I know why you are fat!

[ManSnake]

What's wrong with that? Elevators are built for a purpose and that is to make our lives easier, be it going to the 2nd floor or the 200th floor!

What's wrong with overweight people again? They are just a few pounds heavier than you, it's all genetics!

 

[VictorLazlo]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: VictorLazlo

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: NetGuySC
So all of you are saying that you live a 100% healthy leftstyle,

I could post anything on here okay. so linkys do not carry much weight with me.

Hey and as far as biking I biked 1500 miles today .... you're just a part timer.


So all of you have a 100 % healthy lifestyle?

Actually, a couple years ago I saw the weight creeping on and started running. Then I took up weight lifting. My lifestyle is not 100% healthy, but it's healthy enough to saty in fairly good shape. But, like I said, I can sympathize with a lot of overweight people because I know what starvation yo-yo diets do. They end up making you fatter, and harder to lose the weight again. Not to mention the people who are genetically predisposed to obesity.

You are correct about that sir.

I don't agree with Salvador, though. Yes, SOME PEOPLE have special conditions, but there are far too many obese people in this country for everyone to use that excuse. It's not like 25% of the population suddenly developed a condition that only applies in this country and this generation. Most people are just lazy, and have wrecked their metabolism because they tried a bunch of fad diets BECAUSE THEY ARE LAZY.

Look at the % of obese people before 1980 and that's the % of people who are genetically predisposed or have some other condition. The % that grew after that are people who have gained weight with the recent change in leisure activities (active to inactive). That's less than half the people who are obese.

There were lazy people before 1980.

 

[TC2181]

Originally posted by: ManSnake
What's wrong with that? Elevators are built for a purpose and that is to make our lives easier, be it going to the 2nd floor or the 200th floor!

What's wrong with overweight people again? They are just a few pounds heavier than you, it's all genetics!

Because some people are so insecure with their own personal shortcomings, they have to rant and rave about a group of people that have some sort of disposition different from their own. Its called hatred.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: NetGuySC
So all of you are saying that you live a 100% healthy leftstyle,

I could post anything on here okay. so linkys do not carry much weight with me.

Hey and as far as biking I biked 1500 miles today .... you're just a part timer.

You biked 1500 miles today? And you were doing what...100mph?

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Mookow

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Mookow

Originally posted by: FallenHero
Wait wait wait...you are asking people to WORK to lose their weight? YOU MONSTER!

I know... asking people to take personal responsibility? I'm such a dick.

*waits for someone to come in, claim they are fat due to their genes, while they kill off the last two donuts left in the Krispy Kreme box*

Asking someone to lose weight through hard work is one thing. Making fun of them and insulting them is another.

A lot of this comes from people quite like myself. I used to be able to eat anything and everything and not gain a pound. I never understood how people could get fat and always thought it was all their fault.

It's not, in many cases. They can eat the same things you do, and do the same amount of activity you do, yet gain weight like crazy. It takes MORE for them to control their weight than it takes for you. And for many people, the weight creeps up on them and yo-yo diets have made it nearly impossible to lose the weight because their body has been thrown into starvation mode too many times.

Like I said before... Just wait until most of you are 35-45 years old and struggling with weight gain.

I was lucky. I saw the weight coming on early at 34 and did something about it that did not include yo-yo dieting, so it's fairly easy for me to lose fat. For others, it is not so easy.

Well my point is that acting like you arent fat and ignoring it doesnt do anything to solve the problem. Maybe calling someone fat-ass isnt nice, and it might not be what they want to hear, but the truth gets vicious when you corner it. And while it make take some people more work than others to stay trim, I am pretty sure I fall into that category. None of the men in my family are skinny. My goal isnt to get thin, just to get trim. If you expend more energy during the day than you take in via food and drink, you will lose weight. Maybe you screwed yourself by using a starvation diet. But the key phrase in that sentence is "you screwed yourself", IMO.

Myself, I'm delaying a $2/hour raise in a job that looks good on my resume to get a physical job this summer (90% I'll be going back to my old employer and installing fence, just waiting for him to call me back and confirm). This is not be feasible for everyone, I know. But the point is you have to make sacrifices somewhere to lose weight. Saying "dont call me fat" and being pissed that someone would tell you the truth to your face (albeit rudely) gets you no where, except to the vending machine for some comfort food. Admitting that you are, in fact, fat, and then doing something about it gets results.

Notice I never called it easy. Rolling over and resetting the alarm for later and not going running is very tempting to do at 5:15 AM. But every time I consider doing that I remember this:

There are always two choices. Two paths to take. One is easy. And its only reward is that it's easy.

My saying: "Cheating on your workout is like masturbation... you're only screwing yourself"

At any rate, "vicious truth" will drive most people into depression, thus making the matter worse. Your "vicious truth" becomes a vicious cycle of depression and obesity.

Yes, they did screw themselves in many cases. But constantly reminding them of that is counter-productive and only serves to demotivate them. If one feels worthless, one will act worthless.

 

[NetGuySC]

A fat tax would be good Idea?

If your BMI is above ideal weight then you pay more sales tax when you purchase an item. Your actual tax rate is proportional to you BMI.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: VictorLazlo

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: VictorLazlo

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: NetGuySC
So all of you are saying that you live a 100% healthy leftstyle,

I could post anything on here okay. so linkys do not carry much weight with me.

Hey and as far as biking I biked 1500 miles today .... you're just a part timer.


So all of you have a 100 % healthy lifestyle?

Actually, a couple years ago I saw the weight creeping on and started running. Then I took up weight lifting. My lifestyle is not 100% healthy, but it's healthy enough to saty in fairly good shape. But, like I said, I can sympathize with a lot of overweight people because I know what starvation yo-yo diets do. They end up making you fatter, and harder to lose the weight again. Not to mention the people who are genetically predisposed to obesity.

You are correct about that sir.

I don't agree with Salvador, though. Yes, SOME PEOPLE have special conditions, but there are far too many obese people in this country for everyone to use that excuse. It's not like 25% of the population suddenly developed a condition that only applies in this country and this generation. Most people are just lazy, and have wrecked their metabolism because they tried a bunch of fad diets BECAUSE THEY ARE LAZY.

Look at the % of obese people before 1980 and that's the % of people who are genetically predisposed or have some other condition. The % that grew after that are people who have gained weight with the recent change in leisure activities (active to inactive). That's less than half the people who are obese.

There were lazy people before 1980.

Yes, but prior to 1980 the rate of obesity changed very little. After 1980, it started climbing and skyrocketed in the 90s.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: NetGuySC
A fat tax would be good Idea?

If your BMI is above ideal weight then you pay more sales tax when you purchase an item. Your actual tax rate is proportional to you BMI.

Except that BMI is totally innaccurate in some cases.

You're just hitting them all out of the park today, aren't you?

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: NetGuySC
A fat tax would be good Idea?

If your BMI is above ideal weight then you pay more sales tax when you purchase an item. Your actual tax rate is proportional to you BMI.

This fscks bodybuilders.

Not only that, but it's a perfect example of why socialism is anathema to freedom.

 

[NetGuySC]

So BMI is inaccurate in some cases? like maybe your case?

What would be suitable to you Fautso?

Do you think fat people should pay more taxes due to future medical problem?

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: NetGuySC
What would be suitable to you Fautso?

Do you think fat people should pay more taxes due to future medical problem?

No. Like I said, this is why socialism is anathema to freedom.

 

[TC2181]

Originally posted by: NetGuySC
A fat tax would be good Idea?

If your BMI is above ideal weight then you pay more sales tax when you purchase an item. Your actual tax rate is proportional to you BMI.

Nazi.

 

[NetGuySC]

I agree Amused, but was just wondering what Fautsos and others opinions were.

Seems like everyone here is dumping on fat people .. singing " personal responsibility" then I thought that most here would love to tax fat people.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: TC2181

Originally posted by: NetGuySC
A fat tax would be good Idea?

If your BMI is above ideal weight then you pay more sales tax when you purchase an item. Your actual tax rate is proportional to you BMI.

Nazi.

That's not Nazism. That's Nanny-state socialism. They're only doing it "because they care."

 

[Salvador]

Ok all kidding aside, yeah there are a few people who have gland or whatever problems causing them to be overweight beyond their control. However, for most of the world it's just because we are lazy, or/and eat to deal with stress or other problems. For many people losing weight is even more difficult than people trying to quit smoking.

I agree. It's not easy. I was always a fit, athletic type and my world turned upside down when I screwed up my hip. It's still not right and probably has some arthritis in it. If you guys think it's so easy being overweight, I'd absolutely love to see you guys do it.

Yeah.. What about smoking. For all of you that smoke, have you ever tried quitting? Was it easy? All you guys have to do is stop smoking. An overweight person not only has to cut out their addiction (food is an addiction for some, just as smoking is), but they also have to try and exercise with that extra weight on their body. To top this all off, we've got aholes in society like some of you, that are so quick to judge people. These people just make the overweight people feel worse about themselves and make losing weight even tougher.

Sal

 

[TC2181]

Originally posted by: Salvador

Ok all kidding aside, yeah there are a few people who have gland or whatever problems causing them to be overweight beyond their control. However, for most of the world it's just because we are lazy, or/and eat to deal with stress or other problems. For many people losing weight is even more difficult than people trying to quit smoking.

I agree. It's not easy. I was always a fit, athletic type and my world turned upside down when I screwed up my hip. It's still not right and probably has some arthritis in it. If you guys think it's so easy being overweight, I'd absolutely love to see you guys do it.

Yeah.. What about smoking. For all of you that smoke, have you ever tried quitting? Was it easy? All you guys have to do is stop smoking. An overweight person not only has to cut out their addiction (food is an addiction for some, just as smoking is), but they also have to try and exercise with that extra weight on their body. To top this all off, we've got aholes in society like some of you, that are so quick to judge people. These people just make the overweight people feel worse about themselves and make losing weight even tougher.

BTW.. Do any of you insensitive people posting on this thread have thinning hair? Let me take this opportunity to tell you that I have all of my hair at nearly 38 years of age.

Sal

Pay no attention to the "holier than thou" crowd. We all know they want to make fun of people just to feel better about themselves.

 

[NetGuySC]

This thread remionds me of a elementary school playground. ... with fat kids picking at an obese kid.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: NetGuySC
So BMI is inaccurate in some cases? like maybe your case?

What would be suitable to you Fautso?

Do you think fat people should pay more taxes due to future medical problem?

No, I think they should quit thinking up excuses for being fat and spending money on the latest pill/diet/whatever. People are free to do whatever they want, including the freedom to murder the local buffet. I just don't want to hear any whining later about how hard it is to lose weight. It is hard; I know this. I gained a bunch of weight when I quit racing for a few years and it was a bitch to lose again even with the amount of riding I do. I don't have a problem with fat people, I have a problem with people in a constant state of denial.

 

[Salvador]

I never picked on anyone and I don't have a hell of a lot of tolerance for people that do. This is why we have things like Columbine and then everyone is dumbfounded when it happens.

Sal

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: sd

Originally posted by: Mwilding
So, I get my lunch and am waiting at the elevator for a minute or two. The elevator comes, I get on and hit the button for the 8th floor. As the door closes, I hear an urgent, "Hold that door!" Ever the polite person, I hit the open door button.

Fatty gets in and hits 2....

You wouldn't be so fat if you walked a flight of stairs once in a while!

Hey Loser! Don't judge a book by its cover. That person could have one of many medical conditions that would prevent them from using stairs. I'm a Physical Therapist and I tell my patients with certain knee problems to avoid stairs at all costs.

Overall, I know what your saying. Theres a lot of lazy people who need way more exercise than they're getting currently, but ya can't assume everyone is in that boat.

Were you in the elevator with me? Do you have any insight into the other person's health?

After playing rugby from age 16 to age 30, I have some ongoing knee and back issues. I know how they affect the way you carry yourself, your posture, your gait, etc... When someone screams for me to hold the elevator and strolls in like the world owes them something and then proudly hits the button for the floor above, they are a lazy ass. When they also have a few extra pounds, they are a fat lazy ass.

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: VictorLazlo

Originally posted by: AmusedLook at the % of obese people before 1980 and that's the % of people who are genetically predisposed or have some other condition. The % that grew after that are people who have gained weight with the recent change in leisure activities (active to inactive). That's less than half the people who are obese.

There were lazy people before 1980.

Yes, but prior to 1980 the rate of obesity changed very little. After 1980, it started climbing and skyrocketed in the 90s.

It might have changed very little, but that doesnt exactly mean it is a good baseline for genetic disposition for obesity. You can, however, use it to argue that the difference between them shows a minimum percentage of people for whom it is NOT genetic, unless you wish to argue that being fat is a trait that helps you reproduce more frequently than other people

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: TC2181

Originally posted by: ManSnake
What's wrong with that? Elevators are built for a purpose and that is to make our lives easier, be it going to the 2nd floor or the 200th floor!

What's wrong with overweight people again? They are just a few pounds heavier than you, it's all genetics!

Because some people are so insecure with their own personal shortcomings, they have to rant and rave about a group of people that have some sort of disposition different from their own. Its called hatred.

My problem is with lazy people more than it is fat people. I just like to throw in a little hyperbole to mix it up a little. Judging by the 80+ posts in 2 hours, it worked.

 

[Kyteland]

Originally posted by: Mookow

Originally posted by: FallenHero
Wait wait wait...you are asking people to WORK to lose their weight? YOU MONSTER!

I know... asking people to take personal responsibility? I'm such a dick.

*waits for someone to come in, claim they are fat due to their genes, while they kill off the last two donuts left in the Krispy Kreme box*

I *am* fat due to my genes.

First let me start off by posting a pic of myself. Not a particularly good one, but the only one I have online right now.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/kyteland/DSC_0080_small.jpg

My last name, Kyte, comes from a scottish word meaning belly. Everyone from that side of the family that I have ever met or seen pictures of has the telltale "Kyte" belly. There is a reason my family has had this name for generations. It is genetic. I'll gladly admit that it is more pronounced in some because they don't exercise, but we all have it reguardless.

I am 24 and not overweight, but I have plenty of fat on my belly. I eat healthy foods, run and work out every once in a while, but I have plenty of fat on my belly. I spend a lot of time hiking, but I have plenty of fat on my belly. I don't look fat, and have very little anywhere else on my body, but I have plenty of fat on my belly.

Do you get the picture now? I'm not obese. It's not affecting my health. It's not affecting my lifestyle. Yet there is little I can do about it. It is genetic.

 

[hevnsnt]

When I worked at Tivoli a guy in the urinal was so fat that he was out of breath from unzipping and trying to locate his weiner.

Sig Material?

 

[AEnigmaWI]

just to point out that it isn't really realistic to just "go jogging for 30 minutes" when you are 50-80 lbs overweight..

it makes exercise a much more complicated and delicate thing. Losing weight is not easy for many, many people. Diet is a great place to start tho.

I used ta weigh 198 when I was 18, because I quit running after I busted my knees up playing soccer.. now I weigh 170.. but it sure as heck wasn't easy to get rid of that weight. Not in any way easy. (5'9" medium heavy frame)

All you skinny a$$es out there that can eat more than 1800 calories a day and maintain your weight need not comment. Some of us have to exercise and maintain a near diet almost constantly not to be a "fat ass."