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"Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis on Thursday sent a letter to Fulton County Superior Court Chief Judge Christopher Brasher asking him to impanel a special grand jury. She wrote in the letter that her office “has received information indicating a reasonable probability that the State of Georgia’s administration of elections in 2020, including the State’s election of the President of the United States, was subject to possible criminal disruptions.”

Willis has declined to speak about the specifics of her investigation, but in an interview with The Associated Press earlier this month she confirmed that its scope includes — but is not limited to — a Jan. 2, 2021, phone call between Trump and Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, a November 2020 phone call between U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham and Raffensperger, the abrupt resignation of the U.S. attorney in Atlanta on Jan. 4, 2021, and comments made during December 2020 Georgia legislative committee hearings on the election."

"Special grand juries, which are not used often in Georgia, can help in the investigation of complex matters. They do not have the power to return an indictment but can make recommendations to prosecutors on criminal prosecutions."

apnews.com

Georgia DA asks for special grand jury in election probe

The Georgia prosecutor investigating possible attempts to interfere in the 2020 general election by former President Donald Trump and others has asked for a special grand jury to aid the investigation.
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Well, phooey .....
 
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Lost_in_the_HTTP said:
"Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis on Thursday sent a letter to Fulton County Superior Court Chief Judge Christopher Brasher asking him to impanel a special grand jury. She wrote in the letter that her office “has received information indicating a reasonable probability that the State of Georgia’s administration of elections in 2020, including the State’s election of the President of the United States, was subject to possible criminal disruptions.”

Willis has declined to speak about the specifics of her investigation, but in an interview with The Associated Press earlier this month she confirmed that its scope includes — but is not limited to — a Jan. 2, 2021, phone call between Trump and Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, a November 2020 phone call between U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham and Raffensperger, the abrupt resignation of the U.S. attorney in Atlanta on Jan. 4, 2021, and comments made during December 2020 Georgia legislative committee hearings on the election."

"Special grand juries, which are not used often in Georgia, can help in the investigation of complex matters. They do not have the power to return an indictment but can make recommendations to prosecutors on criminal prosecutions."

apnews.com

Georgia DA asks for special grand jury in election probe

The Georgia prosecutor investigating possible attempts to interfere in the 2020 general election by former President Donald Trump and others has asked for a special grand jury to aid the investigation.
apnews.com apnews.com

Well, phooey .....
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Isn't that usually how grand juries are normally used? Not to indict people outright, but whether they believe a case can be brought given the available evidence? (And then the prosecutor proceeds with filing charges or not)
 
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Fenixgoon said:
Isn't that usually how grand juries are normally used? Not to indict people outright, but whether they believe a case can be brought given the available evidence? (And then the prosecutor proceeds with filing charges or not)
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No, they are using a special type of GC there. The typical GC does indict.
 
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Heating up as The Don keeps running his mouth.

Georgia DA investigating Trump asks FBI for security help

www.chicagotribune.com.ico
Chicago Tribune|10 minutes ago
The prosecutor who's investigating whether Donald Trump and others broke the law by trying to pressure Georgia officials to overturn Joe Biden's presidential election victory is asking the FBI for security help after the former president railed against prosecutors investigating him.
 
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Lost_in_the_HTTP said:
1/21? Later?

NY first? Then who?
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Looks like Trump dodged one of the NY bullets, case against Trump appears to have been dropped.
www.msnbc.com

Manhattan DA accused of dropping criminal case against Trump

In a resignation letter published in the New York Times, prosecutor Mark Pomerantz claimed the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office is abandoning its investigation into former President Trump. MSNBC Legal Analyst Jill Wine-Banks shares why the case could still be moving forward.
www.msnbc.com www.msnbc.com
 
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Donnie and Miss L too!!!


"Willis has confirmed that her team is looking into a January 2021 phone call in which Trump pushed Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to “find” the votes needed for him to win the state. She has also said they’re looking at a November 2020 phone call between U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham and Raffensperger, the abrupt resignation of the U.S. attorney in Atlanta on Jan. 4, 2021, and comments made during December 2020 Georgia legislative committee hearings on the election."

www.pbs.org

Georgia to seat special grand jury to investigate Trump election probe

All eyes will be on Fulton County as a special grand jury is impaneled for an investigation into whether former President Donald Trump and others illegally tried to pressure Georgia officials to overturn Joe Biden’s presidential election victory.
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Lost_in_the_HTTP said:
Former Attorney General Eric Holder said Sunday that he thinks "there's going to be sufficient factual information" to indict Trump.
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Whenever something is mentioned about the crimes and misdemeanors of Donald Trump, we always hear words such as thinks.... if..... if true.... if proven.... might be.... may be..... could be.... but never the words that I want to hear, has definitely.
With all the if's and should be's and might be's and possibly's, still nothing every happens to Donald Trump. How long has it been since we were first told THIS IS THE BIG ONE, THIS WILL BRING TRUMP DOWN and yet the weeks and months pass by and nada. Nothing.

If Donald Trump is really that guilty of something then he should have either been proven guilty without a doubt, or prosecuted, or held accountable, or something.... anything..... but no. Trump still walks the face of the earth as a free man able to do whatever he wants and to go wherever he wants to go. He's getting away with murder and it seems there is nothing that can be done.
I question the sincerity of the prosecution, prosecutors, and the system itself. Are they protecting Trump? Or, is this only the playing of politics and nothing more?

I seriously doubt that Donald Trump ever see the inside of a court room let alone the inside of a jail cell. And so America, don't get your hopes up. We've been let down too many times. We have seen books and more books exposing the horrors of Trump yet in the end it comes down to only a book. And another book. And still another.
Donald Trump isn't going anywhere except probably a second term at the Whitehouse.
 
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sportage said:
Whenever something is mentioned about the crimes and misdemeanors of Donald Trump, we always hear words such as thinks.... if..... if true.... if proven.... might be.... may be..... could be.... but never the words that I want to hear, has definitely.
With all the if's and should be's and might be's and possibly's, still nothing every happens to Donald Trump. How long has it been since we were first told THIS IS THE BIG ONE, THIS WILL BRING TRUMP DOWN and yet the weeks and months pass by and nada. Nothing.

If Donald Trump is really that guilty of something then he should have either been proven guilty without a doubt, or prosecuted, or held accountable, or something.... anything..... but no. Trump still walks the face of the earth as a free man able to do whatever he wants and to go wherever he wants to go. He's getting away with murder and it seems there is nothing that can be done.
I question the sincerity of the prosecution, prosecutors, and the system itself. Are they protecting Trump? Or, is this only the playing of politics and nothing more?

I seriously doubt that Donald Trump ever see the inside of a court room let alone the inside of a jail cell. And so America, don't get your hopes up. We've been let down too many times. We have seen books and more books exposing the horrors of Trump yet in the end it comes down to only a book. And another book. And still another.
Donald Trump isn't going anywhere except probably a second term at the Whitehouse.
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The issue you're having is that you believe every accusation made against Trump is proven fact. The assumption of guilt makes for fine drama, but it doesn't work in a court room. The reason Trump isn't in jail is that no one has enough evidence to indict him.
After the Russian collusion accusation fizzled out it was New York that was going to put him away, that looks like it's going to end without a charge being filed.
The next great liberal hope is Trump scrambling for votes to turn the election and the January 6th riot. That might pan out, or it might not.

The simple reality is that if all you ever see or hear is that Trump is guilty of X, then you believe it. The hard truth is that until a jury convicts, it's all hearsay and speculation.
 
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Greenman said:
The issue you're having is that you believe every accusation made against Trump is proven fact. The assumption of guilt makes for fine drama, but it doesn't work in a court room. The reason Trump isn't in jail is that no one has enough evidence to indict him.
After the Russian collusion accusation fizzled out it was New York that was going to put him away, that looks like it's going to end without a charge being filed.
The next great liberal hope is Trump scrambling for votes to turn the election and the January 6th riot. That might pan out, or it might not.
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It's weird that you continually deny collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government when they literally publicly confessed to collusion and then provided emails proving their collusion.

While it is true that Don Jr. wasn't indicted for colluding with the Russian government the reason given is that the crime requires him to know that colluding with the Russian government was a crime and they had trouble establishing that. ie: ignorance was in fact a defense to criminal activity. There is zero doubt though -absolutely zero- that Trump's campaign colluded with the Russians. It is a fact.

The simple reality is that if all you ever see or hear is that Trump is guilty of X, then you believe it. The hard truth is that until a jury convicts, it's all hearsay and speculation.
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You realize hearsay is evidence and is used in court cases all the time, right?
 
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Greenman said:
The issue you're having is that you believe every accusation made against Trump is proven fact. The assumption of guilt makes for fine drama, but it doesn't work in a court room.
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The issue you're having is that you believe every accusation made is false. They're not. They have all been proven and corroborated multiple ways, including by his family and his own words. There is no doubt at all about his guilt. None.

The problem is getting it into court. He has done so many things wrong, they're having trouble picking out which ones are most likely to work in court. There is still a political issue of prosecuting a former President, regardless of the severity of charges. There are people who think that office is above the law and a prosecution would do harm to the office and country.
 
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