I know why you are fat!

[TitanDiddly]

Man, what's with some of the people on ATOT? They're like fat nazis.

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[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: Mwilding
So, I get my lunch and am waiting at the elevator for a minute or two. The elevator comes, I get on and hit the button for the 8th floor. As the door closes, I hear an urgent, "Hold that door!" Ever the polite person, I hit the open door button.

Fatty gets in and hits 2....

You wouldn't be so fat if you walked a flight of stairs once in a while!

haha, im fat because i eat too much! sucker!

 

All you people that diss on fatties, I hope you break your leg or back or something and can't continue your exercise routines and get really fat.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: SampSon
All you people that diss on fatties, I hope you break your leg or back or something and can't continue your exercise routines and get really fat.

assuming one doesn't have the sense to cut back on caloric intake when incapacitated right? or is there no choice but to stuff ones trap when in a wheel chair?

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: loki8481
I don't understand why people can't just live and let live. I mean, I can't stand smokers. But I work with a bunch of smokers, and I'd never make fun of it ("haha! you're giving yourself cancer! stupid weakling, can't control a nicotine addiction!" or something).

their body, their choice. the fact that they smoke isn't going to affect me in any major way; same thing with obesity. eat whatever the fvck you want. it's not my place to play food police with you just because I may not like the way you look.

I tend to think it's a personal choice, though. that whole genetics line is bs -- you may be genetically predispositioned towards storing fat a certain way, but you can still counter your genetic disposition. But if you choose to be fat --- meh. your life, not mine. I wouldn't treat someone differently because of it.

that'd be fine if either of those characteristics resulted in higher health insurance premiums for those that do and lower ones for those that don't.

 

[0roo0roo]

I tend to think it's a personal choice, though. that whole genetics line is bs -- you may be genetically predispositioned towards storing fat a certain way, but you can still counter your genetic disposition. But if you choose to be fat --- meh. your life, not mine. I wouldn't treat someone differently because of it.

well its bs because obesity doesn't double in 20 years because of genetics

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: loki8481
I don't understand why people can't just live and let live. I mean, I can't stand smokers. But I work with a bunch of smokers, and I'd never make fun of it ("haha! you're giving yourself cancer! stupid weakling, can't control a nicotine addiction!" or something).

their body, their choice. the fact that they smoke isn't going to affect me in any major way; same thing with obesity. eat whatever the fvck you want. it's not my place to play food police with you just because I may not like the way you look.

I tend to think it's a personal choice, though. that whole genetics line is bs -- you may be genetically predispositioned towards storing fat a certain way, but you can still counter your genetic disposition. But if you choose to be fat --- meh. your life, not mine. I wouldn't treat someone differently because of it.

that'd be fine if either of those characteristics resulted in higher health insurance premiums for those that do and lower ones for those that don't.

Premiums are already higher for high risk patients. Private industry CAN and DOES discriminate according to risk factors such as smoking, and pre-existing conditions such as obesity. It's government nanny-state programs that cannot, and do not discriminate, and thus we are all forced to suffer under nanny-state laws.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

I tend to think it's a personal choice, though. that whole genetics line is bs -- you may be genetically predispositioned towards storing fat a certain way, but you can still counter your genetic disposition. But if you choose to be fat --- meh. your life, not mine. I wouldn't treat someone differently because of it.

well its bs because obesity doesn't double in 20 years because of genetics

And yet, many people living the exact same lifestyle did not end up obese.

There are obviously differing levels of genetic propensity for obesity. For some, the decline in leisure activities over the last 20 years was enough to send them into obesity. For others, it was not.

 

[illustri]

leptin
do a pubmed search
adipose tissue is an endocrine gland => fat makes you fatter

so THIS is a genetically predisposition to obesity, case in point: a 4 year old boy weighed some 300lbs because of his inability to produce leptin which regulates (READ prevents) fat storage. Upon a leptin treatment he is now 14 or so weighting ~100lbs, a normal, healthy adolescent

so heres all the miracle drug commercials "just take leptin! you'll lose 20 or more lbs!!"
ironically most overweight individuals HAVE PLENTY OF endogenous leptin, the above described case affects only a small percentage (<10%) of obese individuals, the rest... who knows - research is ongoing, perhaps faulty receptors, perhaps self control...

take home message is: no matter how you are born, it is still your responsibilty to self improve, be it from breakthroughs in science, or in lieu of that, serious lifestyle change - i think everyone understands this applies for everything in life

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: AIWGuru

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: NetGuySC
Many people here have 10,000+ posts and are making fun of fat people Geez you would not happen to be hiding behind a computer acting like you are perfectly fit are you?


Mwildthing posts your pic Mr. 12,000+ posts and is in perfect health.

Fuasto , you also Mr. 16,000 posts

Minendo, 24,000+ posts .....

Actually, I find it hard to belive that you three making rude comments are not lard asses . You apparently have trouble backing away from the computer, and being that you spend so much time on the computer and not exercising, I am willing to bet that your keyboard resemble a lunch buffet with all the food crumbs in it, from you stuffin your face for you're too damn lazy to back your collective lard asses from the computer to eat a healthy meal.

Me thinks it is a safe bet that you three are fat. But you know I could care less if you life is shortened for being fat, for wheather you die right now as your read this post or if you die 30 years from now ... your life has no impact on mine .. so be fat, be happy and die whenever you want .... it doesn't matter.

Bad news bud. I race bikes in my spare time. I ride an average of 200-300 miles per week, not including my daily 16-mile round-trip mountain bike commute to work. Trust me, I practice what I preach.

You shouldn't.
Riding bike's pinches the blood vessel to your penis and causes erectile disfunction.

This is largely untrue. If your twig/berries are going numb during a ride, your bike isn't properly fitted to you. If anything, being a cyclist will make you better in bed thanks to gains in aerobic capacity.

Besides, they have about a zillion different kinds of anatomically designed saddles these days specifically made to relieve the pressure you're talking about.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: hevnsnt

I can see my body trimming up, but I can't freaking break the 196lb.. It is freaking driving me nuts. So anyway I guess my point is, that for you overweight people (myself included) you need to realize that you are overweight, and make a decsion to change it.

Now, someone who knows, help me break that freaking wall.

I can't seem to break 205 without losing huge muscle mass.

I ate 500 calories per day and exercised 40 minutes per day for 2 weeks and I stayed at 205. I'm not really going to bother to try it anymore.

 

[dfi]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: hevnsnt

I can see my body trimming up, but I can't freaking break the 196lb.. It is freaking driving me nuts. So anyway I guess my point is, that for you overweight people (myself included) you need to realize that you are overweight, and make a decsion to change it.

Now, someone who knows, help me break that freaking wall.

I can't seem to break 205 without losing huge muscle mass.

I ate 500 calories per day and exercised 40 minutes per day for 2 weeks and I stayed at 205. I'm not really going to bother to try it anymore.

Maybe try not eating so little? I think the general consensus is that the faster you try to lose weight, the more muscle you are going to lose. Record your average daily calories over a week. Now, decrease that by a few hundred. Try including oatmeal into a daily meal; it really fills you up fast. Add some high intensity cardio, maybe 3x a week? 15 minutes, including a 5 min warmup, then 1 min of MAX effort, 1 min of easy effort, repeat.

If after a month of this you still don't lose weight, well then that really sucks.

dfi

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

I tend to think it's a personal choice, though. that whole genetics line is bs -- you may be genetically predispositioned towards storing fat a certain way, but you can still counter your genetic disposition. But if you choose to be fat --- meh. your life, not mine. I wouldn't treat someone differently because of it.

well its bs because obesity doesn't double in 20 years because of genetics

And yet, many people living the exact same lifestyle did not end up obese.

There are obviously differing levels of genetic propensity for obesity. For some, the decline in leisure activities over the last 20 years was enough to send them into obesity. For others, it was not.

hard to have the same lifestyle, foods a lot cheaper, and far more variety today then even 20 years ago. in part thanks to the explosion of cheap sweetener(nonfructose corn syrup). and silly "fat free" snacks that have the same number of calories

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: BigPoppa
Making fun of overweight people isn't exactly condusive to encouraging us to lose weight.

Then what exactly is conducive to making you lose weight?

 

[sxr7171]

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: Mookow

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: Mookow
So, at a guess, how much does she weigh?

Hmm...maybe 250 or so, and she's 5'2" at the most.

Just how you like 'em, huh?


Seriously, working at the CDC, you think she would have some idea that being a fatass = not good. And that moving 100' shouldnt put you out of breath unless it is near vertical, or you are sprinting. Never mind needing to stop to catch your breath...

Apparently, working for the CDC exempts you from following any of our health guidlines. Hell, even the cafeteria served fried chicken livers with gravy every Monday as recently as a year ago. People here are hardly what one might call "physical specimens" for the most part.

What do you expect in Georgia?

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

I tend to think it's a personal choice, though. that whole genetics line is bs -- you may be genetically predispositioned towards storing fat a certain way, but you can still counter your genetic disposition. But if you choose to be fat --- meh. your life, not mine. I wouldn't treat someone differently because of it.

well its bs because obesity doesn't double in 20 years because of genetics

And yet, many people living the exact same lifestyle did not end up obese.

There are obviously differing levels of genetic propensity for obesity. For some, the decline in leisure activities over the last 20 years was enough to send them into obesity. For others, it was not.

hard to have the same lifestyle, foods a lot cheaper, and far more variety today then even 20 years ago. in part thanks to the explosion of cheap sweetener(nonfructose corn syrup). and silly "fat free" snacks that have the same number of calories

I'm talking about two people having the same lifestyle, at the same time, yet one ends up fat and the other does not.

 

[StageLeft]

People don't move except to go to the fridge. People would rather sit in a car for 90 seconds than drive 5 spots further and walk that much extra distance to the door at Walmart. People eat more than they did 20 years ago. People don't make the connection between eating and weight gain. People...are lazy...if you're fat it's your own fault. You've failed yourself. Not a diet, and not me or your doctor for not prescribing you the right meds. It's your fault. You have power to change it. You are still fat because you don't care enough, and it's that simple. Or, you're just too stupid to realize that excercise and diet result in weight loss. One way or the other you've failed yourself and continue to do so.

 

[ohtwell]

People are so fat today because they eat more and exercise less. It's as easy as that.


: ) Amanda

 

[Ranger X]

Originally posted by: SampSon
All you people that diss on fatties, I hope you break your leg or back or something and can't continue your exercise routines and get really fat.

I think this thread is not targetting disabled individuals that cannot exercise regularly. How many of those people do you see and how many physically healthy beings do you see in this world? I see WAY more obesity in everyday people who function and live their lives like you and I.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: dfi

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: hevnsnt

I can see my body trimming up, but I can't freaking break the 196lb.. It is freaking driving me nuts. So anyway I guess my point is, that for you overweight people (myself included) you need to realize that you are overweight, and make a decsion to change it.

Now, someone who knows, help me break that freaking wall.

I can't seem to break 205 without losing huge muscle mass.

I ate 500 calories per day and exercised 40 minutes per day for 2 weeks and I stayed at 205. I'm not really going to bother to try it anymore.

Maybe try not eating so little? I think the general consensus is that the faster you try to lose weight, the more muscle you are going to lose. Record your average daily calories over a week. Now, decrease that by a few hundred. Try including oatmeal into a daily meal; it really fills you up fast. Add some high intensity cardio, maybe 3x a week? 15 minutes, including a 5 min warmup, then 1 min of MAX effort, 1 min of easy effort, repeat.

If after a month of this you still don't lose weight, well then that really sucks.

dfi

Agreed. Starving yourself is absolutely not the way to go as it puts your body in panic mode and it starts pulling calories out whereever they can be found. I'm working off my winter weight right now at a steady 1-2 lbs per week and not really doing anything particularly drastic. I ride my bike as much as I can, don't gorge myself at meals, eat mostly very healthy unprocessed food (wife and I are both decent chefs), but I'm not a freak about it. For example, dinner last night was grilled chicken salad with wild rice, leftover vietnamese-style shrimp curry, a little crusty bread and a glass of red wine.

My advice would be to track your caloric intake for a week or so (as in: write down everything that goes in your mouth) and then cut out the most obvious culprits in terms of empty calories.

 

[hevnsnt]

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: dfi

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: hevnsnt

I can see my body trimming up, but I can't freaking break the 196lb.. It is freaking driving me nuts. So anyway I guess my point is, that for you overweight people (myself included) you need to realize that you are overweight, and make a decsion to change it.

Now, someone who knows, help me break that freaking wall.

I can't seem to break 205 without losing huge muscle mass.

I ate 500 calories per day and exercised 40 minutes per day for 2 weeks and I stayed at 205. I'm not really going to bother to try it anymore.

Maybe try not eating so little? I think the general consensus is that the faster you try to lose weight, the more muscle you are going to lose. Record your average daily calories over a week. Now, decrease that by a few hundred. Try including oatmeal into a daily meal; it really fills you up fast. Add some high intensity cardio, maybe 3x a week? 15 minutes, including a 5 min warmup, then 1 min of MAX effort, 1 min of easy effort, repeat.

If after a month of this you still don't lose weight, well then that really sucks.

dfi

Agreed. Starving yourself is absolutely not the way to go as it puts your body in panic mode and it starts pulling calories out whereever they can be found. I'm working off my winter weight right now at a steady 1-2 lbs per week and not really doing anything particularly drastic. I ride my bike as much as I can, don't gorge myself at meals, eat mostly very healthy unprocessed food (wife and I are both decent chefs), but I'm not a freak about it. For example, dinner last night was grilled chicken salad with wild rice, leftover vietnamese-style shrimp curry, a little crusty bread and a glass of red wine.

My advice would be to track your caloric intake for a week or so (as in: write down everything that goes in your mouth) and then cut out the most obvious culprits in terms of empty calories.

Which is exactly what I do....

 

[Valhalla1]

I feel so guilty waiting for the elevator to haul my ass up to the 3rd floor =/

but maybe 1/3 of the time i use the stairs, and always use the stairs going down.

I was a trim solid 230 in high school.. now I weigh the same but I'm much bigger: lost all my all-district football lineman muscle and packed it on as fat

the only thing that really bothers me though, is my neck and face fat, its like thats where it all goes

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: sxr7171

Originally posted by: BigPoppa
Making fun of overweight people isn't exactly condusive to encouraging us to lose weight.

Then what exactly is conducive to making you lose weight?

I still like the suggestion a member made awhile back about putting weight scales into fast food places that show your weight in bright flashing numbers above you.

 

[maziwanka]

Originally posted by: Mwilding
Cmon, poeple: Up one, down two

Is that so hard!?!?!?

is that the rule? i didnt know that...

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: Mookow

Originally posted by: hevnsnt
I thought that muscle weights more than fat was just a wives tale and not true.

It is more dense, but that isnt the point (at least not by itself). If you continue to weigh the same, but you are seeing visible results... you are getting results.

yip, when i completed basic training i gained 10 pounds but lost 6 inches around my waist.