Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: Dari
Fair or not, many here forget that the United States is not the only nation propping up Israel. There is also Germany, France, and Great Britain. All these nations owe the Jews considering their actions during WWII.
Perhaps Germany owes the Jews for their treatment during WWII, but how do you figure these other countries owe the Jews?
AFAIK, GB didn't kill Jews, France didn't kill Jews, (although their government may have rolled over and let the Germans take their country without much of a fight)
The West knew about the atrocities the Nazis were committing and did nothing. In addition to their own intelligence they were getting reports from those escaping the warzones. Even after the war nations like Great Britain sent Jews back to Germany because they simply didn't want them.
Originally posted by: Dari
Just as with slavery, younger Germans, Brits, French, and Americans question their allegiance to a nation whom they have little to do with AND that gives little in return. But it's an agreement that our fathers made and we're obligated to it. Nevertheless, as more and more peple start asking why we are obligated, I believe that fundamental questions will have to be answered. One is the security of Israel.
I don't know of any agreement that requires our government to funnel billions of US tax dollars into any sovereign nation, especially one that has a history of spying on us...or attacking our naval vessels.
These are gentlemens' agreements and, thus, are more implicit than explicit.
Originally posted by: Dari
The problem is made even more difficult considering our military adventurism in that region and the propping up of failed regimes.
Unless we want to guarantee Israel's security forever, we need to be more pragmatic towards the people of the ME and not just their rulers. Hopefully, the next President can twist the arms of the current leaders so that they are more answerable to their people. That should make it easier to let go of Israel.
After 60 years, the world should let Israel "sink or swim."
Of course, with all the US military support they've received over the years, once we pull all our support, the M.E. nations would probably resume their attacks on Israel, and the Israeli's would most likely light the nuclear candle...the one we provided to them...
Doubtful. Prosperous nations that trade, and are in good relations, with each other have a habit of not fighting each other. There are obviously exceptions. But, I believe, once the Palestinian issue has been resolved, all Arab nations will fall into line and have relations with the Jewish state.