Kavanaugh SCOTUS Senate Judicial Hearing

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Josephus312

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Those straws are getting thinner all the time. LoL.

Good job!

They sure are, first there was not supposed to be an FBI investigation, then it was called for, then it was limited in scope by the WH who are part of the executive branch which would make it unconstitutional to make such demands and then the order is from the WH which means that they can do that...

It's not tricksters and players playing your fucking mind at all, oh no, this is real transparency just like it works in Soviet Russia.

Give the FBI as long as it takes to conduct an investigation and no limits on anything regarding that investigation, THAT is transparency as we did it before Trump, not the dictatorship rules of the Russian stooge.

Can you give me ONE single reason why anyone should dictate an FBI investigation when they have interests in the outcome of that investigation?
 

emperus

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All I did was study...

Kavanaugh Was Questioned by Police After Bar Fight in 1985
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/01/us/politics/kavanaugh-bar-fight.html

“On one of the last occasions I purposely socialized with Brett, I witnessed him respond to a semi-hostile remark, not by defusing the situation, but by throwing his beer in the man’s face,” Mr. Ludington said in the statement. Mr. Ludington, a college professor at North Carolina State, said he came forward because he believed Judge Kavanaugh had mischaracterized the extent of his drinking at Yale.
 

Jhhnn

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Taj is right, for a change. There's nothing incontrovertible about the most recent accusations.
 
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12 inconsistencies in Dr. Ford's story according to the professional prosecutor that questioned her.

1. Witnesses Corroborate Not Ford, But Kavanaugh’s Stance
2. Ford Keeps Changing Her Story On When The Alleged Attack Occurred
3. Ford Didn’t Name Kavanaugh As The Attacker Until Now
4. Ford Has Changed The Description Of The Trauma She Allegedly Suffered

5. Ford Can’t Recall Key Details That Could Corroborate Her Story
6. Ford Has Changed Her Story About The Alleged Attack
7. The Number Of People She Says Were Present At The Party Keeps Changing
8. Ford’s Recent Memory Is Full Of Gaps
9. Stated Reasons For Coming Forward Are Not Consistent
10. Ford’s Polygraph Is Suspect
11. The Claimed Psychological Effects Of The Trauma Keep Changing
12. Ford’s Lawyers Probably Affected Ford’s Story

http://thefederalist.com/2018/10/01...ive-inconsistencies-kavanaugh-accusers-story/





 

soundforbjt

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12 inconsistencies in Dr. Ford's story according to the professional prosecutor that questioned her.

1. Witnesses Corroborate Not Ford, But Kavanaugh’s Stance
2. Ford Keeps Changing Her Story On When The Alleged Attack Occurred
3. Ford Didn’t Name Kavanaugh As The Attacker Until Now
4. Ford Has Changed The Description Of The Trauma She Allegedly Suffered
5. Ford Can’t Recall Key Details That Could Corroborate Her Story
6. Ford Has Changed Her Story About The Alleged Attack
7. The Number Of People She Says Were Present At The Party Keeps Changing
8. Ford’s Recent Memory Is Full Of Gaps
9. Stated Reasons For Coming Forward Are Not Consistent
10. Ford’s Polygraph Is Suspect
11. The Claimed Psychological Effects Of The Trauma Keep Changing
12. Ford’s Lawyers Probably Affected Ford’s Story

http://thefederalist.com/2018/10/01...ive-inconsistencies-kavanaugh-accusers-story/




Person HIRED by Republicans does not believe Ford, in other news, Water still said to be wet.
 

Jhhnn

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12 inconsistencies in Dr. Ford's story according to the professional prosecutor that questioned her.

1. Witnesses Corroborate Not Ford, But Kavanaugh’s Stance
2. Ford Keeps Changing Her Story On When The Alleged Attack Occurred
3. Ford Didn’t Name Kavanaugh As The Attacker Until Now
4. Ford Has Changed The Description Of The Trauma She Allegedly Suffered
5. Ford Can’t Recall Key Details That Could Corroborate Her Story
6. Ford Has Changed Her Story About The Alleged Attack
7. The Number Of People She Says Were Present At The Party Keeps Changing
8. Ford’s Recent Memory Is Full Of Gaps
9. Stated Reasons For Coming Forward Are Not Consistent
10. Ford’s Polygraph Is Suspect
11. The Claimed Psychological Effects Of The Trauma Keep Changing
12. Ford’s Lawyers Probably Affected Ford’s Story

http://thefederalist.com/2018/10/01...ive-inconsistencies-kavanaugh-accusers-story/




Yeh, Taj, we know it's all a leftist plot to wreak revenge on behalf of the Clintons. That's what your boy said, isn't it?
 

HomerJS

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It just looks to me as if you don't know what the words means.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/incontrovertible

Since it's disputed until and unless you can show me his conviction for perjury.
Neither disputed or perjury has in its definition being found guilty in a court of law. Now if you can dispute Kavanaugh gathering evidence against a witness before she became public, go right ahead.

If you can't, chalk it up to another one of your feckless turd bombs.
 

HomerJS

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All I did was study...

Kavanaugh Was Questioned by Police After Bar Fight in 1985
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/01/us/politics/kavanaugh-bar-fight.html

“On one of the last occasions I purposely socialized with Brett, I witnessed him respond to a semi-hostile remark, not by defusing the situation, but by throwing his beer in the man’s face,” Mr. Ludington said in the statement. Mr. Ludington, a college professor at North Carolina State, said he came forward because he believed Judge Kavanaugh had mischaracterized the extent of his drinking at Yale.
How did he get into a bar fight when he was in church??

Oh wait a minute, the Federalist Society just released a statement "bar" back in 1985 was a code word for church. We can add that to Tajy's list
 

IJTSSG

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They sure are, first there was not supposed to be an FBI investigation, then it was called for, then it was limited in scope by the WH who are part of the executive branch which would make it unconstitutional to make such demands and then the order is from the WH which means that they can do that...

It's not tricksters and players playing your fucking mind at all, oh no, this is real transparency just like it works in Soviet Russia.

Give the FBI as long as it takes to conduct an investigation and no limits on anything regarding that investigation, THAT is transparency as we did it before Trump, not the dictatorship rules of the Russian stooge.

Can you give me ONE single reason why anyone should dictate an FBI investigation when they have interests in the outcome of that investigation?
You'll have to translate from fucktard to English if you want a response from me.
 

FIVR

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Apparently Kavanaugh has been calling his former classmates and begging them not tell anybody about his antics at Yale. This is from MSNBC.

Today I came upon this interesting article while searching google for more info on Kavanaugh calling his classmates. It sheds light on how absurd Taj's articles are :

https://www.thecut.com/2018/10/all-of-kavanaughs-classmates-who-have-called-him-a-liar.html

All of Brett Kavanaugh’s Classmates Who Have Accused Him of Lying

In the face of numerous sexual-assault allegations dating back to his high school and college years, all of which allegedly look place in the presence of copious alcohol use, Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh has tried to push back on reports that make it seem as though he and his friends were frequently drunk and belligerent, claiming he was a well-behaved boy who simply liked (and still likes!) beer — a characterization that a mounting number of his classmates are calling inaccurate.

Though he claimed during his testimony in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee that one of his female “feminist” friends from college sent him a text telling him that he’s a “good man,” a growing number of his former classmates are recalling harsher images of Kavanaugh: someone who was “belligerent,” “aggressive,” and “often drank to excess.” But when the New York Times revealed the four witnesses the FBI will question about the accusations against Kavanaugh, notably missing from the list were his former classmates who have contradicted the SCOTUS nominee’s testimony about his partying. This raises obvious concerns about how serious the investigation is being taken — and whose interests it’s seeking to protect.

Below, a list of every one of Kavanaugh’s former classmates who have called out his lies.

“In denying the possibility that he ever blacked out from drinking, and in downplaying the degree and frequency of his drinking, Brett has not told the truth.”
In a statement issued to the New York Times, Chad Ludington, a Yale classmate of Kavanaugh’s who claims they frequently drank together, said he is “deeply troubled by what has been a blatant mischaracterization by Brett himself of his drinking at Yale.”

“When Brett got drunk, he was often belligerent and aggressive,” said. “On one of the last occasions I purposely socialized with Brett, I witnessed him respond to a semi-hostile remark, not by defusing the situation, but by throwing his beer in the man’s face and starting a fight that ended with one of our mutual friends in jail.”

And while Ludington stressed that he doesn’t believe “the loutish behavior of an 18- or even 21-year-old should condemn a person for the rest of his life,” he does think that “Brett’s actions as a 53-year-old federal judge matter.”

“Loud, obnoxious frat boy-like drunks.”
Kit Winter lived in the same dorm as Kavanaugh at Yale, where he remembers the SCOTUS nominee and his crowd as “loud, obnoxious frat boy–like drunks.” He also recalled a shared bathroom that was perpetually covered in vomit.

“I have thought a lot about Kavanaugh’s statement on Fox, that he never drank so much that he didn’t remember what he had done the next morning,” he told the Cut. “And having witnessed the level of drunkenness of Brett and his crew in that dorm, and the vomitous aftermath in the bathroom, I find that very hard to believe.”

“There is no doubt in my mind that while at Yale, he was a big partier, often drank to excess, and there had to be a number of nights where he does not remember.”
In an interview with CNN, Lynn Brookes — the former roommate of Deborah Ramirez, who accused Kavanaugh of exposing himself to her at a Yale partyasserted she was “extremely disappointed” in the judge’s “blatant lying.” She said:

“I watched the whole hearing, and a number of my Yale colleagues and I were extremely disappointed in Brett Kavanaugh’s characterization of himself and the way that he evaded his excessive drinking questions. There is no doubt in my mind that while at Yale, he was a big partier, often drank to excess, and there had to be a number of nights where he does not remember. In fact, I would witness to the night that he got tapped into that fraternity, and he was stumbling drunk in a ridiculous costume saying really dumb things. I can almost guarantee that there’s no way that he remembers that night … There were a lot of emails and a lot of texts flying around about how he was lying to the Senate Judiciary Committee today.”

“It’s not credible for him to say that he has had no memory lapses in the nights that he drank to excess.”
Liz Swisher, a college friend of Kavanaugh’s, told the Washington Post that, although “there’s no medical way [she] can say that he was blacked out,” “it’s not credible for him to say that he has had no memory lapses in the nights that he drank to excess.”

“Brett was a sloppy drunk, and I know because I drank with him,” she said. “I watched him drink more than a lot of people. He’d end up slurring his words, stumbling.”

“Frequently drinking excessively and becoming incoherently drunk.”
Following Ramirez’s accusation against Kavanaugh, his former roommate James Roche spoke out in solidarity with Ramirez, releasing a statement that read, “Although Brett was normally reserved, he was a notably heavy drinker, even by the standards of the time, and that he became belligerent and aggressive when he was very drunk.”

“Based on my time with Debbie, I believe her to be unusually honest and straightforward and I cannot imagine her making this up,” Roche wrote. “Based on my time with Brett, I believe that he and his social circle were capable of the actions that Debbie described.”

Kavanuagh allegedly texted Yale classmates in an attempt to get ahead of Deborah Ramirez’s allegations.
According to a report by NBC News, Kavanaugh had begun reaching out to former classmates about Deborah Ramirez’s allegation against him well before the September 23 New Yorker article was published. This directly contradicts with Kavanaugh’s statement to the Senate Judiciary Committee that the article was the first time he had heard of Ramirez’s claim.

Text messages between former classmates of Kavanaugh, Kerry Berchem and Karen Yarasavage, show that members of Kavanaugh’s legal team, and even Kavanaugh himself, may have reached out to former classmates in an effort to discredit Ramirez’s claims, as early as July, well before the article was published. Berchem told NBC News through her lawyer that she tried multiple times to get the text messages to the FBI.

“I am in receipt of text messages from a mutual friend of both Debbie and mine that raise questions related to the allegations,” said a portion of Berchem’s statement. “I have not drawn any conclusions as to what the texts may mean or may not mean but I do believe they merit investigation by the FBI and the Senate.”

 

HomerJS

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Kavanugh is definitely a straught shooter... :rolleyes:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/su...vanaugh-anxious-come-forward-evidence-n915566
Further, the texts show Kavanaugh may need to be questioned about how far back he anticipated Ramirez would air allegations against him. Berchem says, in her memo, that Kavanaugh “and/or” his friends “may have initiated an anticipatory narrative” as early as July to “conceal or discredit” Ramirez.
Kavanaugh told the Senate Judiciary Committee under oath that the first time he heard of his former Yale classmate Deborah Ramirez’s allegation that he exposed himself to her in college was in a Sept. 23 article in The New Yorker.
Kavanaugh was asked by Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, when he first heard of Ramirez’s allegations. Kavanaugh answered: “In the New Yorker story.”
We knew this shit weeks ago when he released his binders full of 65 women to vouch for him. As if he knew in advance there was a problem.

At least he knew not to release a list of 69 women. That would have been a little awkward
 

FIVR

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Bret Kavanaugh has more skeletons in the closet than Saddam Hussein. I don't think the FBI can help themselves from finding something.
 

Commodus

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It just looks to me as if you don't know what the words means.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/incontrovertible

Since it's disputed until and unless you can show me his conviction for perjury.

So are you claiming that the text messages are fake? Because if they're not, then Kavanaugh lied. As it stands, he's already a known liar... this just adds to the pile.

And besides, you know a perjury conviction may be difficult given a Republican party that willfully ignores perjury in the name of its agenda.
 

Maxima1

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Wow. So it may be shaping up that McConnell & the rest already knew about it. Explosive if that pans out, and at the very least Kavanaugh would have been concealing from Donnie this allegation when he was up for nomination. There are a number of weird things like the letter of women supporting Kavanaugh, and McConnell still determined to get confirmation even after all this (was he really just worried about previous Bush admin documents?)

TIMELINE
6/27: Kennedy announces retirement
7/?: Kavanaugh seeks narrative to discredit Ramirez (NBC)
7/7: McConnell warns Trump against nominating Kavanaugh (NYT)
7/9: Trump nominates Kavanaugh
9/23: Ramirez allegations first published (NYer)
 

FIVR

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Wow. So it may be shaping up that McConnell & the rest already knew about it. Explosive if that pans out, and at the very least Kavanaugh would have been concealing from Donnie this allegation when he was up for nomination. There are a number of weird things like the letter of women supporting Kavanaugh, and McConnell still determined to get confirmation even after all this (was he really just worried about previous Bush admin documents?)

TIMELINE
6/27: Kennedy announces retirement
7/?: Kavanaugh seeks narrative to discredit Ramirez (NBC)
7/7: McConnell warns Trump against nominating Kavanaugh (NYT)
7/9: Trump nominates Kavanaugh
9/23: Ramirez allegations first published (NYer)

I knew it. That POS Kennedy sold out the nation for his slime ball rapist clerk.


It all was orchestrated. Kennedy would still be on the court until he got "his wish", that being a promise from mitch mcconnel to get Kavanaugh on the court


I'm also pissed off at Feinstein again. The fact that she didn't leak the allegations means if it were up to her we would've never known about any of this and Kavanaugh could've just as well been on the court. All because some sad 85 year old sack of skin thought she deserved "privacy" at the expense of the whole nation. That is a fvcking stupid reason to allow him on the court.

Fvck Dianne Feinstein. Fvck all these Boomers ruining our planet, our nation, and our lives probably a few short months from when theirs ends.
 

HomerJS

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Wow. So it may be shaping up that McConnell & the rest already knew about it. Explosive if that pans out, and at the very least Kavanaugh would have been concealing from Donnie this allegation when he was up for nomination. There are a number of weird things like the letter of women supporting Kavanaugh, and McConnell still determined to get confirmation even after all this (was he really just worried about previous Bush admin documents?)

TIMELINE
6/27: Kennedy announces retirement
7/?: Kavanaugh seeks narrative to discredit Ramirez (NBC)
7/7: McConnell warns Trump against nominating Kavanaugh (NYT)
7/9: Trump nominates Kavanaugh
9/23: Ramirez allegations first published (NYer)
If this timeline holds true it completely disavows Diane Feinstein from any responsibility for this coming out. It was my opinion that she didn't leak it anyway.

So, Republicans just as guilty as the leaker.
 

zinfamous

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Yeh, Taj, we know it's all a leftist plot to wreak revenge on behalf of the Clintons. That's what your boy said, isn't it?

I am indeed hoping that the scope of the FBI investigation involves this deep, leftist, Clinton conspiracy that Kavanaugh claimed is out to get him.

It's all tied to the accusations, anyway, as he claimed, so it has to be investigated, right? Or is he not going to be held accountable for making such claims before the senate, as if they are true?
 

Phokus

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Kavanugh is definitely a straught shooter... :rolleyes:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/su...vanaugh-anxious-come-forward-evidence-n915566
Further, the texts show Kavanaugh may need to be questioned about how far back he anticipated Ramirez would air allegations against him. Berchem says, in her memo, that Kavanaugh “and/or” his friends “may have initiated an anticipatory narrative” as early as July to “conceal or discredit” Ramirez.
Kavanaugh told the Senate Judiciary Committee under oath that the first time he heard of his former Yale classmate Deborah Ramirez’s allegation that he exposed himself to her in college was in a Sept. 23 article in The New Yorker.
Kavanaugh was asked by Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, when he first heard of Ramirez’s allegations. Kavanaugh answered: “In the New Yorker story.”

Basically Perjury.

Jeff Flake was asked if Boof, i mean Brett, lied to the senate if that would disqualify him from serving on the supreme court. He said yes. Brett was fucking stupid enough to try to get his friends to cover the allegations from Ramirez, THROUGH TEXT MESSAGES. They LITERALLY have receipts! Holy shit, lmao.
 
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kage69

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Get your Kleenex ready Boof Kavanaugh, I think you're going to be upset again!

Just imagine the shock rippling through the White House and ranks of the holy roller donor class right now. Hahaha
 

compuwiz1

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If Kavanaugh can't be confirmed, Trump should stop fighting it and just appoint a female conservative Judge.
 

Starbuck1975

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If Kavanaugh can't be confirmed, Trump should stop fighting it and just appoint a female conservative Judge.
Kavanaugh is toast. I suspect his theatrics and the current FBI investigation are both delay tactics to fire up the Republican base to preserve their Senate majority, and to force the Democrats to expend political capital in fighting Kavanaugh’s nomination.