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TheVrolok

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Shamrock said:
AZ Secretary of State has asked AZ Att General to CRIMINALLY investigate Trump and Guiliani.

www.businessinsider.com

Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani could face criminal investigation in Arizona over their attempts to overturn the election

Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs asked the attorney general to launch an investigation into Donald Trump over attempts to overturn the election.
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Hobbs cited comments made by Ward toward the chairman of the Board of Supervisors, including, "We need you to stop the counting" and "I know you don't want to be remembered as the guy who led the charge to certify a fraudulent election."
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"We need you to stop counting, it would be a shame if *checks notes* something bad were to happen to you."

These people are criminals.
 
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TheVrolok

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fskimospy said:
Yeah I think people really aren’t making a big enough deal out of the fact that the previous president attempted to subvert the constitution and end electoral democracy.
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I'm incredibly tired of the "it's just Trump and his people, they're just bullshiters" I hear from apologists (largely my family). Trump is a former POTUS and the current leader of one of our two political parties. As much as I dislike it, what he (or those talking on his behalf) says has significant weight and leverage. He doesn't get the benefit of the doubt (as if this isn't already historically obvious).
 
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fskimospy

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So that’s his campaign chair, his deputy campaign chair, his campaign manager, his national security advisor, his CFO, and his personal lawyer, all indicted or convicted, and more likely to follow.

But remember, crooked Hillary.
 
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fskimospy said:
So that’s his campaign chair, his deputy campaign chair, his campaign manager, his national security advisor, his CFO, and his personal lawyer, all indicted or convicted, and more likely to follow.

But remember, crooked Hillary.
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We've reached "so what it's not a big deal"
www.cnn.com

Trump seemingly acknowledges facts of prosecutors' case against Trump Organization while criticizing charges over 'fringe benefits'

Former President Donald Trump appeared to acknowledge the core facts in New York prosecutors' case against the Trump Organization and its chief financial officer even as he characterized the charges as a political attack aimed at him.
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Former President Donald Trump appeared to acknowledge the core facts in New York prosecutors' case against the Trump Organization and its chief financial officer even as he characterized the charges as a political attack aimed at him.

Trump told a crowd in Sarasota, Florida, on Saturday night that "every company" does "fringe benefits," but he mocked prosecutors for pursuing the charges, saying it is "reminiscent of a communist dictatorship targeting your political opponents." The comments mark the former President's most
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fskimospy

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Fenixgoon said:
We've reached "so what it's not a big deal"
www.cnn.com

Trump seemingly acknowledges facts of prosecutors' case against Trump Organization while criticizing charges over 'fringe benefits'

Former President Donald Trump appeared to acknowledge the core facts in New York prosecutors' case against the Trump Organization and its chief financial officer even as he characterized the charges as a political attack aimed at him.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com
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Yes, lots of companies do fringe benefits. For which their employees pay taxes, unlike the Trump Organization.
 
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fskimospy said:
Yes, lots of companies do fringe benefits. For which their employees pay taxes, unlike the Trump Organization.
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Workers don't pay taxes on the full value of legit benefits packages like health insurance, mileage allowances, per diem & a variety of other things. OTOH, their employers don't use two sets of books to accomplish it.
 
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hal2kilo

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fskimospy said:
Yes, lots of companies do fringe benefits. For which their employees pay taxes, unlike the Trump Organization.
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When I first starting working for the company I relatively recently retired from. The starting pay was only about .$50 more an hour than my previous job, but I took the job because of per diem. I think it started out at about $24 a day for about 6 months and then steadily declined until it reached $6 dollars a day, and that lasted forever! Whether you were at your home field site or at another field site. Definition of field site being not at the home plant in Anaheim, Ca. Well, I started to ask a couple of the new hires (big build up for Trident) about how to report this money, and was basically told to just take it and keep your mouth shut because the company isn't reporting it. Well, it didn't take it too long for me to just go along with the deal. This deal went on probably for another 5 or 6 years until the IRS kind of got wind of what was going on, and they went to the company and said that money has to be reported as taxable from now on unless you are actually on a TDY assignment, away from your home field site. Never heard of the IRS going after anybody. I think it was kind of a standard practice in that business at the time. Don't even get into the nightmare of working in the UK long term. That turned out to be a nightmare for my previous boss because my company handled it so badly. There was a guy I know at the first field site I worked at that collected $6 a day tax free for over 20 years!
Also, the company currently no longer pays per diem once you were settled at a site for a year.
 
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Lost_in_the_HTTP said:
Well, now .....

www.newsweek.com

Trump Committed Multiple Crimes on Georgia Election Interference: Analysis

Legal experts believe Trump faces "substantial risk" of state charges due to him pressuring Georgia Republicans to block Biden's win.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com


This could get right interestin'.
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Legal analysts' opinions mean nothing IMO. We all know trump has very like committed crimes. Getting someone to open a case and prosecute is a whole nother ballgame.
But at least the Fulton county DA(?) has an active investigation (can't remember)
 
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Lost_in_the_HTTP said:
Do you suppose he'll be deposed?


www.upi.com

N.Y. attorney general seeks to depose former President Donald Trump on property valuations - UPI.com

New York Attorney General Letitia James is seeking to depose former President Donald Trump as part of a civil fraud investigation of the Trump Organization, some outlets reported Thursday.
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The AG decided not to run for Gov. so she could "finish the job". So, it will be fun to watch. Trump better come up with some more grift calls for help. I mean how many F'n lawyers can Trump string along and not pay to defend himself for the numerous lawsuits he's got going on.
 
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Lost_in_the_HTTP said:
Lock Him UP!!!!!!

www.vanityfair.com

A Special Grand Jury in Georgia Could Be the Latest Splitting Headache for Trump

The investigation into Trump and his allies’ attempts to overturn his loss in Georgia is reportedly ramping up.
www.vanityfair.com www.vanityfair.com
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Seems like a long time ....

Georgia prosecutor investigating possible election interference by Trump asks for grand jury

www.chicagotribune.com.ico
Chicago Tribune|5 minutes ago
The Georgia prosecutor who's investigating possible attempts to interfere in the 2020 general election by former President Donald Trump and others has asked for a special grand jury to aid the investigation.
 
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