It's just my opinion that most people can "get by" with an 8 core processor.
Just think about the hundreds of millions of office workers doing emails and Word documents and similar light computer work. The concept that they need more than even 4 cores is laughable.
Intel said:We take our embargo agreements seriously. We are aware of a retailer selling unreleased products and are following up as appropriate.
Intel said:We cannot comment on particular actions taken by retailers. We have ongoing discussions with partners which are confidential as part of our policy. We take our embargo agreements seriously and are following up as appropriate.
Intel said:The sales embargo for 11th Gen Desktop processors (Rocket Lake S) is March 30, 2021 at 6 a.m. PT / 9 a.m. ET.
Fine. It's just my opinion that most people can "get by" with an 8 core processor. You think that's an unreasonable statement I get it. I won't mention it further. I could back up my statement but I didn't think it that outlandish to require evidence.
If you think most people need 12 or 16 or 32 cores then that is your opinion. We shall agree to disagree.
Somebody messed up on this launch. Intel's statement regarding early sale of RKL-S inventory:
edit: wrong thread
So, there are really new processors out there? Those early benchmarks were really accurate and RKL isn't much better than Zen 3?
Given the big ST, 4-thread, and MT clockspeed differences between the 11700K and the 11900K, I expect the latter is a binned part that will be available in low quantities and will probably still sell out given the voracious appetite for gaming PCs right now.
Were the ST, 4t, nt speeds for the 11700K and 11900K posted in the specs on the Mindfactory site? I see they are pulled down and somehow missed this. Can somebody post those specs? I am very interested to see them!
Rocket Lake - videocardz.com | 11700 | 11700k | 11900 | 11900k | 11700T | 11900T |
Thermal Velocity Boost 1 core | No | No | 5.2 | 5.3 | No | No |
Thermal Velocity Boost 3.0 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes |
Intel TBMT3 Frequency | 4.9 | 5 | 5.1 | 5.2 | 4.6 | 4.9 |
1 turbo | 4.9 | 5 | 5.2 | 5.3 | 4.6 | 4.9 |
2 turbo | 4.9 | 5 | 5.2 | 5.3 | 4.6 | 4.9 |
4 turbo | 4.7 | 4.9 | 5 | 5.1 | 4.3 | 4.6 |
6 turbo | 4.6 | 4.7 | 4.8 | 4.9 | 4 | 4.1 |
8 turbo | 4.4 | 4.6 | 4.7 | 4.8 | 3.6 | 3.7 |
TDP | 65 | 125 | 65 | 125 | 35 | 35 |
TDP Down | N/A | 95 | N/A | N/A | 25 | 25 |
Base Clock | 2.5 | 3.6 | 2.5 | 3.5 | 1.4 | 1.5 |
Thanks for the table, it is helpful. My computer died last week in the power outage and I'm looking for a new one. Normally I wouldn't wait, but with AMD chips hard to find and Intel launch just around the corner, I'm eagerly trying to figure out whether to get the scrap that I can get now or wait a month.If this is correct I find it interesting that the base clock for 11700K is 100MHz higher than for the 11900K. Higher leakage parts for the 11900K? Struggling for that last 100MHz?
Since the power has to go somewhere, that power that would have gone to the base clock usually goes with more cores or more uncore features. More cores is very unlikely. But, would it be a slightly better version of something? Faster iGPU? Better memory speed support? Better hyperthreading? What? If I had my dream, it would be Intel using the iGPU for something so it doesn't just sit idle.
I was looking at the increasing frequency delta as TDP goes down.10900K = 10 cores, 10700K = 8 cores. 11900K &11700K = both 8 cores, so base clock difference is coming from something else.
I take it you have never worked in an office in your life, or if you did, it was a government office.I would argue that most of that millions of office workers could "get by" with a paper, pencil and calculator.
It could even be 15 times as fast as my current PC, if it's locked into having to use Mac OS. Not worth it. When they change the way they handle their user base, maybe.I'm disappointed. For a tech forum there is a distinct lack of imagination and desire for pushing the boundaries of what is possible.
With AR, full self-driving, and various other technologies previously considered only science fiction on the cusp of becoming reality, a bean counter approach to chip development will relegate that vendor to obsolescence sooner than they realize. The pace of technological improvements will only accelerate, and anyone caught on the lagging edge will be washed away by the waves of change coming over the next decade.
But for the folks with little imagination: Because of advanced power management and the usefulness of Big.little cores, there will *commonly* be more than 8 cores on an upcoming consumer platform by 2022, but they will be split into performance and efficiency cores.
I will neither confirm nor deny that they might also outperform everything currently on the market. And no, I'm not talking about Alder Lake.
I take it you have never worked in an office in your life, or if you did, it was a government office.
I take it you have never worked in an office in your life, or if you did, it was a government office.
Are you kidding? Government office workers don't even need paper and pencil since they rarely do any work.
Frankly, that's probably for the best.
after:- Update ME 14.1
- Support Re-size BAR function to enhance GPU performance including the Nvidia GeForce RTX 3000 series and others.
- BIOS updated to be compatible with 11th Gen Intel Processors
- Improved compatibility of PCIe-based devices.
- Update ME 14.1
- Support Re-size BAR function to enhance GPU performance including the Nvidia GeForce RTX 3000 series and others.
- Improved compatibility of PCIe-based devices.
Looks messy, MSI just revise statement of the newest Z490-S01 bios.
before:
after:
Might be a confirmation of some low-end Z490 lost a chance to support Rocketlake, even some engineers being puzzled by this.
for people who don't know what's happening:
Likely not all Z490 motherboard will support Rocket Lake-S processors
Admittedly, this is getting a little confusing, isn't it? Earlier this week you have been able to read here that Intel will not support H410 and B460 motherboards for their eleventh-generation desk...www.guru3d.com
There must be some niche that this matters to:I imagine most who planned to buy RKL will be coming from older platforms. Doubt there'll be many 10th gen users, on the cheapest z490 motherboards, who'll want to upgrade that soon.