player slowed down and turned around to taunt the other team before scoring, because taunting is illegal (and I have seen such a play flagged as such). But I also recall a game fairly recently where a player intercepted a ball and ran it inside the ten yard line but went down before scoring specifically so his team could run all the time off the clock and then score without the other team having an opportunity to possess the ball and potentially pull off a miracle comeback.

Up until the Saints converted a first down at the Eagles' 24 yard line, I think the defense still has to be trying to force a 42 yard FG attempt with some time left on the clock for a miracle drive.

But at that point, it almost certainly is optimal to concede a TD with as much time left as possible. Sean Payton is pretty smart and maybe he instructs his RB not to score too quickly, but who knows. In the chaos of the situation, Eagles players falling to the ground maybe convinces the RB to waltz into the end zone. I'm pretty sure the player can't just sit on the 3 yard line. Once forward progress is stopped, the refs will whistle the play dead.

DeSean Jackson did go to Berkeley, so he was smart enough to keep "running" to burn the rest of the game clock down.

 

[zinfamous]

damn it....that's not it

This is why I hate my brain. It will remember half of something and then leave me hanging.


For a week now I have had a movie quote stuck in my head. Its some British person yelling "Bobby" or "Tommy" or "Toby" or...maybe its a Southern accent? I remember just enough to piss myself off.

I think Jackson was flagged for delay of game (taunting), which he was, well doing, but it's pretty clear that he was also trying to run out the clock. ...just choosing to turn a smart play into a douchey play.

as for the flick: was it Reservoir Dogs, where Laurence Tierny (not British) was reading that list: Toby Chong? Toby Chan? Toby etc etc? something like that.

 

[Kev]

Because we know there is zero, I repeat zero, fake injuries when playing a fast paced no huddle offense.

I'm of the opinion that if a player has to come out for injuries, he's gotta go out for a series or 2 minutes of game time, whichever expires first. Timeouts and natural breaks like the end of a quarter or 2 minute warning allows you to send your "injured" player back in of course.

Totally agree. Still think booing injuries is wrong though.

 

[Imported]

Because we know there is zero, I repeat zero, fake injuries when playing a fast paced no huddle offense.

I'm of the opinion that if a player has to come out for injuries, he's gotta go out for a series or 2 minutes of game time, whichever expires first. Timeouts and natural breaks like the end of a quarter or 2 minute warning allows you to send your "injured" player back in of course.

I think not allowing them back in until the next first down would be a bit better. A whole series could be 10+ minutes.

 

[RPD]

I think not allowing them back in until the next first down would be a bit better. A whole series could be 10+ minutes.

If they aren't faking an injury it's not an issue. I think it should be 5 solid game time minutes. Remember if the clock is ticking, up to 40s are taken up each play.

 

[davmat787]

IMO Cam is a good QB that will get better with time - he may become one of the greats one day. I am greatly pulling for the Panthers to win it all; but in reality, I expect the SB to have Denver beating Seattle...

I think Denver will be in trouble against Carolina, San Fran, or Seattle. Especially against Seattle, the 'Hawks are a matchup nightmare for Denver given their secondary.

Nothing against Denver, but if they make the Superbowl it will be nothing but a Peyton Manning media suckfest leading up to the game, and during it. Whatever team they play will barely be covered in comparison.

And I can't stand media suckoff fests.

 

[Childs]

There's no rule that players are required to score a touchdown. The only thing I could think of is if a player slowed down and turned around to taunt the other team before scoring, because taunting is illegal (and I have seen such a play flagged as such). But I also recall a game fairly recently where a player intercepted a ball and ran it inside the ten yard line but went down before scoring specifically so his team could run all the time off the clock and then score without the other team having an opportunity to possess the ball and potentially pull off a miracle comeback.

I have seen multiple instances of this, usually a running back:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3158572
http://www.9news.com/sports/football/nfl/denver_broncos/358787/72/Denver-goes-against-popular-notion

And Bradshaw almost did it in the Superbowl against the Patriots, but his momentum carried him in.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2012/feb/06/super-bowl-giants-eli-manning-patriots

 

[MetalMat]

I have seen multiple instances of this, usually a running back:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3158572
http://www.9news.com/sports/football/nfl/denver_broncos/358787/72/Denver-goes-against-popular-notion

And Bradshaw almost did it in the Superbowl against the Patriots, but his momentum carried him in.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2012/feb/06/super-bowl-giants-eli-manning-patriots

Ray Rice did it this season, I think it was the bears game.

 

[BergeLSU]

If they aren't faking an injury it's not an issue. I think it should be 5 solid game time minutes. Remember if the clock is ticking, up to 40s are taken up each play.

It's a bigger issue if you have a "penalty" for being injured. If you force a guy out of a series or for 5 minutes if he gets hurt, they will be MUCH more likely to fight through it. Then you will have players with much worse injuries.

Plus you have people booing about injury stoppages that don't matter. A Saint went down on Phily's last drive of the 2nd quarter, and the boos came out in force. He went down with 2:08 and the clock running. Phily was ready to let it run to the 2 minute warning.

 

[zinfamous]

Ray Rice did it this season, I think it was the bears game.

and yet another nail in the Ray Rice coffin for fantasy owners this season.

 

[smackababy]

no the booing is because they are classless. it's philly, they have and always will be that type of fans.

Philly fans have always been the scum of the earth. Just ask any fans of other NFC East times...

Sean Payton suspended for bounties? The Eagles hosted two Bounty Bowls against the Cowboys and likely shortened Aikman's career.

 

[davmat787]

Philly fans have always been the scum of the earth. Just ask any fans of other NFC East times...

Sean Payton suspended for bounties? The Eagles hosted two Bounty Bowls against the Cowboys and likely shortened Aikman's career.

Didn't Michael Irvins neck injury happen in Philly? Don't remember if that was from a dirty play or not. Anyone?

But yea, booing injuries is pretty classless. I recall some Phillies games where fans were throwing batteries at the opposing teams outfielders.

Why are some fans in Philadelphia so classless at times? Multiple sports over several decades too. What gives?

Here in Seattle that energy is channeled into a pretty damn good home field advantage. Of course there are some drunken fans always looking for trouble, but they are often pointed out to security and dealt with so the focus is on the game.

 

[lupi]

smith will play, quality of which to be determined.

 

[zinfamous]

Didn't Michael Irvins neck injury happen in Philly? Don't remember if that was from a dirty play or not. Anyone?

yes, it did. And I think I mentioned it earlier in this thread--as classless as philly fans have always been, that was the one moment that I supported them.

Couldn't have happened to a worse human being.

But yea, booing injuries is pretty classless. I recall some Phillies games where fans were throwing batteries at the opposing teams outfielders.

Why are some fans in Philadelphia so classless at times? Multiple sports over several decades too. What gives?

Here in Seattle that energy is channeled into a pretty damn good home field advantage. Of course there are some drunken fans always looking for trouble, but they are often pointed out to security and dealt with so the focus is on the game.

they once booed Santa Clause--I think it was an Eagles game. I remember watching them boo Destiny's Child during halftime of the Sixers/Lakers Championship series...what was that, 2000, 2001?

 

[Imported]

Yea, the Eagles fans booed Santa Claus. I remember watching an ESPN piece on it.

 

[Excelsior]

saints vs. colts - both #1 made it

Oh yeah, my bad.

 

[smackababy]

Didn't Michael Irvins neck injury happen in Philly? Don't remember if that was from a dirty play or not. Anyone?

But yea, booing injuries is pretty classless. I recall some Phillies games where fans were throwing batteries at the opposing teams outfielders.

Why are some fans in Philadelphia so classless at times? Multiple sports over several decades too. What gives?

Here in Seattle that energy is channeled into a pretty damn good home field advantage. Of course there are some drunken fans always looking for trouble, but they are often pointed out to security and dealt with so the focus is on the game.

I don't think the Irvin tackle was dirty. He just landed bad and had some spinal cord problem that went diagnosed until then I believe. Philly did boo though. Irvin later said he accepted it because he'd been "killing them for the past 10 years."

 

[Via]

Fans want to pay multi-millionaire Marshawn Lynch's $50,000 fine for ignoring the media.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/06/fans-start-fund-to-pay-lynchs-fine/

How do people like this figure out how to work the internet?

 

[davmat787]

Fans want to pay multi-millionaire Marshawn Lynch's $50,000 fine for ignoring the media.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/06/fans-start-fund-to-pay-lynchs-fine/

How do people like this figure out how to work the internet?

I am a huge Seahawks fan, and I think this is ridiculous. Part of his 7 million dollar contract, like other NFL players, contracts him to speak to the media.

Lynch 2.0 is a much different person than when he entered the league as a Buffalo Bill. He got into a lot of trouble "keeping it real" with his homies. Someone got to him in Seattle, and he has been a pretty decent guy except for that DUI issue. Part of his turnaround has been to be humble and let his play do the talking. He rarely talks to the media anymore.