I shot a gun for the first time in my life last weekend

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krunchykrome

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Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: KLin
Congratulations, you are now eligible to obtain a man card. :thumbsup:

I wouldn't go that far, he's still succombing to his girlfriend's wishes. Once he breaks that barrier, then he's good to go.

Suppose we get married. You don't see a problem with me going ahead and buying a gun despite her feelings towards keeping a gun in the house?

So are you going to let her dictate everything that you can buy in your life? What about when you go through midlife and want a corvette but she wants a Toyota Prius? Stand up for yourself and do what you want to do. Buy a safe to put the guns in, problem solved, lets see those scary guns break themselves out of the safe and go on a shooting rampage.

There are things that I'm willing to compromise on, for various reasons, and then there are things that I will not budge on. This is one of those items that I will compromise on due to it's sensitivity.

Look, without sounding shauvinistic (sp?), you are the protector in this relationship. And if you feel it is beneficial for the safety of your family, then you need to put your foot down. Now, you will probably say you don't need a gun to feel safe. That's not the point. The point is all you need to do is make her believe you need it to properly protect the family, as it is your obligation to do everything within your power to protect. Just as she will require certain things when she becomes a nurturer to your children.

Fair enough, I can agree with that statement.
 

KK

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Originally posted by: NuclearNed
When I was quite a bit younger, one of the first guns I shot was a muzzle-loader. The guy who owned it convinced me it was something that I just had to do. Unknown to me, he packed the barrel full of powder. After firing it, I slowly picked myself up off the ground and started searching for my shoulder. I found it 75 yards away under a bush.

Good times.

Kinda like this kid?
 

lupi

Lifer
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Now go head out into the woods with a 12 gauge and a full load of 00-buck and try to take down bambi.
 

Kelvrick

Lifer
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If you're going to try to convince her, either bring a friend who knows his stuff, or learn your stuff before taking her.

Maybe take a safety course together.

My GF didn't like it very much but before she knew it, I had a Sig and then a month later a smith & wesson and then a mosin nagant. Looks like I'll be adding a remington or mossberg to that soon.
 

SlowSpyder

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Picture of me at the range.

I love that pic, you can see the shell ejecting. :) If you ever get a chance you should shoot at a plinking range. You can bring things to shoot, it's a lot more fun then just shooting paper targets. I have an old stereo, some speakers, a vaccum, and a few other old electronics sitting down stairs for the next time I go. I shot an HP Laserjet (4si maybe?). That brought so much satisfaction. I hate older HP printers. :|
 

AlienCraft

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Nov 23, 2002
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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: YoungGun21
Originally posted by: daveymark
Does one need a FOID to go shooting at the range?


Firearm Owners ID. I believe you just need to be accompanied by the owner of said gun you will be shooting.

Wrong. All you need is, is a drivers license, unless you live in Kaliforniastan and possibly NY and a few other states
Wrong again .
Don't know much about California's gun laws other than what you've been told , huh?
To rent a pistol at a range you need to be 18 and with driver's license.

 

CKent

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Originally posted by: CPA
Look, without sounding shauvinistic (sp?), you are the protector in this relationship. And if you feel it is beneficial for the safety of your family, then you need to put your foot down. Now, you will probably say you don't need a gun to feel safe. That's not the point. The point is all you need to do is make her believe you need it to properly protect the family, as it is your obligation to do everything within your power to protect. Just as she will require certain things when she becomes a nurturer to your children.

Depends if he really wants to own one. Would you (krunchy) own one if it wasn't for her stance against them?

Originally posted by: lupi
Now go head out into the woods with a 12 gauge and a full load of 00-buck and try to take down bambi.

Do it fast, in 6 months he'll be a 200 pound guided missile aimed at your car, and he'll probably take out your garden in the meantime :frown:
 

hanoverphist

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Dec 7, 2006
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Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
Originally posted by: YoungGun21
Originally posted by: daveymark
Does one need a FOID to go shooting at the range?


Firearm Owners ID. I believe you just need to be accompanied by the owner of said gun you will be shooting.

Many places will let you rent. In DE we don't even have any kind of firearm id card. When I purchased my first gun it was rather scary that I just had to show a few forms of id and fill out a simple form. No waiting period, no id card...15 minutes and I legally walked out with a gun.

ya, my first gun purchase was at a gun show... no ID, cash and carry. the rules changed a ccouple months later and i had to fill out a form before carrying it out. the last one i bought had the background check req. but it took literally 5 minutes and i was out the door again. pretty cool.
 

Nebor

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Just say, "Don't you want me to be able to protect you and our kids, sweetheart?" Appeals to all kinds of macho imagery and her motherhood instincts.

For more advice, see AR15.com
 

Kelvrick

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Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
Picture of me at the range.

I love that pic, you can see the shell ejecting. :) If you ever get a chance you should shoot at a plinking range. You can bring things to shoot, it's a lot more fun then just shooting paper targets. I have an old stereo, some speakers, a vaccum, and a few other old electronics sitting down stairs for the next time I go. I shot an HP Laserjet (4si maybe?). That brought so much satisfaction. I hate older HP printers. :|

Hey. Is that the mosin nagant m44? How is the recoil on that guy? I was thinking of picking one up and then replacing the stock with a synthetic one. Maybe cut down on the weight a bit and see if I can go hunting with it.
 

nick1985

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Dec 29, 2002
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Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Why would you let your GF tell you that you can't own a gun? Grow a pair.

Well, we're a little more serious than just a boyfriend/girlfriend thing. We'll be getting engaged within the next six months. The way I see it, gun ownership is such a sensitive subject, and for it to work in a household, all parties need to be comfortable with the idea of owning one. In our case, she's does not like the idea of owning a gun at all, where as I don't have a problem with it either way. The middle ground is that we don't own one. I think thats a fair compromise to consider her feelings.

It would be a shame to have a couple burlgers bust in and have their way with you/her when a firearm would have prevented it. The case of the doctor and his family in the news comes to mind.
 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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Originally posted by: Kelvrick
Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
Picture of me at the range.

I love that pic, you can see the shell ejecting. :) If you ever get a chance you should shoot at a plinking range. You can bring things to shoot, it's a lot more fun then just shooting paper targets. I have an old stereo, some speakers, a vaccum, and a few other old electronics sitting down stairs for the next time I go. I shot an HP Laserjet (4si maybe?). That brought so much satisfaction. I hate older HP printers. :|

Hey. Is that the mosin nagant m44? How is the recoil on that guy? I was thinking of picking one up and then replacing the stock with a synthetic one. Maybe cut down on the weight a bit and see if I can go hunting with it.

It is an M91/30
 

SlowSpyder

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Originally posted by: Kelvrick
Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
Picture of me at the range.

I love that pic, you can see the shell ejecting. :) If you ever get a chance you should shoot at a plinking range. You can bring things to shoot, it's a lot more fun then just shooting paper targets. I have an old stereo, some speakers, a vaccum, and a few other old electronics sitting down stairs for the next time I go. I shot an HP Laserjet (4si maybe?). That brought so much satisfaction. I hate older HP printers. :|

Hey. Is that the mosin nagant m44? How is the recoil on that guy? I was thinking of picking one up and then replacing the stock with a synthetic one. Maybe cut down on the weight a bit and see if I can go hunting with it.


Yessir, it's a mosin I picked up at a gun show for $100. Mine is a cheapy, not in great shape. The barrel has some pitting. It shoots good for plinking though, and ammo isn't quite .22 cheap, but it's still very cheap and much more satisfying to shoot then a .22. Recoil is fairly stout. If you're used to shooting a 12 gauge then you won't have a problem with this gun. It does kick, after shooting a few hundred rounds I have a black & blue shoulder, but it's not terrible. On a 1 - 10 scale I'd say it's a 6 on the recoil. I'm not sure that I'd want to make it any lightre.
 

hanoverphist

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Dec 7, 2006
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Originally posted by: YoungGun21
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: KLin
Congratulations, you are now eligible to obtain a man card. :thumbsup:

I wouldn't go that far, he's still succombing to his girlfriend's wishes. Once he breaks that barrier, then he's good to go.

Suppose we get married. You don't see a problem with me going ahead and buying a gun despite her feelings towards keeping a gun in the house?


You could always shoot her with it if she keeps nagging you about it.

is it bad that this made me laff out loud?

and i got luky, my ex wife was raised by her deputy sherriff dad, who still carries a 44 even tho hes been retired for 10 years. she grew up shooting, so we made a hobby of it. she was a bit peeved that when she walked out i only let her take the .25 cal gut shooter with her, since we bought that for her years ago (i used that as an excuse to get it lol).

and i agree with the other bulletheads, let her shoot a small frame, small caliber pistol before getting her into a 357 or something. she will enjoy it more.
 

Ruptga

Lifer
Aug 3, 2006
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Originally posted by: YoungGun21
Its addicting. Just wait til you start shooting rifles.

Shotguns and empty pop bottles can be lots of fun too :D well, anything small and light enough to be thrown easily can be lots of fun with shotguns, but you can easily see where and how many hits you have with a pop bottle, and they usually fly a bit when hit, as opposed to a block of wood or something. Just make sure you don't shoot at anything metal, ricochet can be killer, especially at close range.
 

Ruptga

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Aug 3, 2006
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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Why would you let your GF tell you that you can't own a gun? Grow a pair.

Well, we're a little more serious than just a boyfriend/girlfriend thing. We'll be getting engaged within the next six months. The way I see it, gun ownership is such a sensitive subject, and for it to work in a household, all parties need to be comfortable with the idea of owning one. In our case, she's does not like the idea of owning a gun at all, where as I don't have a problem with it either way. The middle ground is that we don't own one. I think thats a fair compromise to consider her feelings.

As what KK said above you - she's probably never had experience with one. Take her there and let her shoot. If she's worried about safety, a kid finding it - there's gun safes, trigger locks, etc. But it's an enjoyable experience - I've always enjoyed firing a firearm. But glad you enjoyed the experience :thumbsup:

Yup, store the ammo in one place and the gun in another and you're good to go, there's a lot of gun safes divided down the middle, with two doors and sets of keys and all, one side for ammo and one for the gun(s). I recommend it if you're going to have kids anywhere near them.
 

hanoverphist

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Dec 7, 2006
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Originally posted by: ADDAvenger
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Why would you let your GF tell you that you can't own a gun? Grow a pair.

Well, we're a little more serious than just a boyfriend/girlfriend thing. We'll be getting engaged within the next six months. The way I see it, gun ownership is such a sensitive subject, and for it to work in a household, all parties need to be comfortable with the idea of owning one. In our case, she's does not like the idea of owning a gun at all, where as I don't have a problem with it either way. The middle ground is that we don't own one. I think thats a fair compromise to consider her feelings.

As what KK said above you - she's probably never had experience with one. Take her there and let her shoot. If she's worried about safety, a kid finding it - there's gun safes, trigger locks, etc. But it's an enjoyable experience - I've always enjoyed firing a firearm. But glad you enjoyed the experience :thumbsup:

Yup, store the ammo in one place and the gun in another and you're good to go, there's a lot of gun safes divided down the middle, with two doors and sets of keys and all, one side for ammo and one for the gun(s). I recommend it if you're going to have kids anywhere near them.

thats what i do as well. mine is split top and bottom with different keys, and all the firearms have trigger locks as well. my kids are 10, 10 and 12, and they have already been exposed to firearm safety as well as seen what they can destroy. they have a healthy amount of respect for them at this point, but i still dont tempt that soon to be here teenager need to find things out for themselves.
 

TallBill

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Fuck dividing ammo and guns. Guns don't jump up and fire by themselves. I keep a loaded (round in the chamber) handgun in a drawer by my bed with nothing else in it. My wife keeps a loaded (no round in the chamber) handgun in her drawer.
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Fuck dividing ammo and guns. Guns don't jump up and fire by themselves. I keep a loaded (round in the chamber) handgun in a drawer by my bed with nothing else in it. My wife keeps a loaded (no round in the chamber) handgun in her drawer.

Agreed. My safe is full of loaded guns. All my assault rifles and battle rifles have a loaded mag in them, and plenty of loaded mags up on top ready to rock and roll. They've never broken out of the safe and gone on a killing spree.

My bedside Sig 228 is always loaded, as is my bedside PS90. Both chambered.

How the hell do you expect to shoot anyone when your guns in one place and your ammunition's in another?
 

vi edit

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Fuck dividing ammo and guns. Guns don't jump up and fire by themselves. I keep a loaded (round in the chamber) handgun in a drawer by my bed with nothing else in it. My wife keeps a loaded (no round in the chamber) handgun in her drawer.

If you have kids (your own and their friends) in the home the stakes are a little different.
 

3NF

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I went to a gun club once with my dad and his friends. We shot some hand guns at a target and some clay pigeons with a shotgun ... Yawn ... Good thing it wasn't my money that paid for the ammo.
 
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Originally posted by: vi_edit
Originally posted by: TallBill
Fuck dividing ammo and guns. Guns don't jump up and fire by themselves. I keep a loaded (round in the chamber) handgun in a drawer by my bed with nothing else in it. My wife keeps a loaded (no round in the chamber) handgun in her drawer.

If you have kids (your own and their friends) in the home the stakes are a little different.

Not necessarily. My daughter is 12 now, and very well trained with firearms. My sidearm stays loaded, round chambered, 24/7. If I'm awake it's usually on me, but when I'm asleep it's in my headboard compartment. The only 'lock' on it is that the compartment has a semi-secret lever in order to open it. A gun you can't bring into play within about 5 seconds is a $400 paperweight.
 

adairusmc

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Fuck dividing ammo and guns. Guns don't jump up and fire by themselves. I keep a loaded (round in the chamber) handgun in a drawer by my bed with nothing else in it. My wife keeps a loaded (no round in the chamber) handgun in her drawer.


:thumbsup:

Every single one of my rifles and handguns are loaded and the ammo is nearby and readily accessable, just in case.

I even have a couple of CS grenades that may come in handy right there with the stuff. :D
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: adairusmc
Originally posted by: TallBill
Fuck dividing ammo and guns. Guns don't jump up and fire by themselves. I keep a loaded (round in the chamber) handgun in a drawer by my bed with nothing else in it. My wife keeps a loaded (no round in the chamber) handgun in her drawer.


:thumbsup:

Every single one of my rifles and handguns are loaded and the ammo is nearby and readily accessable, just in case.

I even have a couple of CS grenades that may come in handy right there with the stuff. :D

Hopefully you keep at mask with the CS grenades. And body armor. Because if it comes CS time, you'll be needing both. ;)
 
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Originally posted by: AlienCraft
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: YoungGun21
Originally posted by: daveymark
Does one need a FOID to go shooting at the range?


Firearm Owners ID. I believe you just need to be accompanied by the owner of said gun you will be shooting.

Wrong. All you need is, is a drivers license, unless you live in Kaliforniastan and possibly NY and a few other states
Wrong again .
Don't know much about California's gun laws other than what you've been told , huh?
To rent a pistol at a range you need to be 18 and with driver's license.

Thought it was 21 to shoot a handgun in CA? I may be wrong, but I've definitely gone to the range with people and all you need is a driver's license.

Stupid CA haters FTL.