Illegal voter found in TX

[Londo_Jowo]

How much did it cost? Also, why is the ease of complying with a pointless requirement relevant?

It cost $25 plus $3 shipping/handling at the time

 

[Londo_Jowo]

So what?

Just showing it's not so difficult to get a birth certificate

 

[Jhhnn]

I have to show my ID at least 30 times a year, when getting site specific training for plants I'll be working at, when I'm obtaining a plant ID card prior to entering the plant, and at random/plant wide drug screens. When I used to travel by plane I used to show my ID at least 150 times a year.

So what?

 

[Jhhnn]

Just showing it's not so difficult to get a birth certificate

Just showing it wasn't difficult for you to obtain a document that isn't a birth cert. Your circumstances aren't universal.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Just showing it wasn't difficult for you to obtain a document that isn't a birth cert. Your circumstances aren't universal.

I was able to obtain my birth certificate in 2008 in one week. My mother did so two years ago to get a passport and she was born in 1936.

 

[Jhhnn]

I was able to obtain my birth certificate in 2008 in one week. My mother did so two years ago to get a passport and she was born in 1936.

So what. Show us the fraud. Only then we can have a rational discussion.

 

[fskimospy]

It cost $25 plus $3 shipping/handling at the time

It's around $80+ in plenty of states. Way too much to ask to stop something that never happens.

Then again $1 would be too much to stop something that never happens like this, haha.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Lots of people have looked. The government had engaged in extensive investigation to try and locate this mythical voter fraud and has failed every time. You guys simply ignore empirical evidence because it doesn't tell you what you want to hear.

It's especially bizarre because a lack of voter fraud is what you claim to want. Interesting.

Again it's just more of your bullshit.

 

[Paratus]

It's a sob story made up bullshit post. It may affect .0001% of the population and if she made a call help would have been provided. Much the same as fskholes "no evidence" claim. If they want evidence all they would have to do is look.

Liar

 

[Jhhnn]

Again it's just more of your bullshit.

Show us that voter fraud is a significant problem to have an argument. Anything else is bullshit of the post-truth variety.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Show us that voter fraud is a significant problem to have an argument. Anything else is bullshit of the post-truth variety.

Now it's "significant problem" instead of it doesn't exist at all. Just one illegal vote diminishes all.

 

[Jhhnn]

Now it's "significant problem" instead of it doesn't exist at all. Just one illegal vote diminishes all.

Bullshit. It's always been an issue of having a significant problem. There obviously isn't one no matter how desperately you try to avoid that.

 

[Paratus]

Just to add, I had to get a copy of my Virginia birth certificate for proving my citizenship as part of the immigration visa process for my wife and step-daughter. I ordered it online and did not choose expedited service. I had it within one week in Texas, had I still been in Virginia I would have had it in 3 days.

We were looking to get a passport for our kids. For awhile Houston hospitals were passing out short form birth certificates. Turns out these were not good for obtaining a passport. It took 3-4 weeks for them to mail us a new long form copy. The other option was a 50 mile round trip and wasting a day of work to do it in person.

This is not a fast process.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Bullshit. It's always been an issue of having a significant problem. There obviously isn't one no matter how desperately you try to avoid that.

Zero tolerance for voter fraud is not a difficult concept to accept.

 

[Jhhnn]

Zero tolerance for voter fraud is not a difficult concept to accept.

Because it's bullshit. Rare cases of voter fraud are vigorously pursued everywhere.

 

[Sunburn74]

Re voter ID laws, it's a selection bias. People who can get IDs easily tend to have them. People who cannot get IDs for various easily tend not to have them. You can't really expect the two populations to behave the same.

If there was a law that said hey in order to vote you have to be a non smoker (which is a totally legal thing that can be passed), it'd be asinine for non-smokers to look at smokers and say "hey just quit smoking already and you can vote. Quitting smoking is easy. I don't smoke at all and if you really want to vote you'd take the effort to quit". To me voter ID laws fall into this type of category.

If you're interested in preventing fraud why not just have people vote once and give them the ID there and then for all future use. Or do fingerprinting once for long term use or other biometric data or something like that.

 

[JSt0rm]

If you hate America so much, leave. But we all know that won't happen. Keep looking down at people you think are lesser and insulting them though, it's part of the reason we are where we are today.

I wont leave. I make america great inspite of your greatest efforts to blow it all up. Weird considering you have kids who will want a real future. Not a future with mine dust in their water and the only jobs available are drilling holes in metal or natural resource extraction like some third world country. Ask your kids what they want to be when they grow up and I'll bet dollars to donuts its some "liberal elite" thing.

 

[norseamd]

3 months and 1 illegal voter has been found.

Thats some illegal voter problem.

 

[JSt0rm]

3 months and 1 illegal voter has been found.

Thats some illegal voter problem.

we need to spend billions!

 

[Paratus]

we need to disenfrachise hundreds of thousands !

FTFY.

 

[MrPickins]

It's a sob story made up bullshit post. It may affect .0001% of the population and if she made a call help would have been provided. Much the same as fskholes "no evidence" claim. If they want evidence all they would have to do is look.

A call to whom, exactly?

 

[Pens1566]

3 months and 1 illegal voter has been found.

Thats some illegal voter problem.

Now we just have to find the other 2,999,999! Maybe it'll happen before our sun explodes.

 

[MongGrel]

Just showing it's not so difficult to get a birth certificate

Your complete lack of reading comprehension is showing again.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

3 months and 1 illegal voter has been found.

Thats some illegal voter problem.

If you'd read the story, you'd see that isn't the case.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

A call to whom, exactly?

http://www.vote411.org/
Almost any and all social workers will aid an elderly woman in the steps to legally vote. While it may not be possible on Nov. 7th, if they take even the most minimal effort there's help out there. Please don't try to pretend that it isn't true.