Is 13 too younge for a belly ring?

[Blazin Trav]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
But, if she doesn't have the belly ring at 13, how will she ever be popular with the boys?
And, when she reaches 14 or 15, what will she have to do then to remain popular with the boys?

Add me to the list of people who think "absolutely not." The people who allow their children to do such things are the parents who are trying to be their kids best friends or the "cool parent." They are failing miserably at being parents.

I think that the boys who are more successful at finding girls who will "give it up" tend to know the types to target. And, just a guess here, it seems that belly rings would be one of those signals. They're probably not thinking consciously that "it's more sexy" or "it's more attractive." Or, maybe they are. But, at the deepest level, it probably signifies that the girl is growing up with parents who enforce a lower set of values.

Let me say that as a teacher, I'm not often surprised when I meet parents. That's not to say that there's a 100% correlation with parenting and the way children turn out, but it's a VERY strong correlation nonetheless.

Oh, and one last thing: If you're giving your daughter birth control pills when she's 13 years old, just in case... You've already admitted to failing as a parent.

:thumbsup: I agree completely.

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: SagaLore
13 - ears pierced.
16 - more than one earring/stud in each ear.
18 - belly button piereced.
21, or living on own - anything else pierced.

:thumbsup:

That's pretty close to our rules.

Just replace the 18 and over with "not while you live under my roof. Set an example for your siblings"

 

[BillyBatson]

YES that is WAY too young! it is nothing like the ears! yes it might be more common these days but it is sexual, it is there to enhance sexual appeal where as ears is more for decoration and something society is use to.
even 16 is too young i think, let her wait till she is 18 and get it herself! but even if you let her at 16, do NOT let her at 13! she prob can't even take care of it right and it will be infected and she will have a scar forever, there is a reason why people have to be 18 to get tats and piercings on their own because 13 is too young to make a decision that is smart for you in the long run!

FYI: i am 23, male, and have 4 tats and 3 piercings

 

[DannyLove]

I would wait until she is 16 or 17. I never ever want a daughter, hell, I never want kids period!

danny~!

 

[magomago]

only one other person brought up this question:

WHY.


Find that out.


I would personally say no. If she gets a belly button, she WILL want to show it off. She wn't get a belly button just so it isn't visible and no one knows about it... That MAY attract a different kind of crowd. Furthermore, atleast to me (and many others on ATOT) a belly button, whether that is how it is marketed or not, gives off the image of sex appeal.

Sit down, discuss it with her and most importantly find out why...because once you understand where she comes from it is a lot easier to make a better judgement, and a lot easier for her to understand where you are coming from

But personally...find out where she comes from so it is easier to lay down the law Just put an age limit, but don't restrict everything and be draconian....because once she goes to college at age 19 if her brain isn't mentally formed yet and she stil has all these random desires they will come out despite how hard you force them back

 

[Bryophyte]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: tfinch2
LOL, regardless if you say yes or no, she's going to get one.

no, most likely she won't. if my parents forbade me to get a piercing at 13 y/o i would NOT be getting one. end of story.

You sure do generalize a whole fvcking lot just based off your own personal lifestyle and experience.

and you don't?

stop finger pointing. ten fingers will come right back at you.

That was what I was thinking. It was his generalization that she would go out and do it whether or not he gave permission that started the whole argument.

 

[nakedfrog]

And you know, I'd be wary of any parlor that would provide that piercing to a girl that young, parents present or no.

 

[randay]

Tell her no then install a metal detector in your house.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
did you ask her why she wants it?

of course, she said she thinks they are cute. normal answer for a 13 year old.

 

[DaiShan]

Originally posted by: randay
Tell her no then install a FRICKEN HUGE MAGNET in your house.

Fixed :evil:

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: DaiShan

Originally posted by: randay
Tell her no then install a FRICKEN HUGE MAGNET in your house.

Fixed :evil:

also doubles as a way to gain extra change! when friends come over BAM! you got the change!

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
did you ask her why she wants it?

of course, she said she thinks they are cute. normal answer for a 13 year old.

"It is cute." -- (13 year old dictionary) I will make my friends jealous and they will revere me for having such a "mature" thing. I will attract attention from the "cute" boys. I will make more friends.

Actuallity. I will attract negative relationships based on superficiallity, and I will not have many genuine relationships till I am old and more battered by the world's negative relationships.

 

[imported_goku]

So if a belly ring is 'sexual', why is letting your daughter have that is sexual a problem? I don't see the problem with having one, what you should be worried more about is not your daughter being eye candy to guys and playing the game 'keep away', but for her to not to become a slut/whore. The question is, what do you define as a slut/whore?

 

[moshquerade]

so Citrix what is the verdict? is your daughter getting her navel pierced?

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: goku
So if a belly ring is 'sexual', why is letting your daughter have that is sexual a problem? I don't see the problem with having one, what you should be worried more about is not your daughter being eye candy to guys and playing the game 'keep away', but for her to not to become a slut/whore. The question is, what do you define as a slut/whore?

WTF are you trying to say... I can't make sense of it

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: goku
So if a belly ring is 'sexual', why is letting your daughter have that is sexual a problem? I don't see the problem with having one, what you should be worried more about is not your daughter being eye candy to guys and playing the game 'keep away', but for her to not to become a slut/whore. The question is, what do you define as a slut/whore?

so you think its ok for a 12 yr old to sexy? and is not part of her becominga slut not to dress like one?

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: goku
So if a belly ring is 'sexual', why is letting your daughter have that is sexual a problem? I don't see the problem with having one, what you should be worried more about is not your daughter being eye candy to guys and playing the game 'keep away', but for her to not to become a slut/whore. The question is, what do you define as a slut/whore?

You don't make any sense. But I'll reply to this nonsense any way.

When girls are seeking attention of that kind (sexual) at this age (13) then it leads down the road to what your saying is the real problem. Being overly sexually active. And by overly, I would say any sex before 18 is too much. But that is sort of a guy/daughter thing, nobody wants their daughter to be active until they're out of the house, and even then it brings chills. Men don't envision a son with the same cringing attitude, thats just the way things are.

I've noticed that guys won't understand this unless a) they have a sister, mainly a younger sister that they grew up protecting from things. Or until b) they have a daughter of their own. I have friends that say "I wouldn't mind that my daughter had a bf and dated at 15" but these friends are those that don't have a sister, or that (obviously) don't have a daughter.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
so Citrix what is the verdict? is your daughter getting her navel pierced?

I dont know yet. i have no doubt she would take care of it and keep it clean, she does a great job on her ears. as far as showing it off i dont think she will, she is pretty reserved and i truly belive she wants one because she wants it for her own personal wants. in no way what so ever do i belive she wants one to flaunt her sexuality or to get attention from boys. she doesnt dress up much and isnt like her younger sister who is your typical prissy girly girl. she is pretty much a jock and lives to play sports.

so the jury is still out. maybe ill wait until her 16th bday.

but i fail to see why most of the people in here equate a belly piercing to being a whore. i just cant make that connection.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: moshquerade
so Citrix what is the verdict? is your daughter getting her navel pierced?

I dont know yet. i have no doubt she would take care of it and keep it clean, she does a great job on her ears. as far as showing it off i dont think she will, she is pretty reserved and i truly belive she wants one because she wants it for her own personal wants. in no way what so ever do i belive she wants one to flaunt her sexuality or to get attention from boys. she doesnt dress up much and isnt like her younger sister who is your typical prissy girly girl. she is pretty much a jock and lives to play sports.

so the jury is still out. maybe ill wait until her 16th bday.

but i fail to see why most of the people in here equate a belly piercing to being a whore. i just cant make that connection.

i didn't say it would make her a whore. i did say it would make guys look at her more sexually.

and really now Citrix, you think if she gets it pierced she will just keep it to herself? she will show people... 'lots of people.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: moshquerade
so Citrix what is the verdict? is your daughter getting her navel pierced?

I dont know yet. i have no doubt she would take care of it and keep it clean, she does a great job on her ears. as far as showing it off i dont think she will, she is pretty reserved and i truly belive she wants one because she wants it for her own personal wants. in no way what so ever do i belive she wants one to flaunt her sexuality or to get attention from boys. she doesnt dress up much and isnt like her younger sister who is your typical prissy girly girl. she is pretty much a jock and lives to play sports.

so the jury is still out. maybe ill wait until her 16th bday.

but i fail to see why most of the people in here equate a belly piercing to being a whore. i just cant make that connection.

i didn't say it would make her a whore. i did say it would make guys look at her more sexually.

and really now Citrix, you think if she gets it pierced she will just keep it to herself? she will show people... 'lots of people.

Careful now Mosh, your messing with his "Daddy's little girl" image Every good dad knows their little girl couldn't have a sexual thought before their 21st birthday.

 

[jimbob200521]

13 is wayyyyy to young for a belly button ring. I would say around 16 would be a good cut-off age.

 

[imported_goku]

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: goku
So if a belly ring is 'sexual', why is letting your daughter have that is sexual a problem? I don't see the problem with having one, what you should be worried more about is not your daughter being eye candy to guys and playing the game 'keep away', but for her to not to become a slut/whore. The question is, what do you define as a slut/whore?

You don't make any sense. But I'll reply to this nonsense any way.

When girls are seeking attention of that kind (sexual) at this age (13) then it leads down the road to what your saying is the real problem. Being overly sexually active. And by overly, I would say any sex before 18 is too much. But that is sort of a guy/daughter thing, nobody wants their daughter to be active until they're out of the house, and even then it brings chills. Men don't envision a son with the same cringing attitude, thats just the way things are.

I've noticed that guys won't understand this unless a) they have a sister, mainly a younger sister that they grew up protecting from things. Or until b) they have a daughter of their own. I have friends that say "I wouldn't mind that my daughter had a bf and dated at 15" but these friends are those that don't have a sister, or that (obviously) don't have a daughter.

I'm sorry if the post doesn't appear to make sense, most posts I've made today have needed correction, instead I'll try to clarify it here. Just because a girl is looking for sexual attention, doesn't mean she will become a whore later. Fsck, she can be soliciting for all I care but if she isn't 'doing the deed' it shouldn't really matter imo. I wouldn't be surprised if you guys made a big deal about poping her cherry at 16. If the girl is inclined to be a slutty whore and 'loves men', then she will more than likely become one, why? Because it's likely because of YOUR genetics. Basically if your daughter doesn't become a slut now, she will be when shes in college, you're just delayin the enevitable.

Now, there is nothing to say that this girl doesn't want sexual attention, but it also doesn't say she does, it's completely up to her. I'll say it again, just because she is eye candy, it doesn't mean she will become a whore/slut. She can be eye candy for all she wants as she may infact like being a tease (when I was in HS, the girls that were worthwhile, more than 90% were simply teases) so it wouldn't matter anyways.

(You're daughter will be a whore not because of your parenting, but because of her genes. Thats my opinion on it anyways.)

Kids in my opinon (I'm sure this varies GREATLY) have their minds made up whether they realize it or not by the time they're 13. They're inclined to be what ever they will be for the rest of their lives and them developing into adults starts at that age. You can try all you want to stop them but the ones intent on being that way will simply not change.

 

[slsmnaz]

Those are some pretty convincing poll results.

 

[eakers]

belly button rings aren't even that sexual. I don't see how it is so tied to being sexual especially for a 13 year old girl.

In any case, chances are her body will reject it or it will get so infected she'll end up taking it out anyways. That is what happened to most of the girls I went to hs with got theirs done.

 

[Blazin Trav]

Originally posted by: eakers
belly button rings aren't even that sexual. I don't see how it is so tied to being sexual especially for a 13 year old girl.

In any case, chances are her body will reject it or it will get so infected she'll end up taking it out anyways. That is what happened to most of the girls I went to hs with got theirs done.

What else would be the purpose of a belly button ring?