I live in a country that puts babies in cages

[vi edit]

I have a kidney stone marching through. I don't need anything else to make me puke.

You could use it as pain redirection. Focus away from that spiking throb in your flank and instead drive a red hot poker under your eye. Hey...your kidney don't hurt so bad now does it!

 

[glenn1]

So throw business owners in jail when they hire illegals right?

Sure I have no doubt Trump will get right on that.

 

[Sunburn74]

Or planning to use their kids as even cheaper labor than their parents. If you're already hiring illegals then I doubt you'd care about their age either.

I have zero idea what you're talking about. Absolutely zero idea. Maybe you are responding to another person's post by accident?

I'm just making the point that you can't on day 1 claim that something is deadly and will come infest your country and murder and rape your family en masse and then on day 2 with no new evidence simply say "ah it's fine, let completely undo our policy from just yesterday".

Thats the problem with political rhetoric today. Routine things that can be discussed with evidence get turned into crazy inflammatory positions. One minute you're talking about gun control and then someone is arguing that gun control advocates want to see defenseless homeowners and their kids murdered and raped. Everything gets turned into a position that the other side is dangerous and trying to kill your family and it's ridiculous, disingenous, and very counter productive to solving real problems

 

[brycejones]

Sure I have no doubt Trump will get right on that.

Uh huh, I must have missed the dramatic uptick in prosecutions for hiring illegals. Got a link?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Ok WTF. Trump just said the EO was limited and wouldn't end separations. So why the fuck did you issue it? Was this just a stunt at this point?

"I signed a very good executive order yesterday, but that's only limited. No matter how you cut it, it leads to separation ultimately."

 

[brycejones]

Ok WTF. Trump just said the EO was limited and wouldn't end separations. So why the fuck did you issue it? Was this just a stunt at this point?

He must have talked to Hannity.

 

[glenn1]

Uh huh, I must have missed the dramatic uptick in prosecutions for hiring illegals. Got a link?

He actually has but at this point I don't see why he bothers since it's obvious progressives have zero appetite for stopping the supply of willing labor for the slavers; supply creates its own demand and bottomless supply of exploitable cheap labor priced below minimum wage is going to get exploited no matter how much you crack down on employers.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/15/feds-crack-down-on-employers-who-hire-illegals/

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Sure I have no doubt

This is why America fails.

 

[brycejones]

He actually has but at this point I don't see why he bothers since it's obvious progressives have zero appetite for stopping the supply of willing labor for the slavers; supply creates its own demand and bottomless supply of exploitable cheap labor priced below minimum wage is going to get exploited no matter how much you crack down on employers.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/15/feds-crack-down-on-employers-who-hire-illegals/

Yep that's it, we all want wide open borders, you finally figured it out and we would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for Jeff Sessions and Stephen Miller.

Can we let them vote on day 1 as well? Even better we'll let anyone vote who is thinking of coming to the US.

When you're ready to stop being retarded let us know.

 

[glenn1]

This is why America fails.

Hey look on the bright side, you'll never need to pay full price for a minimum wage worker again and if you need to fire one there's million more illegals in the pool; they'll be replaced before you can say "inmigración" and have them deported.

Yep that's it, we all want wide open borders, you finally figured it out and we would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for Jeff Sessions and Stephen Miller.

This I agree with, your side doesn't want completely open borders but rather want to keep the capability to threaten sending them back at any point if you cheap labor steps out of line. That's an important control tool for your side.

 

[fskimospy]

Yep that's it, we all want wide open borders, you finally figured it out and we would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for Jeff Sessions and Stephen Miller.

Can we let them vote on day 1 as well? Even better we'll let anyone vote who is thinking of coming to the US.

When you're ready to stop being retarded let us know.

It’s amusing how often they try the same argument where if you oppose their shitty bill then you must want Mexicans to annex America.

Conservatives are almost entirely to blame for America’s poor immigration system. If they stopped blocking real compromise legislation it would be better. Until they do that I don’t give a shit about their complaints about immigration. They brought it on themselves.

 

[K1052]

Looking like DHS won't refer parents with kids to DOJ. DOJ still intends to prosecute whoever is referred which is why they deny there is any change.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Edit: In unrelated news Trump just predicted a red wave election.

 

[Noah Abrams]

He actually has but at this point I don't see why he bothers since it's obvious progressives have zero appetite for stopping the supply of willing labor for the slavers; supply creates its own demand and bottomless supply of exploitable cheap labor priced below minimum wage is going to get exploited no matter how much you crack down on employers.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/15/feds-crack-down-on-employers-who-hire-illegals/

As moonbeam posed question in this or another thread, that should be ok according to conservative principles. If someone wants to work at 1 dollar an hour, should the government come in the way and say no you can’t? Does that not violate a person’s freedom?

 

[brycejones]

This I agree with, your side doesn't want completely open borders but rather want to keep the capability to threaten sending them back at any point if you cheap labor steps out of line. That's an important control tool for your side.

Who is arguing for that besides the made up liberal in your head?

I think just about every bill put forward by Democrats on this subject had a path to bring those who are in the country out of the shadows and legalize them so they can't be mistreated. Its the GOP who has shit a brick over "amnesty" and refused to move forward on any legislation that does that.

 

[fskimospy]

Looking like DHS won't refer parents with kids to DOJ. DOJ still intends to prosecute whoever is referred which is why they deny there is any change.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Do they realize how stupid they look when they do things like this?

Trump capitulated just like everyone knew he would. If you’re going to give in you should at least try and take credit for the good change.

 

[brycejones]

Looking like DHS won't refer parents with kids to DOJ. DOJ still intends to prosecute whoever is referred which is why they deny there is any change.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Edit: In unrelated news Trump just predicted a red wave election.

How long before the angry Elf has the FBI staking out ICE facilities to arrest parents if they are released?

 

[K1052]

House GOP is going to delay immigration votes for a day to get on the same page.

Something they haven't managed to accomplish on this topic...like ever.

Yep. 24 more hours should take care of it guys.

 

[glenn1]

As moonbeam posed question in this or another thread, that should be ok according to conservative principles. If someone wants to work at 1 dollar an hour, should the government come in the way and say no you can’t? Does that not violate a person’s freedom?

If progressives want to gut their own labor laws via ignoring them when it comes to illegals then I guess they're getting their wish. Since theoretically its against the law to hire an illegal the only reason why an employer would do so would be to save money, I guess the left thinks adding several more million illegals will somehow magically create jobs for them; jobs which the employer will both break the law to hire them for while simultaneously obeying minimum wage, OSHA, and other labor laws. Makes complete sense.

 

[K1052]

Do they realize how stupid they look when they do things like this?

I think so. I mean I can only assume they just agree collectively not to actually admit that they're incompetent.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

So change again possible. After the DOJ denied they were not going to charge parents with the misdemeanor.... they just drop charges against a bunch of parents charged with a misdemeanor.

http://cbsaustin.com/news/local/lawyer-feds-unexpectedly-drop-charges-against-17-immigrants

 

[jackstar7]

If progressives want to gut their own labor laws via ignoring them when it comes to illegals then I guess they're getting their wish. Since theoretically its against the law to hire an illegal the only reason why an employer would do so would be to save money, I guess the left thinks adding several more million illegals will somehow magically create jobs for them; jobs which the employer will both break the law to hire them for while simultaneously obeying minimum wage, OSHA, and other labor laws. Makes complete sense.

Hold up your hands palms away and point out your thumbs.

See the one that looks like an L shape? That's your Left.

You seem to be very confused.

 

[K1052]

Melania went to the border today to visit some child detention centers...it...it did come off real well I think.

https://splinternews.com/melania-trump-shows-how-much-she-cares-on-trip-to-meet-1827024283

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Somebody tell me this is a joke.

Someone PLEASE tell me the First lady didn't wear an "I really don't care, do you?" jacket on her way to meet with the immigrant children separated and being held.

 

[K1052]

Photo seems to be AP sourced so...yeaaah.

Though it would make a splendid title for a future unauthorized bio of the Trump family.

 

[vi edit]

Melania went to the border today to visit some child detention centers...it...it did come off real well I think.

https://splinternews.com/melania-trump-shows-how-much-she-cares-on-trip-to-meet-1827024283

Thoughts, prayers, and I really don't care.

Total. Tone. Deafness.