iOS 5 to copy Android, Touchwiz?

[Doboji]

Now the real question is this: What features does the iPhone software lack that android software has?

Only one thing I can think of right now: built in turn by turn directions.

I think one would first need to define the comparison is it:

iOS Stock vs Android Stock?
or
iOS Jailbroken vs Android Jailbroken?
or
Both vs Both

At the end of the day it becomes a matter of personal preference... I prefer the WAY that the Android UI works... I like the menu styles... I like the homescreen styles.. I like the ability to change shit up constantly.

Beyond that it comes down to:
Widgets
Turn by Turn Navigation
Bigger Screens
SD Card slots
Removeable Battery

You also spend less money owning an Android Device than an iOS device... less free apps more expensive apps... stupid HD apps (I have an iPad 2)

But one thing I think Apple Fanbois and Android Fanbois can all agree on now with these announcements is that this crying about copying needs to stop. Everyone is copying everyone else... it's a fucking cell phone not a painting. Shut up and innovate.

 

[Deeko]

If you don't think that companies stealing UI elements from each other is a good thing, you are an idiot.

Agree - they all do it, and its really for the best in the end.

 

[boomhower]

Looks like a nice upgrade. Now just for them to release the iPhone 5 or 4S or whatever they are going to call it so I can tell Sprint to pound sand.

 

[MrX8503]

I see nothing wrong with copying ideas, every company does it. I just think fans get a bigger kick outta it cause it's apple.

Apple hasn't ever really been the first to do anything. FaceTime or Copy/Paste? Apple wasn't first, but they implemented it the best. Alot of things from Android has a beta feel to it.

Polish and something that works right, that's what matters.

Edit: Meant to say that polish/working right is what matters to me.

 

[Anubis]

I see nothing wrong with copying ideas, every company does it. I just think fans get a bigger kick outta it cause it's apple.

Apple hasn't ever really been the first to do anything. FaceTime or Copy/Paste? Apple wasn't first, but they implemented it the best. Alot of things from Android has a beta feel to it.

Polish and something that works right, that's what matters.

i agree with this, the copy and paste thing is slightly different because they acted like they invented it

 

[SunnyD]

Removeable Battery

Ah yeah, good point. I completely forgot about that one too. It's possibly MORE important imho than removable storage.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Wow, iMessage really neutralises BBM. Ouch.

 

[Doboji]

I see nothing wrong with copying ideas, every company does it. I just think fans get a bigger kick outta it cause it's apple.

Apple hasn't ever really been the first to do anything. FaceTime or Copy/Paste? Apple wasn't first, but they implemented it the best. Alot of things from Android has a beta feel to it.

Polish and something that works right, that's what matters.

I don't either... especially when talking about technology. Features WILL be copied inevitably. But don't you think it's pretty lame that like a month ago we were talking about how Apple was suing samsung for copying ideas... and now here we are talking about how Apple is being "Touchwizish"?

 

[YoungGun21]

People still use messaging services like that? Everyone I know just sends texts.

 

[SunnyD]

People still use messaging services like that? Everyone I know just sends texts.

Corporate environments require this sort of secure encrypted point-to-point messaging still.

 

[xSauronx]

But one thing I think Apple Fanbois and Android Fanbois can all agree on now with these announcements is that this crying about copying needs to stop. Everyone is copying everyone else... it's a fucking cell phone not a painting. Shut up and innovate.

its done with operating systems and other software, i dont see the big deal. i *wish* microsoft would copy someone and make multiple virtual desktops an integrated part of their os :-/

 

[MrX8503]

I don't either... especially when talking about technology. Features WILL be copied inevitably. But don't you think it's pretty lame that like a month ago we were talking about how Apple was suing samsung for copying ideas... and now here we are talking about how Apple is being "Touchwizish"?

Yeah I agree it's lame. I think Apple pretty much solved all my gripes with iOS except for widgets and multitasking.

iMessage was a welcome addition, I've been searching for such an app
and now I can ditch all the crappy 3rd party ones.

 

[Dulanic]

Corporate environments require this sort of secure encrypted point-to-point messaging still.

Don't most just have exchange and as such push emails? Seems as fast but with additional options. At least from my current corporate experience.

 

[alyarb]

i am excited about the notifications as well as iMessage. hopefully AIM, google, facebook and other chat networks are integrated so I can have comprehensive chat logs on my phone as well as weening myself away from meebo. meebo is rough around the edges and I am forced to use a pre-retina build to avoid the adbar. besides that, I like the iphone even though I do not care for apple in general. I have the ui exactly how I like it, the apps I need as well as the browser are plenty adequate and I am familiar enough with the file system that SSH and http transfers make removable media unnecessary. I don't play games and I'm not starving for more cpu or ram. but god does text look good.



I really hate the "who innovates more" type debates. they are so meaningless. I think by now people have become sufficiently comfortable with whichever platform/ecosystem they originally chose, such that over time the increasing reluctance of users to migrate between android and iOS will be mitigated by the convergence of UI fundamentals, similar to the UI convergence of OS X and NT 5/6.

 

[cheezy321]

+



+

Selection of devices with specifications and styling of user's choice.
Cutting edge hardware technology (even if it is only relevant for so long in this market)
Multiple market/sources of applications

Oh, and let's not forget... REMOVABLE (upgradeable) STORAGE (SD card).



Guess you didn't read what pm wrote.

Specifically said software in my post. Nothing about hardware. We already know android has all the selections and specifications one could ever want in a phone. You android users have made everyone well aware of that, time and time again

Some of you may think the ability to create a widget that can turn off power, bluetooth, wifi, etc quicker may be a feature. I consider that manually fixing a bug. That bug being the crappy battery life associated with android software.

 

[WelshBloke]

I'm sorry, you don't seem to understand that I've used Google Navigation for at least a year and it is basic beyond belief. It is inferior like a Corolla is inferior to a Ferrari. Simple. Does this go over your head?

I've used TomTom, CoPilot, Route66 and Google Nav.

I'd say that Google Nav does a good job of competing with the others, in some areas it does better (if i have to search for a business by name it usually gives me better results than the others).

I'd be nice if you could expand on why you think its inferior and basic beyond belief.

I'd not be without an offline nav app on my phone, but also I find myself using google nav about 80% of the time. It just does a lot of stuff better.

 

[zerocool84]

Specifically said software in my post. Nothing about hardware. We already know android has all the selections and specifications one could ever want in a phone. You android users have made everyone well aware of that, time and time again

Some of you may think the ability to create a widget that can turn off power, bluetooth, wifi, etc quicker may be a feature. I consider that manually fixing a bug. That bug being the crappy battery life associated with android software.

I guess Android phones that have good battery life are just made up by phandroids because according to you there are none. Making your smartphone life easier by not having to dig into settings to turn off basic things off all the time is bad thing? I guess when you don't have the option it's a bad thing to you.

 

[QueBert]

I like Google Music. No need to drag and drop anything, I just take all my music with me. :awe:

One of Android's biggest advantages is not being tied down to something like iTunes. You have easier control over your own media.

I could do that with numerous programs on my iPhone, but it results in data usage and I could have easily went over my monthly cap. With an iPhone you don't even have to use iTunes, you can have them activated in the store. Then you have every option in the world to sync your music. To say Android has easier control is pretty crazy, it doesn't even have smart playlist support, Doubletwist adds it, but it's pretty damn hokey IMHO.

 

[WelshBloke]

I could do that with numerous programs on my iPhone, but it results in data usage and I could have easily went over my monthly cap. With an iPhone you don't even have to use iTunes, you can have them activated in the store. Then you have every option in the world to sync your music. To say Android has easier control is pretty crazy, it doesn't even have smart playlist support, Doubletwist adds it, but it's pretty damn hokey IMHO.

So one of the advantages of an iPhone is you don't have to use iTunes.

 

[poofyhairguy]

Some of you may think the ability to create a widget that can turn off power, bluetooth, wifi, etc quicker may be a feature. I consider that manually fixing a bug. That bug being the crappy battery life associated with android software.

Um, I use SBSettings toggles on my iPhone all the time. It is a convenient way to turn on or off wifi, bluetooth, etc. without having to dig through menus. It is one of my favorite benefits of jailbreaking the phone.

 

[BoberFett]

About time. It was clear from Day 1 Google had the right method with the pull-down notification bar. It was only a matter of time before Apple adopted it. Good for iOS users!

By this time next year, Apple fans will be claiming Android copied it from Apple.

 

[cheezy321]

I guess Android phones that have good battery life are just made up by phandroids because according to you there are none. Making your smartphone life easier by not having to dig into settings to turn off basic things off all the time is bad thing? I guess when you don't have the option it's a bad thing to you.

Sure its an option. I do have that option on the iphone as well. I have had zero need for it.

Its more about plugging a hole in the ship than adding a new sail to make the ship faster. Is that a feature? That's pretty debatable.

 

[zerocool84]

Sure its an option. I do have that option on the iphone as well. I have had zero need for it.

Its more about plugging a hole in the ship than adding a new sail to make the ship faster. Is that a feature? That's pretty debatable.

Plugging a hole in what sinking ship? How is it not a feature? Helping you omit steps to get to things is always a feature. Like said, for some reason you think there are no Android phones with good battery life. All the iPhones didn't have good battery life until the 4 last year. The ones before just had average battery life. You're gonna think what you're gonna think anyways so it doesn't matter.

 

[Anubis]

Specifically said software in my post. Nothing about hardware. We already know android has all the selections and specifications one could ever want in a phone. You android users have made everyone well aware of that, time and time again

Some of you may think the ability to create a widget that can turn off power, bluetooth, wifi, etc quicker may be a feature. I consider that manually fixing a bug. That bug being the crappy battery life associated with android software.

other then the craptacular 4g battery life the majority of 3g android devices are just fine on battery life

 

[akugami]

Wow, iMessage really neutralises BBM. Ouch.

I haven't had time to fully read about all the new features. I skimmed through most of it. My first thought on iMessage is if Apple was smart, release it for Blackberrys, Windows phone 7, and Android. Make it cross compatible. Assuming there are no major kinks and they get it to work smoothly (yeah right), this would pretty much kill a major reason for owning Blackberrys. Same thing with Facetime.

This is similar to how Microsoft releases Office on the MacOS (where desktop publishing and content creation still is a pretty big market) to keep everyone locked into their Office suite.

other then the craptacular 4g battery life the majority of 3g android devices are just fine on battery life

This will get better. When 3G first hit it was notoriously bad from a battery standpoint. As the 4G chipsets mature it will improve battery life. Already there are rumblings of improved chipsets that draw a lot less power.

By this time next year, Apple fans will be claiming Android copied it from Apple.

What was the point of this post? Seriously. It does nothing for the conversation.