I hate DST

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sdifox

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Does Canada just copy the states on this issue? Why should somebody in Canada care about Bush and DST? Even without standard time it's going to be dark up there in the winter.

You are our biggest trade partner. Different time would make it chaotic.
 

Imp

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Does Canada just copy the states on this issue? Why should somebody in Canada care about Bush and DST? Even without standard time it's going to be dark up there in the winter.

We copied you because we essentially have to -- but it doesn't make that big a difference to follow or not so may as well.

Something about having 9x the population, largest trading partner, sharing a huge border, and only other major English speaking western country on the continent.
 

Imp

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Why would it? New York deals with California without issue, and they're never on the same time.

Ya, but New York is consistently 3 hours ahead of California year round.

If Canada didn't follow, Toronto would be 1 hour ahead/back of New York for like October and March but same every other month of the year. A huge chunk of our TV comes from the US -- Canadian channels buy the rights to US shows -- and shows would be 8 eastern, 7 central except in October and March.
 

Ken g6

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ITT: DST dissed. :D

I only hate the start of DST. D:
 

foghorn67

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I love it in So Cal. It gets dark to early other wise. I can see how it doesn't appeal to folks up north.
 

brianmanahan

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But as you know, Ohio winters are more often gray than sunny. Especially, I think, for y'all in the Cleveland region. Not jealous of that lake effect whatsoever!

yeah, i generally like it here and everyone i know is here, but when i'm retired i might do a 6-months-here-6-months-in-FL-or-AZ thing.

my aunt does it and loves it because she can hang out with family and friends half the year (and not have 120 degree temps), but then gets nice warm winters too. and has a few months to get away from everybody, haha.

P.S. i didn't know columbus was far enough south to start saying y'all, LOL.
 
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brianmanahan

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Ya, but New York is consistently 3 hours ahead of California year round.

If Canada didn't follow, Toronto would be 1 hour ahead/back of New York for like October and March but same every other month of the year. A huge chunk of our TV comes from the US -- Canadian channels buy the rights to US shows -- and shows would be 8 eastern, 7 central except in October and March.

i live about 10 miles from a bunch of amish people and they don't follow DST.

so starting tomorrow they'll all be driving the buggies to work an hour later.
 

sdifox

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I would have preferred they ditch dst but they didnt. Fuck you Bush and fuck you Harper.
 
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brianmanahan

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We would need a bunch of new timezones and code everything to use them.

i have always wanted timezones to be gradient. so as you move your time changes. driving east to the store? it just got like 5 seconds later.
 

Red Squirrel

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Thing is it makes zero difference. In winter it's dark when you get up and dark when you get home from work, regardless of how you shift clocks around. In summer it's bright in the morning and bright in the evening, again, does not matter how much you shift the clocks.

We should just keep it on winter time and leave it. The only thing DST does is make it so you have to get up an hour earlier. Your body does not care what the clock says, it only cares about it's own internal clock. Getting up at 7 is like getting up at 6, for example.

The fact that it's light out at like 7am even now that it's not summer yet does help slightly alleviate that though. Easier to get out of bed when it's light out. I love it when sun is up till 10pm and comes back at like 3am though. That does not last long but it's always surreal to see when you're used to winter where it's pitch black till 8am and before 5pm.

DST is like cutting a foot off a 2x4 and gluing it to the other end to make the 2x4 longer.
 
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13Gigatons

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I'm indifferent about whether or not we stick to DST indefinitely, but the idea of jumping forward or backward an hour on a 2-a-year basis is just indescribably idiotic and serves zero point whatsoever unless politicians are just a bunch of trolls.

That was the point I was trying to make. Just pick a time and stick too it.
 
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Are you guys really that retarded that you can't adjust to an hour time difference? Besides I would take an hour extra daylight in the evening than when I'm driving to work. I guess if you're a retiree that goes to bed at 8pm, it would be annoying.


Love DST. Keep DST forever... Fuck this poverty dark by 4pm shit we have to endure from November through February.

What the hell is the point of 4-ish months of early darkness?

Best thing Bush did was extend DST.

This.
 

cubby1223

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I'm indifferent about whether or not we stick to DST indefinitely, but the idea of jumping forward or backward an hour on a 2-a-year basis is just indescribably idiotic and serves zero point whatsoever unless politicians are just a bunch of trolls.

Some of us enjoy being outside when it is daylight. I totally understand the hatred of time changes for basement dwellers who have no desire to go out and experience the world. Luckily those types aren't the decision makers ;)
 

sdifox

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Are you guys really that retarded that you can't adjust to an hour time difference? Besides I would take an hour extra daylight in the evening than when I'm driving to work. I guess if you're a retiree that goes to bed at 8pm, it would be annoying.




This.

It's fucking annoying to have to readjust my bio clock twice a year for no good reason.
 

Imp

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Something about DST being some corporatist pig idea... People like to go out shopping more when it's still bright after work. Hell yeah, I do, and how is that a bad thing.
 

destrekor

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Are you guys really that retarded that you can't adjust to an hour time difference? Besides I would take an hour extra daylight in the evening than when I'm driving to work. I guess if you're a retiree that goes to bed at 8pm, it would be annoying.




This.

To be fair, while I support DST, it's not fair to blame a failure to adjust on those people who struggle with it at first. The circadian rhythm is a very touchy thing, and problems with that internal clock have roots in a lot of mental health disorders. I've struggled with circadian rhythm issues, and it isn't always simply a failure to adapt, at least not at the conscious level.
 

Leros

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Soo...instead of sleeping in until 10 am...I'll be sleeping in until 11 am?

Damn...I just don't see a downside to that...well...except I'll lose an hour of thinking about things I ought to be doing...if it would stop fucking raining here.

(I love being retired...no fucking schedule!)

But what if you sleep through The Price is Right?!