Is 13 too younge for a belly ring?

[DaShen]

Yes, a belly ring is just eye candy for girls to show off to flaunt their navel at boys in a sexually aggravating way. Seriously, bad idea, unless you want your 13 year old daughter being chased by pre-pubescent boys.

Next thing you know she will be asking for other things pierced, too.

 

[Joemonkey]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

I've always thought that when my daughter is old enough to ask for something, and convince me it is a good idea, that's when I will do it. I do have some ground rules, like no tattoos before 17, but as far as piercing anything beyond the ears, she'll just have to convince me as to why she wants it. People ask why at 14mo she doesn't have her ears pierced, and i tell them it is because she hasn't asked us to get them pierced yet. Same with why she isn't baptized.

and you thought I wouldn't like that response?
It's a perfectly FINE response... the trick to it being that she "has to convince you" not just ask. That's a HUGE freaking difference. If my kid at 8 can "convince" me she should get her ears pierced then I'm sure my rules will change... will she convince me at 8? Doubtful, but I'll certainly give her a shot.

As far as how that relates to a belly button piercing at 13... sorry, no argument in the world, short of a hand written note from Jesus Christ would convince me that my daughter should have her belly button pierced.

Long story short, they will have to convince me of ANYTHING before I agree to it while they are on my dime and under my roof... I think thats resonable. When they become responsible adults, then they can make responsible decisions.

What if your daughter has a modeling contract at age 12 and a particular photo shoot calls for it? There's a lot of "what ifs" out there that make me think it is impossible to put a hard and fast age limitation on anything. I'm 28 and i'm still not a responsible adult...

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: tfinch2
LOL, regardless if you say yes or no, she's going to get one.

no, most likely she won't. if my parents forbade me to get a piercing at 13 y/o i would NOT be getting one. end of story.

You sure do generalize a whole fvcking lot just based off your own personal lifestyle and experience.

 

[Homerboy]

What if your daughter has a modeling contract at age 12 and a particular photo shoot calls for it? There's a lot of "what ifs" out there that make me think it is impossible to put a hard and fast age limitation on anything. I'm 28 and i'm still not a responsible adult...

There's extenuating circumstances for everything in life. You cross (or burn) those bridges when you get there. I didn't etch those rules into stone or tatoo them on her arm yet (she'd have to convince me for that tattoo anyways). I certainly think that's a good guideline to start with though.

I just hate the fact that kids are growing up fast nowadays and people actually use that for an excuse as to why Johnny did XYZ... it just fuels the fire. Kids should be kids while they are kids.

 

[Homerboy]

You sure do generalize a whole fvcking lot just based off your own personal lifestyle and experience.

Isn't that what people normally base their opinions/suggestions/recommendations on?

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

You sure do generalize a whole fvcking lot just based off your own personal lifestyle and experience.

Isn't that what people normally base their opinions/suggestions/recommendations on?

I meant that she thinks just because she didn't do something because her parents said no to that every teenager will.

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: tfinch2
LOL, regardless if you say yes or no, she's going to get one.

no, most likely she won't. if my parents forbade me to get a piercing at 13 y/o i would NOT be getting one. end of story.

You sure do generalize a whole fvcking lot just based off your own personal lifestyle and experience.

Ummmmm.... doesn't everyone do that. They contextualize things using their own experiences, and then project them on other people experiences. That is why older people with more experience usually have wiser suggestions and such.

 

[Vegitto]

Dude, any age is too young for a belly ring! :Q

 

[ZOOYUKA]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

What if your daughter has a modeling contract at age 12 and a particular photo shoot calls for it? There's a lot of "what ifs" out there that make me think it is impossible to put a hard and fast age limitation on anything. I'm 28 and i'm still not a responsible adult...

There's extenuating circumstances for everything in life. You cross (or burn) those bridges when you get there. I didn't etch those rules into stone or tatoo them on her arm yet (she'd have to convince me for that tattoo anyways). I certainly think that's a good guideline to start with though.

I just hate the fact that kids are growing up fast nowadays and people actually use that for an excuse as to why Johnny did XYZ... it just fuels the fire. Kids should be kids while they are kids.

All this about you being convinced is BS. You as a parent should have ideals and stick to them. You should not empower the child, by letting them influence your decisions. You should make decisions for your child based on what YOU feel is the right thing to do.

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: Vegitto
Dude, any age is too young for a belly ring! :Q

Agreed, except you can be too old too. <shudders>

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: tfinch2
LOL, regardless if you say yes or no, she's going to get one.

no, most likely she won't. if my parents forbade me to get a piercing at 13 y/o i would NOT be getting one. end of story.

You sure do generalize a whole fvcking lot just based off your own personal lifestyle and experience.

Ummmmm.... doesn't everyone do that. They contextualize things using their own experiences, and then project them on other people experiences. That is why older people with more experience usually have wiser suggestions and such.

Read my post above yours.

Just because a person does one thing, it doesn't make them right thinking that everyone else should and will do the same.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: Citrix
This has turned into a interesting converstation. I had no idea a belly ring is a gateway piercing to nipple rings, dressing like a slut and being a whore. I guess i should back up and actually say that getting her ears pierced at 10 was the real gateway to damnation.

Get over yourself mate.

You obviously have no problem with it, so get her the ring, put her on birth control, and get her out there.

Some of us don't agree with you allowing your daughter to 'sex herself up' when she's just turning 13, but ignore us, we're old fashioned & boring

& if you can't see the difference between an ear piercing & a belly-button ring (one which basically all women in society have, and which looks classy & pretty, and the other which has become synonomous with trashy chicks, alongside those lower back tats) then good luck with ya...at least she doesn't want a tattoo, but it sounds like you'd be fine with that too...

Someone thinks highly of themselves.

How so?

I'm just offering my point of view...which the vast majority of ATOT, an i'd be prepared to say, real life, would agree with...

But as i said, i'm a boring old fart who prefers my kids unfvcked & unpierced at age 13...:roll:

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Joemonkey

Originally posted by: Homerboy

I've always thought that when my daughter is old enough to ask for something, and convince me it is a good idea, that's when I will do it. I do have some ground rules, like no tattoos before 17, but as far as piercing anything beyond the ears, she'll just have to convince me as to why she wants it. People ask why at 14mo she doesn't have her ears pierced, and i tell them it is because she hasn't asked us to get them pierced yet. Same with why she isn't baptized.

and you thought I wouldn't like that response?
It's a perfectly FINE response... the trick to it being that she "has to convince you" not just ask. That's a HUGE freaking difference. If my kid at 8 can "convince" me she should get her ears pierced then I'm sure my rules will change... will she convince me at 8? Doubtful, but I'll certainly give her a shot.

As far as how that relates to a belly button piercing at 13... sorry, no argument in the world, short of a hand written note from Jesus Christ would convince me that my daughter should have her belly button pierced.

Long story short, they will have to convince me of ANYTHING before I agree to it while they are on my dime and under my roof... I think thats resonable. When they become responsible adults, then they can make responsible decisions.

What if your daughter has a modeling contract at age 12 and a particular photo shoot calls for it? There's a lot of "what ifs" out there that make me think it is impossible to put a hard and fast age limitation on anything. I'm 28 and i'm still not a responsible adult...

i doubt his daughter is going to get a modeling contract. if she was in modeling or such odds are she would have a belly ring. The OP does not seem the type to have his daughter in such stuff anyway.

The whole idea of a belly ring is sex appeal (that is how it is marketed). No 12 yr old girl should be worrying about if she is sexy or not. Today's kids are being marketed for more adult styles then ever.

Midwiff shirts, super short skirts, lowcut blouse's, etc. heck walk around a mall or something and you would be amazed.

there was a picture ofa birthday party (think britney spears sister). it was the girls 12th (or 13th) birthday. EVERY girl had either halter tops or midrifs. with very short skirts low on the hips. it was rather sickning.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: Vegitto
Dude, any age is too young for a belly ring! :Q

Agreed, except you can be too old too. <shudders>

you can never to be old! GILF ftw!

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: Citrix
This has turned into a interesting converstation. I had no idea a belly ring is a gateway piercing to nipple rings, dressing like a slut and being a whore. I guess i should back up and actually say that getting her ears pierced at 10 was the real gateway to damnation.

Get over yourself mate.

You obviously have no problem with it, so get her the ring, put her on birth control, and get her out there.

Some of us don't agree with you allowing your daughter to 'sex herself up' when she's just turning 13, but ignore us, we're old fashioned & boring

& if you can't see the difference between an ear piercing & a belly-button ring (one which basically all women in society have, and which looks classy & pretty, and the other which has become synonomous with trashy chicks, alongside those lower back tats) then good luck with ya...at least she doesn't want a tattoo, but it sounds like you'd be fine with that too...

Someone thinks highly of themselves.

How so?

I'm just offering my point of view...which the vast majority of ATOT, an i'd be prepared to be, real life, would agree with...

But as i said, i'm a boring old fart who prefers my kids unfvcked & unpierced at age 13...:roll:

Totally agree with you dug777

Citrix,

Your daughter may like the attention she gets from getting a navel ring and showing it off by exposing her midriff, but it will all be negative attention, because once a guy sees that they will not care about her personality or intelligence or any other endearing qualities I am sure your daughter has. Explain to her, you want people guys and girls to be attracted to your daughter for who she is not what she wears or what the skin she shows off.

All the negative attention may even change her personality to being one of the flirty, non-thinking girls.

She will be put into a group of flirty girls that all the guys want, but not for the right reason. She may not like you if you refuse, but if you explain to her why you refused, eventually when she thinks about it, or when she is older, she will thank you for looking out for her.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Joemonkey

Originally posted by: Homerboy

I've always thought that when my daughter is old enough to ask for something, and convince me it is a good idea, that's when I will do it. I do have some ground rules, like no tattoos before 17, but as far as piercing anything beyond the ears, she'll just have to convince me as to why she wants it. People ask why at 14mo she doesn't have her ears pierced, and i tell them it is because she hasn't asked us to get them pierced yet. Same with why she isn't baptized.

and you thought I wouldn't like that response?
It's a perfectly FINE response... the trick to it being that she "has to convince you" not just ask. That's a HUGE freaking difference. If my kid at 8 can "convince" me she should get her ears pierced then I'm sure my rules will change... will she convince me at 8? Doubtful, but I'll certainly give her a shot.

As far as how that relates to a belly button piercing at 13... sorry, no argument in the world, short of a hand written note from Jesus Christ would convince me that my daughter should have her belly button pierced.

Long story short, they will have to convince me of ANYTHING before I agree to it while they are on my dime and under my roof... I think thats resonable. When they become responsible adults, then they can make responsible decisions.

What if your daughter has a modeling contract at age 12 and a particular photo shoot calls for it? There's a lot of "what ifs" out there that make me think it is impossible to put a hard and fast age limitation on anything. I'm 28 and i'm still not a responsible adult...

i doubt his daughter is going to get a modeling contract. if she was in modeling or such odds are she would have a belly ring. The OP does not seem the type to have his daughter in such stuff anyway.

The whole idea of a belly ring is sex appeal (that is how it is marketed). No 12 yr old girl should be worrying about if she is sexy or not. Today's kids are being marketed for more adult styles then ever.

Midwiff shirts, super short skirts, lowcut blouse's, etc. heck walk around a mall or something and you would be amazed.

there was a picture ofa birthday party (think britney spears sister). it was the girls 12th (or 13th) birthday. EVERY girl had either halter tops or midrifs. with very short skirts low on the hips. it was rather sickning.

i blaim MTV

 

[Ramma2]

Just forward her a bunch of pics of belly rings gone bad, infections etc.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: tfinch2
LOL, regardless if you say yes or no, she's going to get one.

no, most likely she won't. if my parents forbade me to get a piercing at 13 y/o i would NOT be getting one. end of story.

You sure do generalize a whole fvcking lot just based off your own personal lifestyle and experience.

and you don't?

stop finger pointing. ten fingers will come right back at you.

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Joemonkey

Originally posted by: Homerboy

I've always thought that when my daughter is old enough to ask for something, and convince me it is a good idea, that's when I will do it. I do have some ground rules, like no tattoos before 17, but as far as piercing anything beyond the ears, she'll just have to convince me as to why she wants it. People ask why at 14mo she doesn't have her ears pierced, and i tell them it is because she hasn't asked us to get them pierced yet. Same with why she isn't baptized.

and you thought I wouldn't like that response?
It's a perfectly FINE response... the trick to it being that she "has to convince you" not just ask. That's a HUGE freaking difference. If my kid at 8 can "convince" me she should get her ears pierced then I'm sure my rules will change... will she convince me at 8? Doubtful, but I'll certainly give her a shot.

As far as how that relates to a belly button piercing at 13... sorry, no argument in the world, short of a hand written note from Jesus Christ would convince me that my daughter should have her belly button pierced.

Long story short, they will have to convince me of ANYTHING before I agree to it while they are on my dime and under my roof... I think thats resonable. When they become responsible adults, then they can make responsible decisions.

What if your daughter has a modeling contract at age 12 and a particular photo shoot calls for it? There's a lot of "what ifs" out there that make me think it is impossible to put a hard and fast age limitation on anything. I'm 28 and i'm still not a responsible adult...

i doubt his daughter is going to get a modeling contract. if she was in modeling or such odds are she would have a belly ring. The OP does not seem the type to have his daughter in such stuff anyway.

The whole idea of a belly ring is sex appeal (that is how it is marketed). No 12 yr old girl should be worrying about if she is sexy or not. Today's kids are being marketed for more adult styles then ever.

Midwiff shirts, super short skirts, lowcut blouse's, etc. heck walk around a mall or something and you would be amazed.

there was a picture ofa birthday party (think britney spears sister). it was the girls 12th (or 13th) birthday. EVERY girl had either halter tops or midrifs. with very short skirts low on the hips. it was rather sickning.

i blaim MTV

I blame the marketing department in the entertainment industry, but MTV works too.

edit: halter tops are sexy, but NOT on a 12 or 13 year old. Gah.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: tfinch2
LOL, regardless if you say yes or no, she's going to get one.

no, most likely she won't. if my parents forbade me to get a piercing at 13 y/o i would NOT be getting one. end of story.

You sure do generalize a whole fvcking lot just based off your own personal lifestyle and experience.

and you don't?

stop finger pointing. ten fingers will come right back at you.

wouldnt 9 come back? i mean he is pointing one right? unless he has 11 fingers.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Hell no, not a 13yo

Belly button ring = Open for business sign

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: tfinch2
LOL, regardless if you say yes or no, she's going to get one.

no, most likely she won't. if my parents forbade me to get a piercing at 13 y/o i would NOT be getting one. end of story.

You sure do generalize a whole fvcking lot just based off your own personal lifestyle and experience.

and you don't?

stop finger pointing. nine fingers will come right back at you.

fixed.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: tfinch2
LOL, regardless if you say yes or no, she's going to get one.

no, most likely she won't. if my parents forbade me to get a piercing at 13 y/o i would NOT be getting one. end of story.

You sure do generalize a whole fvcking lot just based off your own personal lifestyle and experience.

and you don't?

stop finger pointing. ten fingers will come right back at you.

wouldnt 9 come back? i mean he is pointing one right? unless he has 11 fingers.

damn people always trying to do the math.

i meant 10 people will find fault with him for the same reason he found fault with someone else.

 

[DrPizza]

But, if she doesn't have the belly ring at 13, how will she ever be popular with the boys?
And, when she reaches 14 or 15, what will she have to do then to remain popular with the boys?

Add me to the list of people who think "absolutely not." The people who allow their children to do such things are the parents who are trying to be their kids best friends or the "cool parent." They are failing miserably at being parents.

I think that the boys who are more successful at finding girls who will "give it up" tend to know the types to target. And, just a guess here, it seems that belly rings would be one of those signals. They're probably not thinking consciously that "it's more sexy" or "it's more attractive." Or, maybe they are. But, at the deepest level, it probably signifies that the girl is growing up with parents who enforce a lower set of values.

Let me say that as a teacher, I'm not often surprised when I meet parents. That's not to say that there's a 100% correlation with parenting and the way children turn out, but it's a VERY strong correlation nonetheless.

Oh, and one last thing: If you're giving your daughter birth control pills when she's 13 years old, just in case... You've already admitted to failing as a parent.

 

[Deleted member 4644]

Originally posted by: Nebor
No, don't pay attention to the uber conservatives of ATOT. You'll go a lot further being the "cool" dad than the mean dad.

More important than a belly button ring is BIRTH CONTROL. In a year or two, you and your wife should start asking her every month if she wants to start on the pill. That's responsible parenting.

You are a maniac retard. Condoms maybe, but the pill at 14? Those hormones have side effect you know.