Invasion repelled.

[SlowSpyder]

What Happened:

What Conservatives think happened:

You didn't click on the video I posted that shows what really did happen with the caravan. The leftist media has told you how to feel and given you a few select pics to run with, to create the narrative. Hook, line, and sinker.

 

[fskimospy]

Previous presidents and congresses did nothing to stop the problem of illegal immigration, or at least didn't do enough. Not near enough. So today we have millions of illegal immigrants in our country. Many of them are decent people and probably deserve a path to citizenship. Many should be loaded up on a catapult and fired back across the border.

Separating children from families? Obama did that too. Trump simply expanded it. I don't know about you, but I'm not big on sex trafficking. Many kids are sent here without their parents, guess what happens when they're alone with strangers trying to illegally smuggle them here. Again, glad Trump took decisive action even if it hurt your little feelings. Just think, if they didn't come here illegally then they would have never been separated. Hmmmm....

Your last paragraph, well, that's more of a reflection on you than me. Keep fighting the good fight.

Wow, you are really losing it. You’re basically just repeating every lie Trump has made about his border policies verbatim. Do you think we don’t know better?

Since the midterms you have become more and more radicalized as the losses mount. I have a feeling the meltdown is going to be epic over the next year or two.

 

[Jhhnn]

Previous presidents and congresses did nothing to stop the problem of illegal immigration, or at least didn't do enough. Not near enough. So today we have millions of illegal immigrants in our country. Many of them are decent people and probably deserve a path to citizenship. Many should be loaded up on a catapult and fired back across the border.

Separating children from families? Obama did that too. Trump simply expanded it. I don't know about you, but I'm not big on sex trafficking. Many kids are sent here without their parents, guess what happens when they're alone with strangers trying to illegally smuggle them here. Again, glad Trump took decisive action even if it hurt your little feelings. Just think, if they didn't come here illegally then they would have never been separated. Hmmmm....

Your last paragraph, well, that's more of a reflection on you than me. Keep fighting the good fight.

Yeh, you're so concerned for those kids. Leaving them camped out in Tijuana is probably the best thing for 'em, huh?

 

[Victorian Gray]

You proposed options that are less effective in my opinion. Trump campaigned on the wall, it is what America voted for, it is what we'd like to see. It will stand after Trump's term(s). We can build roads that transverse America, we can dam the Colorado river, we can build a wall.

Hey troll. Look at the last issue in particular



https://news.gallup.com/poll/235775/americans-oppose-border-walls-favor-dealing-daca.aspx

btw, what's your wall gonna do about this?

Homeland Security: More than 600,000 foreigners overstayed U.S. visas in 2017

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/08/07/dhs-foreigners-overstayed-visas-2017/924316002/

 

[cytg111]

Previous presidents and congresses did nothing to stop the problem of illegal immigration, or at least didn't do enough. Not near enough. So today we have millions of illegal immigrants in our country. Many of them are decent people and probably deserve a path to citizenship. Many should be loaded up on a catapult and fired back across the border.

Separating children from families? Obama did that too. Trump simply expanded it. I don't know about you, but I'm not big on sex trafficking. Many kids are sent here without their parents, guess what happens when they're alone with strangers trying to illegally smuggle them here. Again, glad Trump took decisive action even if it hurt your little feelings. Just think, if they didn't come here illegally then they would have never been separated. Hmmmm....

Your last paragraph, well, that's more of a reflection on you than me. Keep fighting the good fight.

Simply? Child molestation?.... So... In your opinion, Trump is saving these children, by separating them, saving them from being whored out on the streets? - In fact when you think about it, this was Obama policy, I mean until Trump simply expanded on it and put a stop to it. Obama was pro whoring out children and trafficking. Did I get that (alt)right Slow?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Hey just read that Chuckie Schumer offered a compromise for 1.6 billion for the Wall. Apparently Schumer wants to make nice with McConnell.

 

[Jhhnn]

Hey just read that Chuckie Schumer offered a compromise for 1.6 billion for the Wall. Apparently Schumer wants to make nice with McConnell.

He made a counter offer to McConnell's $5B. When the new HOR is seated, they'll offer bumpkus.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

He made a counter offer to McConnell's $5B. When the new HOR is seated, they'll offer bumpkus.

Chuck is the Chamberlain of politicians. If Dems take the Senate one day he shouldn't be running things.

 

[blackangst1]

After a performance like that isn’t the smart move to oppose the next wall idea?

A border perimeter works, if done correctly. In our case, the original wall didnt do much except make illegal entry go somewhere else. Thats why a COMPLETE wall should be built. If it doesnt seal the border, dont bother. Thats not all though. We need to tighten up laws indie our borders. Strengthoning E-Verify is a great first step.

Citing: https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...-fence-israel-cut-illegal-immigration-99-per/

Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., echoed the idea during a Feb. 3 CNN interview, claiming that a border fence in Israel has drastically cut illegal immigration along its southern border.

"Israel ... had a real problem with illegal immigrants coming in from the southern border, about 16,000 in one year. In two years, they constructed 143-mile fence, about $2.9 million per mile, and it cut that illegal immigration rate from about 16,000 to I think 18. Cut it by 99 percent," Johnson said.

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Johnson said Israel cut its illegal immigration rate by "99 percent" by constructing a 143-mile fence along its southern border.

Israeli government data support Johnson’s statement. However, experts say the fence alone is not responsible for the dramatic decrease in illegal immigration, policies have also deterred illegal border crossings. Border security experts also caution about comparing Israel and the United States’ southern borders -- the U.S.-Mexico border is much longer than the Israel-Egypt border, terrain conditions are different and more agents would be needed to monitor the U.S. border.

Johnson’s statement is accurate, but needs additional information. We rate it Mostly True.

TL;DR
Border barriers DO work if done correctly.

 

[blackangst1]

Simply? Child molestation?.... So... In your opinion, Trump is saving these children, by separating them, saving them from being whored out on the streets? - In fact when you think about it, this was Obama policy, I mean until Trump simply expanded on it and put a stop to it. Obama was pro whoring out children and trafficking. Did I get that (alt)right Slow?

Children and parents havent been separated in 6 months. Old news is old.

 

[Alpha One Seven]

Oh no. It's the boogeyman!

Guess what? The refugee process has vetting.

Yep, that's the process they are going through now.

 

[Alpha One Seven]

Children and parents havent been separated in 6 months. Old news is old.

Which is kind of silly, since any citizen that commits a crime using their children, the first thing CPS does is take the kids away for their own safety.

 

[DrDoug]

For those of us who have a brain and know how to use it, if you exercise some thought it's pretty damned easy to get an idea of how bad it is in their country that they would feel the need to flee it. They would rather travel over a thousand miles and deal with all of the shit that is aimed at them by a conservative-controlled American government and its base than stay at home. That's some serious suckage down there, that's for sure. As an aside, I saw that conservative mouthpiece Erick Erickson was calling for helicopter rides in South America if necessary to force some good ol' capitalism on their people. How about we set up an exchange program; for every immigrant that we take in from South America, we ship a conservative nutjob like Erickson down there so they can fulfill their dream of bringing capitalism to the people who live there?

Personally, I think this sounds very reasonable.

 

[Viper1j]

Good, that keeps some of the illegals out is what you are saying. As I said, it will stop a lot of the low hanging fruit but now solve the problem. I don't want Mexico's refugees that are going to be societal parasites. Maybe Mexico should work on being great in stead of being run by cartels...

Are you going to build your precious wall tall enough to stop air traffic? Or only tall enough to stop hang gliders? Don't forget, you also have to build your wall at least 100 feet deep, in order to prevent tunnels.

Go ahead, spend your money, I'll continue to cook my books to that you don't see a penny of mine. Besides, I'll pull up a lawn chair, set a case of beer next to it, and laugh at you, as you try to get cement to dry in the middle of the Rio Grande River.

 

[fskimospy]

A border perimeter works, if done correctly. In our case, the original wall didnt do much except make illegal entry go somewhere else. Thats why a COMPLETE wall should be built. If it doesnt seal the border, dont bother. Thats not all though. We need to tighten up laws indie our borders. Strengthoning E-Verify is a great first step.

Citing: https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...-fence-israel-cut-illegal-immigration-99-per/

TL;DR
Border barriers DO work if done correctly.

A complete wall can never be built considering the terrain on the border. It is 100% impossible. Imagine the disaster of building a wall on much of the Rio Grande, for example. Are we building it in the middle of the river, destroying the river’s utility? Are we building it on our side, denying ourselves access? What?

Attempting to compare a 3,000 mile border with Israel’s border with the Palestinians as if they are even remotely the same thing is not living in reality.

 

[Viper1j]

A complete wall can never be built considering the terrain on the border. It is 100% impossible. Imagine the disaster of building a wall on much of the Rio Grande, for example. Are we building it in the middle of the river, destroying the river’s utility? Are we building it on our side, denying ourselves access? What?

Attempting to compare a 3,000 mile border with Israel’s border with the Palestinians as if they are even remotely the same thing is not living in reality.

One thing that is not factored into the cost of the precious wall, is that much of that land is on PRIVATE PROPERTY!

The best thing that could happen to someone, would be for Donny to get his way, and build that precious wall. I'm thinking somewhere around $2 billion. That's what it's going to cost to buy my little 2 acre plot, that just happens to be right in the path of your precious wall.

 

[zinfamous]

It is simply because Trump campaigned on it, so the left doesn't think at all, they just react and say it is bad. It is the partisan world we live in today.

yes, this is clearly how a smart person would interpret the issues.

...wtf is wrong with your brain?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

The best thing that could happen to someone, would be for Donny to get his way, and build that precious wall. I'm thinking somewhere around $2 billion. That's what it's going to cost to buy my little 2 acre plot,

That's not how it works. The government takes your land and pays you pennies on the dollar. You have no say, well you could spend your next ten years income on lawyers and lose, so pick one.

 

[SlowSpyder]

A complete wall can never be built considering the terrain on the border. It is 100% impossible. Imagine the disaster of building a wall on much of the Rio Grande, for example. Are we building it in the middle of the river, destroying the river’s utility? Are we building it on our side, denying ourselves access? What?

Attempting to compare a 3,000 mile border with Israel’s border with the Palestinians as if they are even remotely the same thing is not living in reality.

Did you know that we have strips of concrete that crisscross the entire country, much further than 3000 miles through varying terrain? We call them roads. Hell, the Chinese were able to build a longer wall without power tools. Time for a Great Wall of America.

 

[ivwshane]

Did you know that we have strips of concrete that crisscross the entire country, much further than 3000 miles through varying terrain? We call them roads. Hell, the Chinese were able to build a longer wall without power tools. Time for a Great Wall of America.

I'm curious as to how deep your knowledge of history is; how well did that wall work out?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Did you know that we have strips of concrete that crisscross the entire country, much further than 3000 miles through varying terrain? We call them roads. Hell, the Chinese were able to build a longer wall without power tools. Time for a Great Wall of America.

Yeah and none of them can be crossed! Think of the chickens! I suppose we could build a wall over obstacles to things can move under them like rivers, roads and *cough* people.

 

[Homerboy]

Building a wall directly benefits American citizens, and does so without taking away their work ethic and training them to rely on the government and to vote for the party that promises more free stuff. Sounds like a great use of money given how bloated our social spending and military budgets are.

I love the phrase "free stuff". So people wanting gov;t provided healthcare or education is something "free". But people wanting a gov't provided wall isn't considered something "free"?
Which do you think will "directly benefit American citizens" more? A wall, or healthcare/education? In your answer, please state supporting arguments and reasoning.

 

[SlowSpyder]

I'm curious as to how deep your knowledge of history is; how well did that wall work out?

Given the amount of time they spent constructing it, not abandoning the idea, I'd say they saw plenty of value in it.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Given the amount of time they spent constructing it, not abandoning the idea, I'd say they saw plenty of value in it.

Il Douche talks about removing subsidies for GM. Maybe his highness can force those workers to build the wall for him. It would be employment and an EO should do the trick /s.

 

[SlowSpyder]

I love the phrase "free stuff". So people wanting gov;t provided healthcare or education is something "free". But people wanting a gov't provided wall isn't considered something "free"?
Which do you think will "directly benefit American citizens" more? A wall, or healthcare/education? In your answer, please state supporting arguments and reasoning.

The wall will help more. Education is available, scholarships are everywhere, financing is available... simply put, anyone that wants an education has plenty of inroads to that. In today's world the left has created a narrative that if you have to work for something then it needs to be made easier, which is their retarded way of looking at it, but let's not pretend anyone that wants to put in just an ounce of effort cannot get educated if that is what they want. Healthcare is a little more complicated, while an emergency room won't turn anyone away, some treatments and options aren't available if one doesn't have the means or the right insurance. In stead of the government socializing care, I think getting our costs back down to a realistic realm would be a much better fix. Getting rid of ambulance chasers and some level of regulation can help there. The wall will help all Americans, create jobs and preserve many other jobs for citizens, will make it harder for people to come unvetted into our country. The wall will likely pay for itself many times over.