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How funny it is that an imaginary being has "proven" itself to you. Humans are amazing in their ability to rationalize pretty much anything.

If it wasn't for God I wouldn't be alive right now. I wish you could have a relationship with him and know what it is like and the joy it can bring to life.God is ready to have that relationship anytime you are.
People think that when they ridicule my beliefs that it hurts me in some way, it doesn't, it only makes me sad and wish that I could have been the one to help them to know God better before whoever it was that set them on a path away from him.
 

thecoolnessrune

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Neffing in troll religion thread!

Everyone for some reason genuinely believes that them saying something here makes any difference.

Each side talks about being "enlightened" but most of you are too stupid to realize that your silly banter here is as meaningless as the circle jerk you perform on each other's arguments while simultaneously declaring intellectual self-superiority similar to little kids shouting "I shot you!" "No you didn't, I shot you first!"
 

Cerpin Taxt

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Neffing in troll religion thread!

Everyone for some reason genuinely believes that them saying something here makes any difference.

Each side talks about being "enlightened" but most of you are too stupid to realize that your silly banter here is as meaningless as the circle jerk you perform on each other's arguments while simultaneously declaring intellectual self-superiority similar to little kids shouting "I shot you!" "No you didn't, I shot you first!"
Oh, the ironing. It is delicious. :rolleyes:
 

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If it wasn't for God I wouldn't be alive right now.
In actuality, if it weren't for the Flying Spaghetti Monster, you wouldn't be alive right now.You can keep falsely attributing it to your non-pasta god, though. His Noodliness isn't nearly as jealous as those silly Christians purport their god to be.

I wish you could have a relationship with him and know what it is like and the joy it can bring to life.
How about you first tackle the obstacle of demonstrating that your god is anywhere instantiated in reality?

God is ready to have that relationship anytime you are.
Preposterous! In every day life if a person wants to have a relationship with someone else, they take measured steps to see that relationship develop. No god has ever taken any such steps toward me. That doesn't seem like any god is "ready" -- it rather seems like no such god exists.

People think that when they ridicule my beliefs that it hurts me in some way, it doesn't, it only makes me sad and wish that I could have been the one to help them to know God better before whoever it was that set them on a path away from him.
Away from what? What is there to stray from?
 

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See that's exactly what I'm talking about.
No, actually it is exactly what I'm talking about. You didn't say anything about irony. Maybe you should go review your earlier posts.

You say its irony simply because you say it is.
Um... what? It's irony because you are modeling the behavior you're condemning. Sorry I didn't spell it out for you in a 500-word essay with accompanying illustrations. I'll take it under advisement that such subtleties are absolutely lost on you.

Its exactly that type of circular logic that you're criticizing.
I does not seem like you understand what circular logic is if you think that I have employed it.

"The ironing, it's delicious".
That's what I said. It's still up there for everyone else to see.

Go cry more. :cool:
About what? You were the one that entered the thread with no other apparent purpose than to "cry" about the behavior of participants in a discussion you don't appear qualified to enter yourself. In the immortal words of Steve Perry, "Who's crying now?"
 

thecoolnessrune

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No, actually it is exactly what I'm talking about. You didn't say anything about irony. Maybe you should go review your earlier posts.

Simply lulz. You actually believe what you're saying right now matters to me. Your statement means nothing. Your hypocrisy is obvious and I'm sorry but I won't spell that out for you in a 500 word essay. :p


Um... what? It's irony because you are modeling the behavior you're condemning. Sorry I didn't spell it out for you in a 500-word essay with accompanying illustrations. I'll take it under advisement that such subtleties are absolutely lost on you.

See above. Take previous advice given to you about *context*. You see, because this is just neffing, no one (except you) really cares what I'm saying. However, *you* are really serious about that junk you've been spewing thus far, as if you genuinely *believe* that you are making a difference. And for that, it ruffles people's feathers, so therefore when I make a comment about your irony in judging people for circular reasoning, when you stated it *with no supporting evidence*, its a problem to people. It's unfair, but that's the way it is, try not to be a little bitch about it :cool:


I does not seem like you understand what circular logic is if you think that I have employed it.

Looks like you agree with me. Or you're grammatically retarded. Either one does not look good for you. :p


That's what I said. It's still up there for everyone else to see.

And that's what *I* said. And it's still up there for everyone else to see. Why do you have this complex about you that makes you think everything *you* say is that important to people? :awe:


About what? You were the one that entered the thread with no other apparent purpose than to "cry" about the behavior of participants in a discussion you don't appear qualified to enter yourself. In the immortal words of Steve Perry, "Who's crying now?"

His words aren't immortal. His words won't last eternally and if anything they aren't *his* words. He was not the creator of these words nor that phrase. Apparently though you believe this, otherwise you wouldn't have been so stupid as to post it. Looks like you're not qualified for this discussion either. But I'll let you be in it anyways. After all, this is *AnandTech*. You must be one of the most ignorant people I've come across considering you genuinely believe anyone needs to "qualify" to be in here. I may or may not qualify, but you're not the authority in that you silly noob.

Go. Cry. More. :cool:
 

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Simply lulz. You actually believe what you're saying right now matters to me.
If it did not matter to you, you wouldn't respond to it. Your own actions betray you.

Your statement means nothing.
I've made lots of statements, and they all have meaning (in the English language, at least).

Your hypocrisy is obvious and I'm sorry but I won't spell that out for you in a 500 word essay. :p
Then all you've made is a naked assertion unsupported by any evidence. Congratulations. Naked assertions are fun. You sexually molest farm animals, you cheat on your taxes, and you secretly wish to change your gender. Wheeee!

See above. Take previous advice given to you about *context*.
See what above? You making an ass out of yourself by pretending to be superior to people that you think are asses for pretending to be superior to other people? I saw that.

You see, because this is just neffing, no one (except you) really cares what I'm saying.
Those are some remarkable mind-reading capabilities you have. Did you stand too close to some radioactive waste as a child or something?

However, *you* are really serious about that junk you've been spewing thus far, as if you genuinely *believe* that you are making a difference.
I am and I do. What's it to you? I thought none of this matters to you?

And for that, it ruffles people's feathers
But certainly not your feathers, right? :rolleyes:

...so therefore when I make a comment about your irony in judging people for circular reasoning...
Where did you make a comment about irony? Please show me where you used any derivative of the word irony except to cite what I said myself.

...when you stated it *with no supporting evidence*
I quoted the supporting evidence, Poindexter. Please, try to keep up.

...its a problem to people.
But it's not a problem to you, though, because none of it matters to you, right?

It's unfair, but that's the way it is, try not to be a little bitch about it :cool:
I'm sorry, am I the one in this thread complaining about the behaviors of other people or whining about what is "unfair"?


Looks like you agree with me. Or you're grammatically retarded. Either one does not look good for you. :p
Desperation is a stinky cologne, ol' chap. Might I suggest a bath?


And that's what *I* said. And it's still up there for everyone else to see.
Um, no, I quoted you quoting me. When you quote me, you aren't saying my words, you're just quoting them. It appears you're just being pugilistic because you are unable to make reasoned critique.

Why do you have this complex about you that makes you think everything *you* say is that important to people? :awe:
Because the things I say often entice ignorant and ineffectual people like yourself to make such a big deal about them... althewhile proclaiming loudly how none of it matters, of course. Methinks thou dost protest too much.

His words aren't immortal.
So his words are mortal, then? Please, explain to us all how that works.

His words won't last eternally and if anything they aren't *his* words.
Beg to differ.

He was not the creator of these words nor that phrase.
He wrote a song of the same title, but I did not suggest that Steve Perry literally created those words. I have to wonder where you got such a strange idea.

Apparently though you believe this, otherwise you wouldn't have been so stupid as to post it.
No, you, for some inexplicable reason, believe that I believe this, which I don't, and really no reasonable person would think that I do.

Looks like you're not qualified for this discussion either.
Ok, Einstein. You sure told me. :rolleyes:

But I'll let you be in it anyways.
That's so awfully gracious of you. Thankee, kindly, massa. Thankee evah so kindly.


After all, this is *AnandTech*. You must be one of the most ignorant people I've come across considering you genuinely believe anyone needs to "qualify" to be in here.
I believe nothing of the sort. You appear to have a distinct tendency to project your own miscalibrated beliefs on to other people.

I may or may not qualify, but you're not the authority in that you silly noob.
Oh! The agony! He called me a noob! Whatever shall I do? He's seen thru me! I confess! This is my first time ever posting in a religion thread! I've been discovered! Oh for shame!

:rolleyes:

Go. Cry. More. :cool:
Physician, heal thyself!
 
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thecoolnessrune

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If it did not matter to you, you wouldn't respond to it. Your own actions betray you.
You responded to a lot of posts where you stated you "didn't care" as well. Sorry man, you're in the same place I am in that regard, whichever way you want to swing it.

I've made lots of statements, and they all have meaning (in the English language, at least).

Guess what? No one cares.

Then all you've made is a naked assertion unsupported by any evidence. Congratulations. Naked assertions are fun. You sexually molest farm animals, you cheat on your taxes, and you secretly wish to change your gender. Wheeee!

If thats's how you want to take it that's fine. You choose to think of things a certain way and then try to push that there's no way you can be wrong. You'll continue to post drivel like above in an attempt to hide your own backpeddling

See what above? You making an ass out of yourself by pretending to be superior to people that you think are asses for pretending to be superior to other people? I saw that.

Only one making an ass out of themselves is you dude. Remember, I'm just posting, you're the only one who is dumb enough to believe they're important enough to be taken seriously :biggrin:

Those are some remarkable mind-reading capabilities you have. Did you stand too close to some radioactive waste as a child or something?

Nah brah, I guess my intelligence and power of reasoning must be far beyond yours since you have trouble comprehending it.. ():)

I am and I do. What's it to you? I thought none of this matters to you?

Why are you trying to assume it does matter to me? All above and below these words you're trying to berate me for making assumptions about you.. Don't be so hypocritical! Besides, this is fun. You aren't having fun? :hmm:

But certainly not your feathers, right?

You'd be correct!

Where did you make a comment about irony? Please show me where you used any derivative of the word irony except to cite what I said myself.

Take your own anecdote of "spin spin spin". The irony was in your previous statements and my post inferred that not only towards you, but towards everyone else circle-jerking with you and those on the opposite "team". Instead of realizing this however, you're pitching a fit because I didn't use a direct, single-word synonym. Please, quit being a little bitch :cool:

I quoted the supporting evidence, Poindexter. Please, try to keep up.

No silly, you *think* you did in *your* opinion. Relax dude! There's no need to keep up on a forum. If someone doesn't get something the first time, they can just read it again. Therefore "keeping up" is irrelevant.

But it's not a problem to you, though, because none of it matters to you, right?

You'd be correct!

I'm sorry, am I the one in this thread complaining about the behaviors of other people or whining about what is "unfair"?

Yes, particularly by trying to get anywhere in this silly e-argument :p

Desperation is a stinky cologne, ol' chap. Might I suggest a bath?

Say what you want man. When you try to assert your own position and have have shitty grammar it kind of nullifies that whole "I'm correct" tone you're attempting to carry. :sneaky:

Um, no, I quoted you quoting me. When you quote me, you aren't saying my words, you're just quoting them. It appears you're just being pugilistic because you are unable to make reasoned critique.

Want a reasoned critique dude? How about the fact that no one here *said* anything. We *wrote* it. It appears you're just being silly.

Because the things I say often entice ignorant and ineffectual people like yourself to make such a big deal about them... althewhile proclaiming loudly how none of it matters, of course. Methinks thou dost protest too much.

Lol, but what happens if the only reason people make a big deal about them is because you take yourself seriously because you genuinely *think* people make a big deal out of them? Additionally, why are you making assumptions about such people that would make a big deal out of it? As I said, I'm just having fun watching you go through your little dance and laughing as I realize just how serious you're being, and how you actually believe any of the crap you're saying.

Oh wait, you thought people would take you seriously here? You're funny. ^_^

So his words are mortal, then? Please, explain to us all how that works.

Here, let me serious a moment and tear your silliness to shreds. You see, they're not *his* words. They are words that he *borrowed* from the English language to produce a statement. So now that you've been schooled, don't be a little bitch about it.

Beg to differ.

Mk!

He wrote a song of the same title, but I did not suggest that Steve Perry literally created those words. I have to wonder where you got such a strange idea.

From the same place where you got the idea that anyone owns words?

No, you, for some inexplicable reason, believe that I believe this, which I don't, and really no reasonable person would think that I do.

See that bold in your quote? Watch closely man.. Watch closely.. Watch what I'm about to do.. I'm about to school you with the words you yourself used!

Those are some remarkable mind-reading capabilities you have. Did you stand too close to some radioactive waste as a child or something?

How do you know what a reasonable person would think, unless you're a mind reader like me! :eek:

Ok, Einstein. You sure told me.

Ya dern skippy!

That's so awfully gracious of you. Thankee, kindly, massa. Thankee evah so kindly.

You're quite welcome. I'll even let you use the outhouse on occasion!

I believe nothing of the sort. You appear to have a distinct tendency to project your own miscalibrated beliefs on to other people.

Watch me school you again :p

No, you, for some inexplicable reason, believe that I believe this, which I don't, and really no reasonable person would think that I do.

See that bold text? Well of course you do, not only did you write it, I've already schooled you with it once!

Oh! The agony! He called me a noob! Whatever shall I do? He's seen thru me! I confess! This is my first time ever posting in a religion thread! I've been discovered! Oh for shame!

Methinks you dost protest too much.

Physician, heal thyself!

I've been told I have a "magic touch" :ninja:
 

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You responded to a lot of posts where you stated you "didn't care" as well. Sorry man, you're in the same place I am in that regard, whichever way you want to swing it.
Please show me "lots" of these posts. Show me any, for that matter.

Guess what? No one cares.
You seem to, your protestations notwithstanding.



If thats's how you want to take it that's fine.
Well, until you can supply any kind of support for your naked assertion, that's how it is. So, yes, I will take it that way.

You choose to think of things a certain way and then try to push that there's no way you can be wrong. You'll continue to post drivel like above in an attempt to hide your own backpeddling.
You have an open and standing invitation to prove me wrong, and what in the world have I backpedaled from? You appear to be simply tossing accusations out hoping something will stick.

Only one making an ass out of themselves is you dude. Remember, I'm just posting, you're the only one who is dumb enough to believe they're important enough to be taken seriously
Ok.

Nah brah, I guess my intelligence and power of reasoning must be far beyond yours since you have trouble comprehending it..
Yeah, that must be it, "brah." :rolleyes:


Why are you trying to assume it does matter to me?
I'm not assuming anything. Your behavior makes it quite an obvious conclusion.

All above and below these words you're trying to berate me for making assumptions about you.. Don't be so hypocritical! Besides, this is fun. You aren't having fun?
Where have I accused you of making assumptions about me? Are you sure you're not confusing me with someone else?


You'd be correct!
Yes, quite clearly your feathers are un-ruffleable. :rolleyes:


Take your own anecdote of "spin spin spin".
Ok, and do what with it, precisely?

The irony was in your previous statements and my post inferred that not only towards you, but towards everyone else circle-jerking with you and those on the opposite "team".
I've tried several different ways of parsing this sentence, and it still remains incoherent.

Instead of realizing this however, you're pitching a fit because I didn't use a direct, single-word synonym. Please, quit being a little bitch :cool:
If you think your entrance into this thread was a clear comment about irony, then I submit you do not understand what irony is.


No silly, you *think* you did in *your* opinion.
No, you don't think I did, because you were the subject of the commentary, and you would do anything to avoid conceding its validity.

Relax dude! There's no need to keep up on a forum. If someone doesn't get something the first time, they can just read it again. Therefore "keeping up" is irrelevant.
If that is the case, you apparently require a few more additional readings still.

You'd be correct!
Right. :rolleyes:

Yes, particularly by trying to get anywhere in this silly e-argument
Please show me where I have complained about the behavior of others or whined about any relative fairness.

Say what you want man. When you try to assert your own position and have have shitty grammar it kind of nullifies that whole "I'm correct" tone you're attempting to carry.
Mine was quite clearly a typo. You apparently don't seem to know the difference between inferring and implying, nor can you construct a coherent sentence about irony, nor do you appear to know the difference between pedaling and peddling, however, so maybe you should think about removing that plank in your own eye before you start talking about motes of dust you think are in mine.

Want a reasoned critique dude? How about the fact that no one here *said* anything. We *wrote* it. It appears you're just being silly.
Is that supposed to be your "reasoned critique"? I'm flabbergasted, "dude".

Lol, but what happens if the only reason people make a big deal about them is because you take yourself seriously because you genuinely *think* people make a big deal out of them?
I think you'd be hard-pressed to show that it is the only reason, but you're such a smarty-pants, let's see you do it.

Additionally, why are you making assumptions about such people that would make a big deal out of it?
I'm not making assumptions. I've been doing this a very, very long time. I know how people feel about the arguments I make.

As I said, I'm just having fun watching you go through your little dance and laughing as I realize just how serious you're being, and how you actually believe any of the crap you're saying.
It's amusing to me to see you attempt to downplay the seriousness with which you are obviously taking this while speaking down to me for being serious about it all along. It appears my original charge against you cut deeper than even I had expected.

Oh wait, you thought people would take you seriously here? You're funny.
I know that some do.

Here, let me serious a moment and tear your silliness to shreds. You see, they're not *his* words. They are words that he *borrowed* from the English language to produce a statement. So now that you've been schooled, don't be a little bitch about it.
Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the colloquialism of quoting "the immortal words" of an author (or in this case, a lyricist), but it is merely that -- an expression. That you think you've scored some meaningful point against me by deconstructing my use of a common expression as if it were literal is quite literally baffling to me, and although I'm sure it's lost on you, rather embarrassing for you anyway.

From the same place where you got the idea that anyone owns words?
Were you not born in America? Is English not your first language?


See that bold in your quote? Watch closely man.. Watch closely.. Watch what I'm about to do.. I'm about to school you with the words you yourself used!



How do you know what a reasonable person would think, unless you're a mind reader like me!
You want to put it to the test? I'll create a poll, and we'll see how many people are familiar with the expression I used, and gather some data on exactly how many people take it to mean that the person using the expression literally thinks that the person they quote "owns" the words used. Do you really think any reasonable person would take it that way? Really?

EDIT: For extra laughs, please be prepared to explain how all 700K+ hits of the phrase on Google were all meant to be taken as you have interpreted and criticized the expression here in my post, since apparently it is not true that a reasonable person would see the expression for what it is, according to you. LINK

Watch me school you again

See that bold text? Well of course you do, not only did you write it, I've already schooled you with it once!
And? Did you have a point?



Methinks you dost protest too much.
How original. :rolleyes:


I've been told I have a "magic touch"
I'm sure he was just being courteous.
 
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Zebo

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It amuses me to see several individuals attempt to distinguish their own private "Christian" worldview from the generally practiced Christianity featured in churches across the country as though they alone have the secret decoder ring to the Bible giving them access to the "real" truth... and yet still they contradict one another. :rolleyes:


LOL. :biggrin: If that were the "basic truth" why did Jesus himself set forth necessary and sufficient conditions for entering the Kingdom of Heaven without once mentioning faith or grace?

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew%2025:31-25:46&version=KJV

Maybe Jesus forgot the basic truth that day. :rolleyes:

/The top has been wound
//Now watch it spin, spin, spin
If there is a god it would be like 1 person tops gets in. Based on this tenant alone.

And I think it's better people don't follow Scriptures word for word. You should read Koran or old testament. Better to take out stuff that won't land you in prison or a mental ward.
 

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So very true. When I hear someone say church or religion is stressful, I know right away they missed the message.

the stress is beneath the surface, you are not aware of it right now. When I first admitted to my self that I was an atheist it was one of the most refreshing moments of my life. I can't even describe it. It is truly wonderful to be able to make your own free judgement about things without worrying about. I'd say I "pray" for you to experience the joy of atheism some day. But I know that it wouldn't do anything. If you do, it will be a result of your own intellectual growth - not attributable to some nebulous outside entity, that's what makes it so rewarding.

The only proof is in the beneficial function faith has for the individual.

Is the beneficial effect that a placebo has on an individual proof that it is medicine?
 

thecoolnessrune

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I are being very serious right now. :mad:

Mk dude :p You have shown clearly that you do not have any such capability to reason when you attempt to build up this list of simple fallacies, but balk when your own list of simple fallacies is shown to you. You claim they're not a big ideal, and try to supplant your position that the order of importance you place on these fallacies is the correct order. Not only would people have varying opinion of this, but some wouldn't consider some of your points, nor mine for that matter, of any concern.

I suppose my point is, the only thing your long winded post did was state nothing more than your *opinion* of a long list of issues you have with me, stemming from the simple idea that you dislike me downplaying the seriousness and self-importance you imply through your posts. This leads to the belief that you do not care so much about providing information, but rather joining everyone else in an e-penis contest, attempting to supplant your *opinions* as fact, while trying to convince everyone else of the same.

I'm sorry dude. The only one's feathers who are ruffled are yours. :p The veil over your eyes due to your need to see the person your talking with all fired up convinces you that *everyone* you talk with must be. But this is the internet man. No one cares what you or I think, all we want is to win the great e-peen contest of life.

But no, you're different than that, you're one of those few people blind enough to believe that what they say out here in cyberspace has any importance. A notion that is as self-righteous as it is ridiculous.

But, nevertheless, here is a :cookie; for all that above text you chose to sit there and right, regardless of how silly it all was, a wish to continue being ebuddies, and a reflective picture of the future of all who take the internet waaay too seriously.

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Mk dude :p You have shown clearly that you do not have any such capability to reason when you attempt to build up this list of simple fallacies, but balk when your own list of simple fallacies is shown to you.
Which fallacies were those? By all means, please be specific. Where are all those examples I demanded to back up the claims you've already made? Do you have any concern for the truth at all, or do you believe that simply hurling enough false accusations is eventually tantamount to making a true one?

You claim they're not a big ideal, and try to supplant your position that the order of importance you place on these fallacies is the correct order. Not only would people have varying opinion of this, but some wouldn't consider some of your points, nor mine for that matter, of any concern.
Seriously, what THE FUCK are you blathering about?

I suppose my point is, the only thing your long winded post did was state nothing more than your *opinion* of a long list of issues you have with me...
I have a few opinions of you, to be sure, but it is not an opinion that you do not understand that "in the immortal words of..." is just an expression. It is not an opinion that you do not know the difference between backpedaling and "backpeddling." It is not an opinion that statements imply things, while people infer things, and that you don't know the difference. It is not an opinion that you've laid several totally baseless charges against me and have refused to defend them with evidence. In summary, it is not an opinion, but quite a fact that you are an ignorant and dishonest person.

...stemming from the simple idea that you dislike me downplaying the seriousness and self-importance you imply through your posts.
Are you sure I'm not actually "inferring" it? Hmm?

And you can downplay it all you like, it's just ironic when you pretend to be superior to other people engaged in a discussion by lamenting about how they allegedly pretend to be superior to eachother. All I did was note the irony, and you got your pecker all in a twist (while, also ironically, swearing up and down that it didn't matter to you).

This leads to the belief that you do not care so much about providing information, but rather joining everyone else in an e-penis contest, attempting to supplant your *opinions* as fact, while trying to convince everyone else of the same.
Please cite for me any thing which I have implied is a fact which you think is merely an opinion and I will either retract it or demonstrate its factuality.

I'm sorry dude. The only one's feathers who are ruffled are yours. :p
Uh huh. Sure. :rolleyes:

The veil over your eyes due to your need to see the person your talking with all fired up convinces you that *everyone* you talk with must be. But this is the internet man. No one cares what you or I think, all we want is to win the great e-peen contest of life.
Please do not project your own experience with the internet on to me.

But no, you're different than that, you're one of those few people blind enough to believe that what they say out here in cyberspace has any importance. A notion that is as self-righteous as it is ridiculous.
Maybe if you started making meaningful statements instead of just tossing word grenades your experience on the interent would differ.

But, nevertheless, here is a :cookie; for all that above text you chose to sit there and right...
"Right"? :rolleyes:

...regardless of how silly it all was, a wish to continue being ebuddies, and a reflective picture of the future of all who take the internet waaay too seriously.
Gosh, you're so cool! I wish I were so cool and above it all like you are. That would be so cool. Then I could just stand aside at toss pot-shots at everyone else, pretending like I'm superior to them because I don't engage in the discussion, even while I'm lambasting them for pretending to be superior to each other. One day, I hope to be that cool. I'm sure it took a lot of hard work and thorough research and study to be that cool. Gosh you're so cool! :rolleyes:
 

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If it wasn't for God I wouldn't be alive right now. I wish you could have a relationship with him and know what it is like and the joy it can bring to life.God is ready to have that relationship anytime you are.
People think that when they ridicule my beliefs that it hurts me in some way, it doesn't, it only makes me sad and wish that I could have been the one to help them to know God better before whoever it was that set them on a path away from him.

Having a "relationship" with an invisible sky wizard just makes me sad too. The ability for human to rationalize and justify insanities is incredibly depressing. Not only depressing, but incredibly scary how ignorant and foolish people could be despite how enlightened we have become.

Surrounding yourself with an echo chamber of friends and churchgoers doesn't make you any more right than flat earthers. Your one religion is no more "right" than the 1000s of others throughout history including the belief in Zeus and Hera.
 
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Is the beneficial effect that a placebo has on an individual proof that it is medicine?
Non pharmaceutical psychology is, by this definition, is a placebo.

That a method of helping an individual works means that it works, there is not single treatment or drug to be double-blind peer reviewed because every individual is different.

Not to say we have to abandon empiricism, but rather that phenomenological, rater than positivist, studies are best suited to social-psychological work.

Cerpin Taxt

What happened to you to make you want to fight against every pro-faith post? Not generally, but specifically, what drives you?
 

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Non pharmaceutical psychology is, by this definition, is a placebo.

That a method of helping an individual works means that it works, there is not single treatment or drug to be double-blind peer reviewed because every individual is different.

Not to say we have to abandon empiricism, but rather that phenomenological, rater than positivist, studies are best suited to social-psychological work.

Cerpin Taxt

What happened to you to make you want to fight against every pro-faith post? Not generally, but specifically, what drives you?

This is very obvious. It's a need to secure his own need of self-reassurance by pressing upon those that differ from him. He, of course, will give a different answer, because it's not a "comforting" reason that satisfies that need for validation. But its obvious, and it's obvious in anyone, theistic, agnostic, atheist, or any other form, that chooses to argue about it here.

If anyone cared about making a difference in someone else's ideology, they would do it in a proper channel. Through peer reviewed research that is published for others (and understand these next words) that care what you think. And that's the crux of the issue here and why "religious debates", as they're called here, are nothing more than each side circle jerking each other in hopes for an internet "pat on the back".

It's the internet. No one cares what you think here. No one here is going to be changing anyone's lives here. The goal here is self-superiority. Because of this need, we know what will happen next here. He'll come in being a little bitch and whining that I wont play his game the way he wants to play it. ():) By which for some reason he feels its acceptable to make assumptions and theory's about people and ideas but that its unnecessary to provide any sort of data, or even a survey or poll. :biggrin: But I will play a little game with him if he wants to play :p I'd ask him to ask any of the people that I've interacted with on an in-person level, and ask them their opinion of me. I think he'll be very surprised by the answer, but that's because he believes that an avatar on the internet is a representation of someone in real life.

That's a shame, and its a disgrace to the hobby that is neffing. :(
 

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Cerpin Taxt

What happened to you to make you want to fight against every pro-faith post? Not generally, but specifically, what drives you?
I do not fight against every "pro-faith post," although I do not take you to mean that I literally let none go unaddressed.

I address instances of factual incorrectness and faulty reasoning, in particular, and it so happens that high frequencies of these phenomena appear in religious expositions which -- because of my personal experience and learning -- I am (in my humble opinion, at least) well-suited to rebut and refute them.
 

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This is very obvious.
If you told me that the sky was obviously blue, I'd have to go outside to check to make sure nothing had changed.,

It's a need to secure his own need of self-reassurance by pressing upon those that differ from him. He, of course, will give a different answer, because it's not a "comforting" reason that satisfies that need for validation. But its obvious, and it's obvious in anyone, theistic, agnostic, atheist, or any other form, that chooses to argue about it here.
You mind-reading capabilities are worse than your ability to substantiate the abundance of silly claims you laid against me already in this thread.

But you're still here because none of this matters to you, at all, of course, and your feathers are totally unruffled. Please, do tell us again. :rolleyes:

If anyone cared about making a difference in someone else's ideology, they would do it in a proper channel. Through peer reviewed research that is published for others (and understand these next words) that care what you think.
For someone that claims to care so little about what we think, you spend an inordinate amount of time writing about it.

And that's the crux of the issue here and why "religious debates", as they're called here, are nothing more than each side circle jerking each other in hopes for an internet "pat on the back".
You're still projecting...

It's the internet. No one cares what you think here.
...as is obvious right here. You do not speak for everyone, and I know for a fact that what you claim is not true.


No one here is going to be changing anyone's lives here.
Totally baseless assertion and contradicted by my personal experience.

The goal here is self-superiority.
That would appear to be your goal, which you are projecting on to others.

Because of this need, we know what will happen next here. He'll come in being a little bitch and whining that I wont play his game the way he wants to play it. ():)
I'm adequately secure in the knowledge that it is obvious who has done the lion's share of the bitching in this thread.

By which for some reason he feels its acceptable to make assumptions and theory's about people and ideas but that its unnecessary to provide any sort of data, or even a survey or poll. :biggrin:
"Theory's"?

But I will play a little game with him if he wants to play :p I'd ask him to ask any of the people that I've interacted with on an in-person level, and ask them their opinion of me. I think he'll be very surprised by the answer, but that's because he believes that an avatar on the internet is a representation of someone in real life.
I don't need to know what other people think of you. I'm quite able to form my own opinions. If you are not so able, then I am sorry for you.

That's a shame, and its a disgrace to the hobby that is neffing. :(
Maybe you need a new hobby.